LOCKED: OT: Ben Carson had a good night.

[BeardoMSU]

The irony of BeardoMSU calling the chairman of neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins University (for you liberals, it's a prestigious medical institution in Maryland) 'stupid' is the equivalent of Forrest Gump calling Einstein "stupid".

Wow. Show me where I said he was "stupid", dipshit. I said he "said and believed some stupid things".

 

[Will James]

Agreed. GOP must win Ohio and Florida to win. Kasich/Rubio would make a good ticket in my opinion, and would be hard to beat.

The DNC would love that to be the ticket. You realize the guys that Democrats say did well aren't really the guys they're afraid of.

The media loves them some Kaisich just like they loved them some McCain. Kaisich would be a repeat of the 2012 election. A huge Dem victory, possibly even the end of tne Republican Party. There would be a split, no question.

 

[Southern Law Dawg]

Wow. Show me where I said he was "stupid", dipshit. I said he "said and believed some stupid things".

You see, Beardo, conservatives do not live in a world of nuance. Everyone is either smart or stupid. They can't handle the liberal party line of "Ben Carson is an incredibly talented doctor, but not a very good politician and has some awful opinions".

-BDX55

 

[dorndawg]

I'm sure the irony of a poster with the name WILL JAMES making these comments will be lost on some. Say hey to St Paddy for me, will ya boyo?

Trump did his civic duty of raising the alertness, seriousness, and importance of the immigration issue. The country as an American culture (July 4th, Thanksgiving, etc) just basic Americana is rapidly being lost.

He was the snowplow clearing the way for Cruz. That's what will happen. The mass immigration of unskilled uncultured people who have no desire for skills or our culture has to stop.

 

[esplanade91]

As a "damned liberal" who would consider voting for a republican candidate close to the center, my thoughts:

Rubio had a great debate, but he lost me with the abortion stuff. I liked what he had to say about education reform needing to be a national movement instead of a state set standard.

Ben Carson has some extreme opinions in the social realm but doesn't have a voting record to balance them out. Perhaps because of some of the things he's said in the past (prison makes people gay, for example) I didn't go into the night considering him and didn't think he did all that great.

Bush did a horrible job separating himself from the other Bush's, and at on point he defended the war in Iraq by saying that "ISIS didn't exist when my brother left office." Technically true, I guess. He also defended Common Core.

Christie is a guy I really liked back in 2008/2012, but it seems like he's moved further right. Last night he defended the Patriot Act, NSA surveillance, and used "9/11" as much as possible. Thought he chocked hard.

Rand has always had the most appeal to me, but he's so bad at debating people and portraying his opinions in a flattering manner. I think him picking fights with Trump and Christie had a more lasting effect than any of the stuff he said.

Kasich won me over big time. Came out guns blazing on prison reform and drug treatment as opposed to drug punishment. Gave a wonderful non-answer on immigration in which he basically said its too complicated of an issue to discuss in 30 seconds.

Cruz grandstanded the entire time, especially about our nation's debt and how it's Obama's fault. No mention of Iraq.

My personal take is that the guys who flew closer to the center won the debate. Just based on last night the only guys I'd consider are Rubio, Kasich, and MAYBE Bush. Just from last night.

I think people my age want to hear less about taxes (we're in way too much debt because of both parties, taxes are going to have to be raised regardless, and I don't want to hear how it's Obama's fault... Just fix it), less devisive rhetoric, and more discussion on social issues. I'm desperately looking for someone to vote for other than Hillary, and the GOP needs to capitalize on that.

 

[ShrubDog]

Kasich was the managing director of Lehman Brothers during the sub prime fiasco and bailout. I don't trust that bankster with a dime.

 

[MississippiHeavyMetalDog]

Thanks for clarifying, Einstein.

He's not stupid, but he says and believes stupid things. Is this astrology or astrosurgery?

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to
their level and then beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain

Wow. Show me where I said he was "stupid", dipshit. I said he "said and believed some stupid things".

 

[BeardoMSU]

Thanks for clarifying, Einstein

You're very welcome. I hope your horse wins***

 

[Southern Law Dawg]

He's not stupid, but he says and believes stupid things. Is this astrology or astrosurgery?

People can be brilliant in one field and still have terrible opinions. Your lack of ability to interpret nuance is sad.

 

[MississippiHeavyMetalDog]

You obviously have NO idea what it takes to do what he has done. It is impossible for someone with his experience to have such a narrow scope on life as you imply. IMPOSSIBLE. Educate yourself, read his book.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Maybe ringmaster was more appropriate

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[BeardoMSU]

It is impossible for someone with his experience to have such a narrow scope on life as you imply. IMPOSSIBLE.

Do you really believe that?

Interesting....I guess Carson is the first highly educated person to delve into politics?

 

[drt7891]

I'm in the exact same boat. I'm neither a democrat nor republican, but I'm strongly considering voting republican this year, just to balance out the direction the democrats are wanting to go (I'm not big at all on this wealth inequality stuff, particularly), so I'm not big on sanders at all. Hillary has been around way too long, as well.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

and I don't want to hear how it's Obama's fault... Just fix it), less devisive rhetoric, and more discussion on social issues.[/QUOT

So, you don't like blaming the predecessor or divisive rhetoric and you're a liberal. I'm interested to know how you rationalize the last six years of these very things.

 

[MississippiHeavyMetalDog]

even though it's like shooting fish in a barrel, Twain was right.

nm

Do you really believe that?

Interesting....I guess Carson is the first highly educated person to delve into politics?

 

[mstateglfr]

Trump did his civic duty of raising the alertness, seriousness, and importance of the immigration issue. The country as an American culture (July 4th, Thanksgiving, etc) just basic Americana is rapidly being lost.

4th of July and Thanksgiving are rapidly being lost? I understand you are saying traditions and all are whats being lost, but you cited 2 things that aren't in any way close to being lost. There is no rapid loss of Thanksgiving. Where do you live and how exactly is the 4th of July rapidly being lost?

Trump on immigration over the last couple months has been mindblowing to watch. Its like he is sitting there and actively tries to sound more over the top and extreme each time he responds to an immigration question. He wants to build a 2000mile wall and deport 11million people. The impracticality of all that is staggering to even consider. $600million to just build the wall, meanwhile displacing families and building it in the literal middle of nowhere in rough terrain. The only way to round up 11million people is to turn us into a police state. The costs and economic impact would be disastrous.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...caf02c-006b-11e5-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html
Besides, it appears with overall illegals down over the last 15 years plus less illegals attempting to cross and also less successfully crossing each year, the border is more secure than in decades. Is this really the wedge issue that Republicans want to use since, you know, they would have to acknowledge how reduced the numbers have been since Obama has been in office?

 

[BeardoMSU]

nm

Haha, alright then.

 

[esplanade91]

I really like Bernie, personally. But he's essentially Ron Paul. It's fun to hear him rally the troops but I have a better chance of being elected in 2016.

I'm for the AFA, but both sides are skewing facts to their liking and the wealth of misinformation the average voter has has tainted the whole thing.

I just want weed to be legal and for someone to stay out of the Middle East. Give me that candidate.