DEFENSE?

60sdog

Senior
Oct 9, 2010
757
513
93
Defense last night was the worst it has been all year but gotta say it's good to be able to grind and win anyway (thanks to Dak). We made Missouri look like a pretty good offensive team. Guess the defense just had a down game, probably just flat for whatever reason. You can always tell when your defense is flat because of all the missed tackles, plus at times, they just looked a step slow--no energy. Last night, we whiffed on a bunch, the most I've seen since the Egg Bowl last year.
 

TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
10,500
2,503
113
Did you watch the game last night? Take out their 72yd fluke run when forward progress would probably be stopped the majority of the time and they were right around their offensive averages.

We had 3 int I think and over 10 TFL and sacked their QB like 5x. I'm not sure what game you were watching. They had some gashes on us, but they are SEC quality players.

No idea what game you watched. I thought the D looked salty.

Oh yea, MIZZ scores 12.5ppg. We held them to 13. O yeah they had the ball 1st and goal at the 2. No TD. Before the penalty that had it first and goal at the 10 and had to get a penalty to get to the 2yd line. Then a sack and QB hurry later, pass deflection on 4th down.

You must have been drunk last night.
 

60sdog

Senior
Oct 9, 2010
757
513
93
Did you watch the game last night? Take out their 72yd fluke run when forward progress would probably be stopped the majority of the time and they were right around their offensive averages.

We had 3 int I think and over 10 TFL and sacked their QB like 5x. I'm not sure what game you were watching. They had some gashes on us, but they are SEC quality players.

No idea what game you watched. I thought the D looked salty.

Oh yea, MIZZ scores 12.5ppg. We held them to 13. O yeah they had the ball 1st and goal at the 2. No TD. Before the penalty that had it first and goal at the 10 and had to get a penalty to get to the 2yd line. Then a sack and QB hurry later, pass deflection on 4th down.

You must have been drunk last night.



Not sure you weren't doing the drinking last night. Missouri had been averaging 113 yds. rushing per game; last night they got 215. Had been averaging 282 yds. per game total; last night they got 332. Hadn't scored a TD in 13 quarters but got one on us in the 2ns quarter (all in a torrential deluge). Yeah, I know they had a 72 yard run, but that was due to our missing about 6 tackles on the run--exactly my point.

I make valid points. Why don't you attempt to have a mature approach, instead of trying to turn what could be a civil discussion into a food fight?
 

TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
10,500
2,503
113
Take out the 72 yards from a walk on half back and they are right there. OH MY GOSH THEY SCORED 1 TD! OUR DEFENSE IS AWFUL!


I had zero alcoholic beverages last night btw. I know I'm a loser and immature.
 

MrKotter

Senior
Aug 22, 2012
923
610
93
Not sure you weren't doing the drinking last night. Missouri had been averaging 113 yds. rushing per game; last night they got 215. Had been averaging 282 yds. per game total; last night they got 332. Hadn't scored a TD in 13 quarters but got one on us in the 2ns quarter (all in a torrential deluge). Yeah, I know they had a 72 yard run, but that was due to our missing about 6 tackles on the run--exactly my point.

I make valid points. Why don't you attempt to have a mature approach, instead of trying to turn what could be a civil discussion into a food fight?

In your mind only do you make valid points. They certainly are not rational nor well thought out.
 

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,782
24,668
113
Our rushing D hasn't exactly been out of this world all year. We're giving up over 200/game to SEC teams.

Having said that, I can live with it. We haven't played the read option very well this year. Last night included.
 

boatsandhoes

Junior
Sep 6, 2012
2,151
208
63
i'm not to worried about the stats. Sometimes you play down to down teams. The game plan to stop Bama will be vastly different. If we judged defense on how we played USM then we'd have all given up on them.

what bothers me more than anything is that our tackling is horrid. has been all year. You don't wrap up henry, and it's going to be a long day.
 

KurtRambis4

Redshirt
Aug 30, 2006
15,926
0
36
That wasn't

even CLOSE to our D's worst game last night. If a 17ing monsoon doesn't roll through for about 20 mins, we shut those 17s out.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

All-Conference
May 28, 2007
18,208
4,353
113
It was a Thursday night away game played in pouring rain on artificial turf. I'm really not pissed off at our D allowing 13 points, especially when 3 of them came on a blocked punt. The only bad plays were when we allowed a long gain to set up their first FG, their TD drive, and the 70 yard gain at the end.
 

yee dawgy

Redshirt
Mar 3, 2008
292
0
16
I thought they played pretty good considering the circumstances.
We played a team we're "expected" to beat on the road in a monsoon. During the heaviest rain we lost focus and gave up the one sustained drive in the 2nd qtr where they ran the ball down our throats and the fluke 72 yard run late n the game. Outside of that, we pretty much skull drug their arses.
 

kired

All-Conference
Aug 22, 2008
7,187
2,632
113
I know what you mean by coming out flat. Chris Jones had a terrible night --- I mean, sure he had like 15 QB hurries, but if he strained a little more he'd have sacked the QB 5 times himself. We can't have that kind of laziness**
 

ShrubDog

Redshirt
Apr 13, 2008
5,307
3
38
Our D locks down everyone in the second halves. I wouldn't look at the yards on the stat sheet to closely. Look at the box score and final score.

We have only given up 5 TD's in the second half this year.
 
Last edited:

Drebin

Heisman
Aug 22, 2012
22,969
28,694
113
Their horrid passing attack is what led to success in their run game. I know that sounds crazy, but Diaz was blitzing on most plays last night - which resulted in a high number of negative plays. Most of their decent runs came when they hit a seam and we didn't have a linebacker there.
 

Fogdog

Redshirt
Oct 6, 2014
572
0
0
Ding, ding, ding, ding....

I know what you mean by coming out flat. Chris Jones had a terrible night --- I mean, sure he had like 15 QB hurries, but if he strained a little more he'd have sacked the QB 5 times himself. We can't have that kind of laziness**

Dumb post of the day award. Congratulations!! 15 QB hurries = "terrible night". Right, well done!!
 

Chesusdog

All-American
May 2, 2006
5,203
5,690
113
Graham plays soft, ****** coverage

He gives up the completion every time. The rest of the team looked good though.
 

rem101

Sophomore
Jan 22, 2008
3,202
187
63
Then flails his arms around looking frustrated when they complete an 8 yard out

in front of him.
 

Dawg Jurist

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2012
429
0
16
 

FlotownDawg

All-American
Aug 30, 2012
7,385
8,462
113
Graham was terrible. I think every pass they completed other than a screen pass was to the receiver he was supposed to be covering. Looked like Kivon got in his face at one point about it.
 

kired

All-Conference
Aug 22, 2008
7,187
2,632
113
You didn't think I was being serious did you? That was the best game of his career. If Jones plays 3 more games like that, there is a 0% chance he'll come back for his senior year. I'm hoping he kind of does like Cox and starts peaking here at the end of the year. If you remember in 2011, Cox was like a different player during the second half of the year. Maybe this was Jones breakout game we've been waiting for.

I thought most of the defense looked great. We were being extra aggressive against a QB that has struggled, so you've got to expect them to bust a few plays every now & then. They really only put together one good drive (minus the 72 yard run) and it seems like I remember us having a lot of the second team in for most of that drive.
 

Bane.sixpack

Redshirt
Sep 2, 2015
233
0
0
Agree, cannot say that I agree with Mullinator on moving him to defense! Shumpert is the one who should mvoe!
 

thekimmer

All-Conference
Aug 30, 2012
8,945
3,171
113
The defense overall did OK. There were some issue...

Defense last night was the worst it has been all year but gotta say it's good to be able to grind and win anyway (thanks to Dak). We made Missouri look like a pretty good offensive team. Guess the defense just had a down game, probably just flat for whatever reason. You can always tell when your defense is flat because of all the missed tackles, plus at times, they just looked a step slow--no energy. Last night, we whiffed on a bunch, the most I've seen since the Egg Bowl last year.

They looked horrible on that one TD drive and they seem to struggle with wrapping up tackles that led to missed opportunities and a very long run from inside the 5. On the other hand, they had I don't know how many sacks and tackles for loss plus 2 INTs. I did wince a bit when thinking about having to stop Henry when that mizzou walk-on was gashing our d line.
 
Last edited:

TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
10,500
2,503
113
He played poorly but we were also in conservative soft coverage. He still needs to play harder. I think he'll be fine at DB. It's only his first year there. Let's cut him some slack. He's played decent at times. If he can get his hands on an INT, watch out.
 

LittleBigDog

Junior
Aug 25, 2012
353
217
43
I have to say that Shump seemed to have a burst last night that I haven't seen this year. Is it possible he hasn't been healthy?
 

Chesusdog

All-American
May 2, 2006
5,203
5,690
113
He looks lost out there in coverage

I saw one really good play by him this year where on a corner blitz he hit the opposing qb on a corner blitz so hard and I thought he broke the guy's back. It was either Troy or NW State.
 

thf24

Redshirt
Jan 28, 2011
1,334
3
38
You realize rain works in favor of running the ball, not against it, right?
 
Maroon and White

Latest

  1. 01 Maroon and White Basketball Xavier 81-63 Mississippi State: Distance shooting hurts Bulldogs in Greenbrier defeat
  2. 02 Maroon and White Football Kickoff Time Change: Mississippi State vs. Auburn
  3. 03 Maroon and White Football Mississippi State Keys to Victory vs. Auburn
  4. 04 Rivals Basketball Recruiting 4-star center Chris Brown commits to Mississippi State
  5. 05 Maroon and White Football Mississippi State Week 11 Preview: Auburn Q and A