MS Catholic Schools
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This will show my MHSAA ignorance but here goes....
Does St Stan get some kind of double multiplier? 1 for private and 1 for all boys?
Friend's son goes to an all boys Catholic school in Cincinnati. They get some sort of double whammy for all boys and private with regard to classification.
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There is a girl's school right next door- Our Lady Academy. I wonder if they combine the two to determine classification.
ETA - it appears they don't. They are both listed here with different enrollment numbers.
http://www.misshsaa.com/GeneralInfo...ives-State-Department-enrollment-numbers.aspx
ETA - it appears they don't. They are both listed here with different enrollment numbers.
http://www.misshsaa.com/GeneralInfo...ives-State-Department-enrollment-numbers.aspx
I don't know about here, but in some places there is an additional multiplier for a gender-specific school. After all, if one school has 500 students with about a 50/50 split of male/female, then they are comparatively about half the size of a school of 500 males-only when it comes to male sports.
I don't believe so. I think I saw that St Stan is 4A and OLA is 2A. They do have a joint tennis team, though.
I guess it wouldn't take effect until fall 2017 since they're just starting a new 2-year cycle this fall. I'll be very surprised to see any of the Catholic, Episcopal or other private schools still in MHSAA in 2 years if they don't change the 1.5 multiplier.
Shoot, some kids in Eagle Lake are more than 20 miles from Warren Central if you want to get technical.
I think the MHSAA doubles their numbers for the purposes of reclassification since they're single-sex schools.
I think it's the difference between officially official and officially unofficial (which I'm sure he knew was the case).
Does it really take that much money to have a high school athletics association? Why would MAIS be dependent on those schools? It seems like the vast majority of work could be farmed out to committees consisting of representatives from the schools. At worst you have to pay for one executive director and one administrative staff, but I think you could get by without even that. What do they do that is so taxing? I know there's a lot of stuff you'd want a good association to do, like arranging for referee training and such; but all of it seems like stuff you can do without if you really have to.
I don't think MAIS would fold because of a lack of funding. It would be because it would basically lose authority and credibility if the largest schools left it. It would be like if the SEC pulled out of the NCAA. How many other schools would follow, and how long do you think the NCAA (as it is) would last? It might continue in name, but not in scope.
No doubt. As I posted earlier, I think this is all about kicking the Catholic, Episcopal and private schools out without actually kicking them out. You just make the rules as unfair as it takes to get them to leave voluntarily.
Does anyone other than St. Andrews and Ocean Springs have lacrosse? I saw someone in a Madison Central lacrosse t-shirt at a football game a couple of years ago and I saw a practice at the Tulane fields, but I'm not aware of an actual lacrosse team playing games.
Which is just absolutely stupid. MHSAA should be concerned with expanding, not shrinking. They're far past the point economically where the addition of a new school costs them little per unit because of fixed costs.
It's all because a few coaches got their panties in a wad because an out-of-state kid made a play to beat them that one time.
There's also been a lot of resentment over Tupelo Christian and Greenville St. Joe. among the 1A schools in the northern part of the state. And there are a LOT of 1A schools up there.
With the ban taking place immediately, I can't believe he realistically considered they would stay.
I suspect he figured it was too late for them to change the schedules around so they would be locked in to playing this fall's schedule. Sucks for some of the innocent bystander schools who are going to be left with open dates, but the fact is a lot of those schools are the same ones who caused this in the first place.
That's true. I'm interested to see what comes of Madison St. Joe. They've announced they aren't moving now because the out-of-state doesn't affect them, but the multiplier will when it kicks in (likely) in 2017. So, I wonder if they are letting the others transition now hastily since they will be immediately affected while Madison St. Joe takes a longer approach. However, they may risk being ineligible for playoffs immediately. MAIS announced that those transitioning now could compete in the playoffs in 2015-16 since they were kind of forced into it, but Madison St. Joe wouldn't have that excuse if they delayed.
They don't need credibility. They are just organizing athletic events for schools. And the schools that would be left don't rely on a single athlete playing there because of the credibility of their sports league. The vast majority of them are tiny schools in the middle of nowhere with no decent public school options. Maybe some baseball players at the exceptions like UCS (or whatever it's called now) might transfer because they have no competition left to play against, but otherwise, the vast majority of the players are there because there is no option and where there is another option, they get athletes that come there just so they can compete for playing time at a smaller school. All the MAIS needs is enough schools within reasonable proximity of each other to be able to schedule a full season. Losing schools would hurt because it would cut out some of the potential teams to schedule with, but it's not like there would be a great other option. Go to public school where they'd be the tiniest of the tiniest schools?
As I understand it, the 1.5 multiplier won't be voted on until next year. Madison St. Joe (and others that aren't leaving now) may be waiting to see how that vote goes. Or they may just have decided they don't have to make a decision on what to do immediately and wait a few months to make their decision.
Where did I say anything about players transferring? I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.
I expect lacrosse to really pick up steam in the next ten years. It's a relatively cheap sport to add since it utilizes existing space and doesn't require a lot of equipment in comparison. The biggest obstacle would be a full schedule with minimal travel, though. It's one of those sports that is better when a lot of schools around you have it, but no one will start it because there aren't a lot of schools around them with it.
It doesn't have anything to do with anything, just what you were saying about MAIS folding didn't make sense to me so I was curious where you were coming from.
One thing I saw on Twitter is the differences in seasons between female sports for MHSAA and MAIS.
Saw one girl as I was reading a twitter conversation about all of this - she will now do soccer, softball, cross country and be a cheerleader all in the fall. In MHSAA, soccer was in winter and softball was in spring.
Saw one girl as I was reading a twitter conversation about all of this - she will now do soccer, softball, cross country and be a cheerleader all in the fall. In MHSAA, soccer was in winter and softball was in spring.
Yea, MAIS splits up the girls and guys soccer seasons, whereas they run together in MHSAA. (This is so that schools can more easily just have one coach.)
MAIS also has two softball seasons - fastpitch and slowpitch. I believe MHSAA only has fastpitch, but I could be wrong there.
I talked to someone today and it's not happening, at least not anytime soon. This person would know better than anyone.
Being a Cathedral alum I can mark this as true. It was the same way back in '01 as far as the # of LA students go. On any given year, 95% of the LA kids that are there, started in elementary school. The river Catholic schools have always had their fair share of transfers. The fact that Cathedral romped *** with a couple of transfers really lit the fire of rival schools, which then began chirping, which then forced the MHSAA to make change. And when i say rival schools, I'm not speaking on CHS VS ST AL, I'm talking about several coaches in CHS's district.
Trinity was already a private school. At the end of the day, Cathedral had to do what was best for it's kids.
Greenville and Natchez have decent size towns right across the river(Vidalia, LA and Lake Village, AR). The reason I think St. Al's out-of-state numbers are so low is because Talulah is a good 25 min away from St. Al.
Slowpitch? Does MAIS also have the girls play 6 on 6 for basketball where 3 have to stay in the front court and 3 stay in the back court and only 2 dribbles are allowed?
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