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drt7891

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Unfortunately, the rest of Mississippi doesn't. Philip Gunn has completely retreated from his position.

This is what the rest of the country thinks of us.
 
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Dear God, that's embarrassing. But then again so are our literacy levels, teenage pregnancy percentage, percentage in poverty, etc. Neil Young picked the wrong state to sing about.


ETA: But just like Freeman, Grisham, and Archie, I haven't lived there in quite some time, so like their's, my opinion probably doesn't matter. Although, **** like this may be why so many of us decided to leave in the first place.
 
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I use to read stories like this and think "that doesn't represent all of us (Mississippians)". However, as I have gotten older, I'm afraid it characterizes a much larger percentage of the population than I originally estimated in my younger days.
 
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You left out a percentage or two that lead to the others. However, on the flip side of the same coin, why doesn't the Washington Post article mention the level of charitable giving? MS may rank low in poverty, but they always rank higher in giving back than most "progressive states."
 
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They think we hang black people and burn crosses in the yards of the ones we don`t hang. This is a bad situation that just keeps getting worse.
 
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One of the ironies of this article is that one of the few places that is as bad as Mississippi in several of the areas you mention is the home town of the newspaper this article appears in. DC is awful...
 
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I always said the Neshoba County Fair was nothing more than the Grove coming to East Central Mississippi. That article seems to prove my distaste for it.
 
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I agree. Honestly, the sad part for me isn't the facts. Besides being last in everything good, Mississippi isn't much better or worse than anywhere else. The problem is perception. No one perceives DC to be that bad, but Mississippi has done NOTHING to change its image. Absolutely nothing. And the opportunity we had in 2001 and now 2015 to at least stand up and realize an outdated symbol on our state flag might be perceived as offensive to some, instead becomes more ammo for this perceived "attack" from "PC liberals" that are "out to get us." Not to mention EVERY OTHER STATE that had it has voted to take it down... Except us. To me, it is infuriating.
 
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CochiseCowbell said:
You left out a percentage or two that lead to the others. However, on the flip side of the same coin, why doesn't the Washington Post article mention the level of charitable giving? MS may rank low in poverty, but they always rank higher in giving back than most "progressive states."
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What percentage of "charitable giving" includes church tithing?
 
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Yeah, we've got issues seeing the solutions to the problems we have. Literacy/education continue to be a problem, but we keep cutting funding? Teen pregnancy and STD's is another stupid and sad state of affairs...you'd think the state that largely promotes "abstinence only" sex education would get a 17ing clue.
 
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Why don't we dig up Margert Sanger's body and get rid of her legacy. Where are our leaders on this issue. Just saying....
 
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This really has

no direct bearing on the linked article, but after I saw and read two articles in that rag over the last few weeks that were about racism in the military's SOF community and the POW/MIA flag being racist, I lost all respect for anything ever to be posted there again. Both were complete garbage.
 
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drt7891 said:
I agree. Honestly, the sad part for me isn't the facts. Besides being last in everything good, Mississippi isn't much better or worse than anywhere else. The problem is perception. No one perceives DC to be that bad, but Mississippi has done NOTHING to change its image. Absolutely nothing. And the opportunity we had in 2001 and now 2015 to at least stand up and realize an outdated symbol on our state flag might be perceived as offensive to some, instead becomes more ammo for this perceived "attack" from "PC liberals" that are "out to get us." Not to mention EVERY OTHER STATE that had it has voted to take it down... Except us. To me, it is infuriating.
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Wow, dude. You are really serious about what other people, who have never visited Miss, think about your state. Nobody thinks DC is bad because all they know is what they saw on their 6th grade field trip. The National Mall area of DC is one of the cleanest major cities I've ever been to. So, maybe you should adopt-a-highway or something and let out some of that frustration.

But you are right. We should have the balls to change when something isn't PC. For example, when UK realized that their mascot had a dick in it's mouth, they changed their symbol. Why can't Miss?

 
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drt7891 said:
Unfortunately, the rest of Mississippi doesn't. Philip Gunn has completely retreated from his position.

This is what the rest of the country thinks of us.
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I wouldn't say that he has 'completed retreated', he reaffirmed his position at Neshoba. I will say that he has been quiet since his statement on the flag. What will be interesting to me is if he is voted out as speaker by the Repub caucus next year (assuming the GOP retains the state house, which is not a for sure thing).
 
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It's not the flag, it's the reluctance or refusal to adapt that is the issue.

Take Costco for example...how in the world is it that Mississippi has zero Costco locations? The rest of the country has been buying awesome stuff for half-price for years, and still there are folks in Mississippi who for some reason think they are above that? It's delusional.

I think it was Sports Illustrated about 20 years ago that said something like "the Egg Bowl is a battle for pride in a state without much to be proud of". Things like the flag are the reason that perception persists.
 
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drt7891 said:
This is why our state is last in everything. Pure hatred for anything that's not "like us" and no one in a position to make change with a backbone to push for change. This is the headline on the Washington Post tomorrow.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...590924-41d3-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html
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You do know that everyone that was interviewed and asked about the flag wasn't for keeping it right? Everyone he encountered didn't sound like a they were transplanted from the 1960s.

It's called an agenda. And interviews were picked and chosen based on that agenda. And to aid that agenda, embellishments may have had to be made. We are talking about a Washington, D.C. paper after all.
 
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WalkTheDawg said:
You do know that everyone that was interviewed and asked about the flag wasn't for keeping it right? Everyone he encountered didn't sound like a they were transplanted from the 1960s.

It's called an agenda. And interviews were picked and chosen based on that agenda. And to aid that agenda, embellishments may have had to be made. We are talking about a Washington, D.C. paper after all.
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Yeah, this was a hack writing an article for a target audience. It's written for people of average intelligence or worse that want to feel better about themselves by pointing out a whole state of people that are dumber. It'd be pretty easy to go into certain parts of pretty much any major metro area in teh northeast and put together a story with a bunch of quotes about hwo white people are all evil. And there'd be a population dumb enough to think that was the way a significant plurality if not majority of the people in the city think. That population wouldn't be as large as the one that believes it about MS because more people have been to cities, but same concept.
 
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Would you just look at all the diversity in that picture?

They've got all shades of white people and all colors of white people hair.
 
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But we have clearly put ourselves in a position to have articles like this written about us. 3 states have voted to remove the confederate emblem from their flag and/or state grounds, 2 of them in the last 3 months. But not us. We say we aren't going to give in to a "PC liberal agenda" (aGAIN, I hear this every single day).

No one should be surprised when articles like this are written about us. We are too 17ing stubborn and unwilling to see this issue from any other viewpoint. NO ONE outside our borders is saying "way to go, Mississippi, you stand your ground." They are saying "are they really too stubborn to realize this? this is 2015 for goodness sakes."

And it goes well beyond the media, too. If our response to the flag issue keeps even one business from coming here, it's an epic failure. We are dead last in everything and we blame everyone else instead of working to change perception (which might just attract some businesses/jobs to our failing economy). Changing the flag is the absolute least we can do.
 
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The first stage of recovery is admitting you have a problem. Talking to half my friends and family in Mississippi is like talking to an addict. A lot of excuses, blaming everybody else, unwillingness to change and seeming to enjoy being the victim because to fix the problem they'd be like everybody else, but as long as they're being picked on it's because they're "special." At some point it's time to grow up and stop acting like a butt-hurt seven year old.
 
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johnson86-1 said:
Yeah, this was a hack writing an article for a target audience. It's written for people of average intelligence or worse that want to feel better about themselves by pointing out a whole state of people that are dumber. It'd be pretty easy to go into certain parts of pretty much any major metro area in teh northeast and put together a story with a bunch of quotes about hwo white people are all evil. And there'd be a population dumb enough to think that was the way a significant plurality if not majority of the people in the city think. That population wouldn't be as large as the one that believes it about MS because more people have been to cities, but same concept.
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This might be my favorite post ever. Damn the northeast and the people who work at the Washington Post who aren't as smart as the average pro-flag Mississippian!
 
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I'd like to give a big FU to the Tommy Williams cabin. My goodness, can we at least try to keep national reporters out of that area?
 
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Bulldogg31 said:
It's not the flag, it's the reluctance or refusal to adapt that is the issue.

Take Costco for example...how in the world is it that Mississippi has zero Costco locations? The rest of the country has been buying awesome stuff for half-price for years, and still there are folks in Mississippi who for some reason think they are above that? It's delusional.
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Um.. because MS is a low populous state with the lowest median income in the country?
 
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Will James said:
1. I don't think a flag is why we're last in everything.

2. Maybe we could have a tough nosed reputation if we didn't have so many whiny little bitches
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The argument some people make about the flag and our past is why we are last is getting old. We have brought more new industry into this state in the last 10 years than we have in a long time and the flag was not an issue.

If we removed the flag would it really start an economic boom? No. Do companies care about a flag? No. All they care about is $ signs and tax incentives.

The argument about changing the flag is perfectly fine but its not what is keeping us at the bottom. We will always be at least 5th to the bottom no matter what happens. That is what folks have to live with.
 
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johnson86-1 said:
Yeah, this was a hack writing an article for a target audience. It's written for people of average intelligence or worse that want to feel better about themselves by pointing out a whole state of people that are dumber. It'd be pretty easy to go into certain parts of pretty much any major metro area in teh northeast and put together a story with a bunch of quotes about hwo white people are all evil. And there'd be a population dumb enough to think that was the way a significant plurality if not majority of the people in the city think. That population wouldn't be as large as the one that believes it about MS because more people have been to cities, but same concept.
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He either only interviewed people on one side of the issue at the fair on purpose or left out over half of the people interviewed.
Why do these hack journalist only want to make MS look bad? B/C it sells papers and online clicks...
 
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esplanade91 said:
This might be my favorite post ever. Damn the northeast and the people who work at the Washington Post who aren't as smart as the average pro-flag Mississippian!
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Yeah, if that's really what you took from that post, I'd guess your intelligence puts you squarely in their target audience, just in a different geographic location. Seriously, don't be dumb. And if you have to be dumb, would you please stay in Mississippi so you don't sully the state's reputation with people from the northeast?**
 
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