Especially after we got so close at LSU. Our guys just checked out tonight. Unacceptable, but it will be addressed.
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Tells me our bench is subpar and can’t be relied on in March.
But you do see this in ALL sports. I watch pro teams check out in games. I remember Lebrons team playing the water-bottle-flip-game on the sidelines when the game was over and a blow out.
My ONLY worry is IF Cal is still trying this big man lineup.. but I think that was more of an end of game thing, and something that's dying little by little.
We stopped trying to score against the Vandy press. We let them play high pressure without any of the risk. There were plenty of opportunities to take it to the rim in a 2v1 after breaking the press, but we pulled it back to run down the shot clock.
Cal is historic for taking his foot off the pedal, air out of the ball, whatever you want to call it. Even in big tournament games.
Meh. I'd worry about that stuff OP if I thought that was the lineup Cal would have out there during crunch time in late February and March.
He won't. So I'm not worried about it. Doesn't mean I don't want our bench to be better, they clearly need to be, but they are the bench for a reason. It is what it is as they say.
He won't. So I'm not worried about it. Doesn't mean I don't want our bench to be better, they clearly need to be, but they are the bench for a reason. It is what it is as they say.
But we whine and cry when he doesn’t play the bench players. You want Oscar to roll an ankle up 28 in January? Or do you want the bench to develop?
How could any Wildcat fan be OK with the last 5 minutes? Our guys worked hard and played great to get a good blow out win and the coach put in a couple of guys that did nothing to at least help hold the hard work they did. Did it the first half also, squandering a 12 point lead from subbing. What good did it do? Just lessened the work the first six done.
Our fans. Are. Retarded
Actually the casual fan isn’t so bad. But our message board/Twitter fans are out of touch morons mostly
There's plenty good to say, but tell me you didn't get flashbacks to the Wisky loss with the slowdown of play. Or even the 2nd half of 2012 where we scored only 26 points and nearly let KU come back on us.
So a poster can start a thread on UK's largest (by far) fan website telling our coach to "shove it" and doesn't get banned?
If it’s ok for Matt Jones to whine about it on the postgame show, why shouldn’t it be allowed to be a topic on a message board?
He ain’t changing. These scoring droughts and stall ball are gonna cost us in March (again) I fear.
I didn’t, because it was as close to impossible as it possibly could be to lose by the time he subbed everybody. At that point, yeah, get everybody who we actually need tf outta there.
Personally, I’m much more worried about the scoring droughts this team (and Cal teams in general) has. As good as we can look on offense it seems we still don’t have one player or a designed play that can get us a bucket to stop a drought or momentum. That’s what scares me for our chances in March.
you being silent would be golden. Idiots are not welcome.
Hopkins/Collins/Toppin shouldn't be on the floor together in the 1H of any game, or ever except maybe :30 before a media timeout, or in the final 2:00 of a blowout. That group is bottom-tier SEC caliber as a front court unit at this stage of their careers. Mixed in with others? Valid and viable as role players.
If playing the 3 Bigs at the same time was a help off the bench offensively / defensively then It would probably work. Maybe more so if they were upperclassmen and had experience off the bench. However where they are freshmen and being taken advantage of by their weakness in their games, whether it's on offense or defense. So Cal shouldn't be playing 3 bigs like that in games because they're not bringing anything off the bench to help the team in there at the same time. It's only hurting us and it WILL end up costing us in a game with Cal's history of taking the air out of the ball way too early in games.
I really like the idea of playing 4 guards and Oscar and trying to get one of the other bigs out there when Oscar gets in foul trouble that won't hurt us. I Just don't know who do you put out there?
I Don't have any problems with last night's game, other than how we finished it out. I just wish Cal would stop playing "taking the air out of the ball" in games and just crush our opponents' souls.
I really like the idea of playing 4 guards and Oscar and trying to get one of the other bigs out there when Oscar gets in foul trouble that won't hurt us. I Just don't know who do you put out there?
I Don't have any problems with last night's game, other than how we finished it out. I just wish Cal would stop playing "taking the air out of the ball" in games and just crush our opponents' souls.
Well. We should just quit and go home. Give up because some random fan thinks the bench is subpar. Do you know that combination of players is the same that would be used in March? Do you know the way they were advised to play? Do you know the coaches instructions for each player? Of course you don’t. In fact you don’t really know anything.
Bottom line, the last 10 minutes was not for fans to yuck it up blowing out a team. The coaches used it for other purposes. One of those purposes was NOT projecting anything about March. In fact this was not a game that gives us any information like that. We were playing in the armpit of the SEC. We won easily. We had no injuries. Move on. That is what the team is doing.
Yeah Vandy getting away with murder, pressing way too hard, leaving Grady wide open after we beat their press, and no shots taken, just holding the ball.
Let’s Vandy press even harder and harder, and before you know it we can barely get the ball up the floor. We’re getting mugged by the defense and aren’t getting calls, and the team refused to take the open shots or take advantages of mismatches that appeared early in the shot clock.
If a team is pressing you like that you have to score to get them to stop, or at least make them back off to where your point guard can carry the ball up the court, get in a half court set, bleed the clock down to 10 and then run a quick play actually looking for a decent shot to cap the possession. Not just playing keepaway for 30 seconds every possession hoping to get out of the game with the lead you had being enough.
Against any top half SEC team that 28 point lead is gone playing like that and we’re in a dogfight with a minute to go with 0 offensive momentum.
People can keep dogging me if they want, they can enjoy this win if they want, if they don’t rectify that end of game performance I hope you’re happy with this win and I hope you’re happy with our round of 32 exit. I’ve never been a huge farr Cal guy, I’m mostly a sunshine pumper, but last night has me infinitely more concerned than any loss this season has had me.
And it’s not about substitutions or the bench playing like many here are trying to scapegoat it to be, I’m not mad at Cal for playing or not playing the bench, I’ve named starters that were in the game and refusing to take shots in my posts. Grady wide open multiple times, passed on every shot to run the clock down.
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That was a nice way of framing it. If you had said we beat Vandy it might not have sounded as impressive. I'm happy with any game we don't lose. Gives the players a chance to learn and it doesn't throw another loss on the record.
Any win in this league is good. Vandy has a really solid defense. If they could find the ocean from more than Pippen they’d be dangerous.
Be interesting to see who plays them next at Memorial. Also Vandy did go to Arky and knock off a win. So, they ain’t “turrible” terrible.
Ready for Saturday. Next week though is going to be a war. A&M and Auburn. Whew.
We are either the nail or the hammer and these next two weeks will show it.
A bit early for this conclusion as our bench for March isn't available now with Wheeler out. Mintz will be part of the bench in March and there may be another guy making waves by then as well. I think ideally we have Wheeler, TyTy, Grady, brooks and Oscar with Mintz, Sharpe & Toppin off the bench by post-season time.
If Cal doesn't play Sharpe that bench is pretty hit or miss. As others have pointed out, Mintz has done better starting the last couple of games so will he keep shooting well once he becomes 6th man again? He should, but who knows.
These are college kids, hard to stay motivated when you’re up 30. That’s exactly what cal did, played bench players which compounded the issue. He could have kept the starters in and held a 30 point lead, but then you’d be on the forums complaining we didn’t develop a bench and Oscar could have got hurt! It’s a situation you can’t win
Fortunately UK had a huge lead, 28 points. Not uncommon when teams have a huge lead check out mentally, get sloppy, lack focus, and let the opponent make it look closer than it really was. Not going to make a huge deal of it, but if I was Cal I'd be pretty ticked. This can cost you big time vs better quality opponents.
This is right on. We did the basketball equivalent of kneeling for the last eighth of the game.
Margin of victory doesn't matter in the NET rankings after 10 so I'm okay with it. It's obvious that Hopkins and Collins can't be on the floor together, and especially not with Toppin. You'd think they would be alright after playing together in the second unit in practice and such.
You are grown. Quit your crying over a blowout.