Doesn't have Christ Jones or Bear Wilson listed in the top 5 at their respective position at this time.
FWIW: Todd McShay
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Not sure where that would cause them to fall pick wise, but I seem to remember someone, maybe the NFLPA, doing a study last year that concluded you're statistically far more likely to fail in the NFL if you come out as a junior projected outside the first two rounds. There are definitely exceptions, seemingly J-Rob being one (so far), but it's looking more and more like it would be in both their best interests to come back.
Jones should come back,if he wants to improve his earnings from the start.The top 5 DL's are pretty much set in stone.
Bear isn't going to improve his stock by coming back.He is what he is.And that's a number two type of WR that will make his money by playing his role and being a dominating blocking WR in the NFL.Something that is highly valued by pro teams,but a dying art.
Bear isn't going to improve his stock by coming back.He is what he is.And that's a number two type of WR that will make his money by playing his role and being a dominating blocking WR in the NFL.Something that is highly valued by pro teams,but a dying art.
Chris' problems all seem
to be a motivation issue. I just don't understand how that is w these kids who have opportunities to earn more money than a great deal of us will in our life, though.
to be a motivation issue. I just don't understand how that is w these kids who have opportunities to earn more money than a great deal of us will in our life, though.
I agree with that. Bear's strengths and weaknesses aren't going to change much with another year of college football.
I felt the same about Jrob last year.
I felt the same about Jrob last year.
C.Jones will make his money at the combine. But let's not act like he is not having a good year.
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| Tackles | Sacks | Pass Defense | Fumbles | Blkd | |||||||||||||||
| DEFENSIVE LEADERS | GP | Solo | Ast | Total | TFL-Yds | No-Yds | Int-Yds | BU | PD | Qbh | Rcv-Yds | FF | Kick | Saf | |||||
| 39 | Richie Brown | 8 | 32 | 36 | 68 | 6.0 | - 28 | 3.5 | - 24 | 1 | - 3 | 1 | 2 | . | . | . | . | . | |
| 42 | Beniquez Brown | 8 | 21 | 30 | 51 | 4.5 | - 16 | 1.5 | - 8 | 1 | - 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 | . | . | 1 | . | |
| 11 | Kivon Coman | 8 | 23 | 22 | 45 | 2.0 | - 10 | 0.5 | - 3 | . | 4 | 4 | 1 | . | . | . | . | ||
| 45 | J.T. Gray | 8 | 16 | 26 | 42 | 1.0 | - 3 | . | . | . | . | . | . | . | . | . | |||
| 4 | Gerri Green | 8 | 16 | 22 | 38 | 1.5 | - 3 | . | . | 1 | 1 | 1 | . | . | . | . | |||
| 47 | A.J. Jefferson | 8 | 21 | 17 | 38 | 11.5 | - 56 | 4.0 | - 35 | . | 1 | 1 | 4 | . | 1 | . | . | ||
| 20 | Brandon Bryant | 8 | 25 | 8 | 33 | 2.0 | - 19 | 1.5 | - 17 | 1 | - 73 | 3 | 4 | . | . | 1 | . | . | |
| 14 | Zach Jackson | 8 | 13 | 19 | 32 | 3.0 | - 9 | 1.0 | - 6 | . | 2 | 2 | 1 | . | . | . | . | ||
| 48 | Ryan Brown | 8 | 11 | 20 | 31 | 7.0 | - 53 | 2.5 | - 25 | . | 3 | 3 | 7 | . | . | . | . | ||
| 98 | Chris Jones | 8 | 10 | 20 | 30 | 4.0 | - 12 | 1.5 | - 10 | . | 1 | 1 | 3 | . | . | . | . |
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| Defense | G | Solo | Asst. | Total | Sacks/Yds | TFL/Yards | FF | FR | P Def | Int/Yds |
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| 2013 | 11 | 25 | 9 | 34 | 2 / 15 | 8 / 30 | -- | -- | 2 | -- |
| 2014 | 13 | 11 | 24 | 35 | 2 / 19 | 4 / 24 | -- | -- | 1 | -- |
| 2015 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 17 | 1.5 / 12 | 5.5 / 27 | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| TOTAL | 31 | 44 | 42 | 86 | 5.5 / 46 | 17.5 / 81 | -- | -- | 3 | -- |
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Sorry that you can't see the forest for the trees. Draft status has little to do with on-field production.
A.J. Seems the obvious one to leave early. Dude has 12 negative yardage plays to his credit already this year. Full grown man. Ryan Brown's been filling up the stat sheet as well.
Still though RK is looked at as the greatest defensive player since Lawrence Taylor and cj is looked at as underperforming while their stats are very similar
As far as the stats.....Makes just a little bit of difference that RN is double teamed every play and Chris isn't. I remember coming out of high school when RN and Chris were rated the #1 and #2 players in the country. They seem to have equal talent. I agree with KurtRambis....it's all between his ears.
So, is Jones double-teamed 90% of the plays? Is that the little bit of difference of which you speak?
Maybe Freezus was smart to move RkN to offense. Seems like he's wasting away as a decoy with all those double-teams.**
Certainly not, but
as Jose said, Jones is going to kill it at the combines and that will go a LONG way
as Jose said, Jones is going to kill it at the combines and that will go a LONG way
Actually with AJ Jefferson and Ryan Brown playing so well, Chris is rarely double-teamed anymore. More like 25% of the time. That's the "little bit of difference" I was talking about. Josey.....since you know so much, why don't you tell us why Chris has not developed in college after being the #2 high schooler in the nation three years ago, as opposed to RN, who has lived up to his expectations. Again I agree with KurtRambis.....their talents are about equal; it's all between his ears.
Since you are the biggest RN fan this side of the Mississippi, please tell me what RN has done to live up to his #1 status. Their numbers were similar last year and favor Jones this season. ETA: Is RN the second coming of Suh?
Clearly you saw RN in the open field? And you say that their talents are "about equal"? RN carries his weight better than Jones.
100% = every play? Why does Florida not double team RN?.. since you're a huge fan and all. I just picked the first video. Sounds like it's all between your ears.
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Josey..... I haven't watched RN much this year and I'm not a fan of his. However, I do watch ESPN and read the NFL draft analysts, etc. They all have RN rated as somewhere between #1 and #3 in next spring's draft. You make it sound like I am a big fan of RN and nobody else thinks he's any good. LOL So there is the answer to your question about why I think he's lived up to his hype from high school. ESPN and the rest of the free world (Todd McShay, Mel Kiper, etc) says he's gonna be a high draft pick! Since I don't watch him very often, I wouldn't know. But unlike you, I don't pretend I know more than all the NFL draft analysts. They are the ones saying he's lived up to his hype, etc. So call ESPN and complain to them, since you know about it than they do! Maybe they'll hire ya! LOL
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