Math is hard for Jimmy

far_away_fan

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Did anyone else notice Jimmy’s math when Oscar was shooting free throws?
Oscar comes in shooting 70, 71%. If he can get that number up to 74, 75%, he’d score another three or four points per game because he gets fouled a lot.
Being as generous as possible to Jimmy, with a jump from 70% to 75%, it require 60 attempts per game for a player to score an extra 3 points per game.
At his current rate of attempts per game, a jump of 5% in his free throw shooting would actually result in only 0.23 additional points per game.

I get it that analysts aren’t expected to be masters of sports analytics or anything, but he should be embarrassed to be that bad at basic arithmetic in such a public forum.
 

Aike

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Did anyone else notice Jimmy’s math when Oscar was shooting free throws?

Being as generous as possible to Jimmy, with a jump from 70% to 75%, it require 60 attempts per game for a player to score an extra 3 points per game.
At his current rate of attempts per game, a jump of 5% in his free throw shooting would actually result in only 0.23 additional points per game.

I get it that analysts aren’t expected to be masters of sports analytics or anything, but he should be embarrassed to be that bad at basic arithmetic in such a public forum.
Yeah I heard that and it drove me crazy.
 

UK90

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Jimmy has never struck me as the sharpest tool in the shed …and that’s putting it mildly.

But he seems like a nice guy who views his CBB world through pro-UK/SEC goggles. That earns his blunders some forgiveness points from me.
 
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Sparky285

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Did anyone else notice Jimmy’s math when Oscar was shooting free throws?

Being as generous as possible to Jimmy, with a jump from 70% to 75%, it require 60 attempts per game for a player to score an extra 3 points per game.
At his current rate of attempts per game, a jump of 5% in his free throw shooting would actually result in only 0.23 additional points per game.

I get it that analysts aren’t expected to be masters of sports analytics or anything, but he should be embarrassed to be that bad at basic arithmetic in such a public forum.
I mean pardon Jimmy for not doing the calculus before he said something.

His sentiment was true even if his math was wrong, if Oscar shoots better he will score more points. He’s correct in that statement. It’s also a Frank Caliendo Madden impression level of a statement on par with, “now this is a guy, when he puts his glasses on, he can see better”
 

gwjenning

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Did anyone else notice Jimmy’s math when Oscar was shooting free throws?

Being as generous as possible to Jimmy, with a jump from 70% to 75%, it require 60 attempts per game for a player to score an extra 3 points per game.
At his current rate of attempts per game, a jump of 5% in his free throw shooting would actually result in only 0.23 additional points per game.

I get it that analysts aren’t expected to be masters of sports analytics or anything, but he should be embarrassed to be that bad at basic arithmetic in such a public forum.
I believe he meant from here on out Oscar needs to shoot it at a 75% clip. We hear this about shooting all the time. So and do player is shooting the 3 at such and such percentage since SEC play began or over the past x amount of games.
Also hear such and such player shoots FT’s at blank percentage the last 2 minutes of the game.
I give Dykes a pass on this one.
 

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Did anyone else notice Jimmy’s math when Oscar was shooting free throws?

Being as generous as possible to Jimmy, with a jump from 70% to 75%, it require 60 attempts per game for a player to score an extra 3 points per game.
At his current rate of attempts per game, a jump of 5% in his free throw shooting would actually result in only 0.23 additional points per game.

I get it that analysts aren’t expected to be masters of sports analytics or anything, but he should be embarrassed to be that bad at basic arithmetic in such a public forum.
He’s a color commentator who is expected to the cast the game play by play. That is a lot of math to do while casting a division 1 game for the average human. But in all fairness, you are right. He got the math wrong.

I’m kinda partial to Jimmy. He’s not the best color commentator in the game, but he’s one of the few who openly backs UK on a consistent basis.
 
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Did anyone else notice Jimmy’s math when Oscar was shooting free throws?

Being as generous as possible to Jimmy, with a jump from 70% to 75%, it require 60 attempts per game for a player to score an extra 3 points per game.
At his current rate of attempts per game, a jump of 5% in his free throw shooting would actually result in only 0.23 additional points per game.

I get it that analysts aren’t expected to be masters of sports analytics or anything, but he should be embarrassed to be that bad at basic arithmetic in such a public forum.
I think he's trying to say is based on O's current FT attempts 106 and FTM 74....69.8% FT%, if the FTM were increased during the game to bring his overall FT% up to 75% that'd result in 3-5 additional PPG.

Presuming the 106 FTA remains and IF O had made 79 (+5 over his currnt FTM) of those he'd be shooting at 75% and scoring about 5 points more per game.
 

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He is one of the few color commentators that I enjoy at ESPN.

Crazy math/stats are everywhere, like this from one of my favorite books of all time:

“I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve”
 

tls

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I think he's trying to say is based on O's current FT attempts 106 and FTM 74....69.8% FT%, if the FTM were increased during the game to bring his overall FT% up to 75% that'd result in 3-5 additional PPG.

Presuming the 106 FTA remains and IF O had made 79 (+5 over his currnt FTM) of those he'd be shooting at 75% and scoring about 5 points more per game.
5 more points total not per game.
 

bballcat4

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Did I miss “Jimmy’s Jet” last night? I didn’t see it.

My wife saw Jimmy was calling the game and immediately said before tipoff, “Whoever controls the nail controls the game!”
 

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Did anyone else notice Jimmy’s math when Oscar was shooting free throws?

Being as generous as possible to Jimmy, with a jump from 70% to 75%, it require 60 attempts per game for a player to score an extra 3 points per game.
At his current rate of attempts per game, a jump of 5% in his free throw shooting would actually result in only 0.23 additional points per game.

I get it that analysts aren’t expected to be masters of sports analytics or anything, but he should be embarrassed to be that bad at basic arithmetic in such a public forum.
OP has a .23 BAC at the time of their post.
 
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Speaking of FTs. Has anyone noticed how shaky Kellen Grady is at the line? He’s currently shooting only 57% from the line away from Rupp. For as good of shooter as he is, this number should never be that low.
 
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saxonburgcat

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Did anyone else notice Jimmy’s math when Oscar was shooting free throws?

Being as generous as possible to Jimmy, with a jump from 70% to 75%, it require 60 attempts per game for a player to score an extra 3 points per game.
At his current rate of attempts per game, a jump of 5% in his free throw shooting would actually result in only 0.23 additional points per game.

I get it that analysts aren’t expected to be masters of sports analytics or anything, but he should be embarrassed to be that bad at basic arithmetic in such a public forum.

I have a more simple way to think about it all. If I am a 70% FT shooter, I will probably hit 7 out of 10 FT's in a particular game. Even if I raise my average to 80%, I am only adding 1 point to my per game average assuming again that I shoot 10 FT's.
 

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Did anyone else notice Jimmy’s math when Oscar was shooting free throws?

Being as generous as possible to Jimmy, with a jump from 70% to 75%, it require 60 attempts per game for a player to score an extra 3 points per game.
At his current rate of attempts per game, a jump of 5% in his free throw shooting would actually result in only 0.23 additional points per game.

I get it that analysts aren’t expected to be masters of sports analytics or anything, but he should be embarrassed to be that bad at basic arithmetic in such a public forum.
Reminds me of the story my ol' daddy used to tell about the ol' boy from Tennessee who wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but had made a fortune running a restaurant in the hills of East Tennessee. One of his high school classmates, who knew he wasn't a scholar, asked the ol' boy from Tennessee how he'd made all that money runnin' a restaurant, since lots of restaurants fail. The ol' boy said, "Well, I've never thought it was hard to figure out. You buy a steak for $3.00 and sell it for $10.00 and make 7%."
 

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Reminds me of the story my ol' daddy used to tell about the ol' boy from Tennessee who wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but had made a fortune running a restaurant in the hills of East Tennessee. One of high school classmates, who knew he wasn't a scholar, asked the ol' boy from Tennessee how he'd made all that money runnin' a restaurant, since lots of restaurants fail. The ol' boy said, "Well, I've never thought it was hard to figure out. You buy a steak for $3.00 and sell it for $10.00 and make 7%."
 

UK90

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Reminds me of the story my ol' daddy used to tell about the ol' boy from Tennessee who wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but had made a fortune running a restaurant in the hills of East Tennessee. One of his high school classmates, who knew he wasn't a scholar, asked the ol' boy from Tennessee how he'd made all that money runnin' a restaurant, since lots of restaurants fail. The ol' boy said, "Well, I've never thought it was hard to figure out. You buy a steak for $3.00 and sell it for $10.00 and make 7%."
LOL. Some people just don’t get numbers. But they’re often very good at other things …I’d bet his steaks were damn tasty.
 
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pauled#1

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I’ve learned to watch the game and never hear Dykes or Bilas! Kinda like tuning the wife out!
 

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Did anyone else notice Jimmy’s math when Oscar was shooting free throws?

Being as generous as possible to Jimmy, with a jump from 70% to 75%, it require 60 attempts per game for a player to score an extra 3 points per game.
At his current rate of attempts per game, a jump of 5% in his free throw shooting would actually result in only 0.23 additional points per game.

I get it that analysts aren’t expected to be masters of sports analytics or anything, but he should be embarrassed to be that bad at basic arithmetic in such a public forum.
Lol you wasted a lot of time to post this. Who really gives a **** if he misspoke
 

saxonburgcat

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Lol you wasted a lot of time to post this. Who really gives a **** if he misspoke

Personally, I like Jimmy. However, what he did was not a misspeak. He was just wrong in his thinking process at that moment in time.

At least get the terminology correct. That word is so abused. Politicians use it all the time to cover up a lie. Yeah, Hillary "misspoke" when she said she was on the tarmac dodging bullets! LOL
 

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I like Jimmy. No big deal. A lot is going on during a broadcast, sometimes people misspeak. Producers are talking in his ear, stats people are giving him facts/figures and he is watching a game trying to talk. It is a lot harder than most people think.

Give me him and Tom Hart every game.
 

revcort

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He is one of the few color commentators that I enjoy at ESPN.

Crazy math/stats are everywhere, like this from one of my favorite books of all time:

“I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve”
Ah, Bilbo Baggins! 😃
Love that movie, book, character.
 
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This may be an epidemic. Here's what Eric Decker at KSR had to say in response to Alabama's poor three point shooting:

Three is worth more than two. Therefore, using the power of basic math and global economics, you can deduce that you want to be hitting threes at a rate of at least 33% or it just mathematically doesn’t make sense to even be taking them.

Really? That might make sense if you are hitting 50% of your twos. But what if you can only hit 40% of your twos?

In all fairness, his entire article, even though it was attempting to say something nice about UK, didn't make sense.
 
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Did anyone else notice Jimmy’s math when Oscar was shooting free throws?

Being as generous as possible to Jimmy, with a jump from 70% to 75%, it require 60 attempts per game for a player to score an extra 3 points per game.
At his current rate of attempts per game, a jump of 5% in his free throw shooting would actually result in only 0.23 additional points per game.

I get it that analysts aren’t expected to be masters of sports analytics or anything, but he should be embarrassed to be that bad at basic arithmetic in such a public forum.