Year 7 of his **** and We are the worst team in the SEC and maybe the worst team MSU ever put on the field. Really? year 7 of Cohen and We field the worst team we have EVER had? That is the trump card. We are worse than We have ever been in year 7 his coach.
Cohen must go.
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I could go either way. If a great replacement was lined up I say pull the trigger. Otherwise stay the course but build the Rolodex for a year just in case.
What's Buck Showalter up to these days? Come save us Nat! **
What's Buck Showalter up to these days? Come save us Nat! **
It's been a pretty good 5 year run under Cohen, although I understand this year sucked. 4 regionals, 2 supers, SEC tournament title, one host, one CWS, one shirty year.
Agree. He will return but I have zero interest in our baseball program under Cohen. Will he pull a rabbit out of a hat next year? Only time will tell.
It is time for a change. We are a huge rebuilding project and I'm not sure even Cohen can get us out of this mess. But remember in year 7 that is all him who would've created this mess as missstatebaseball on twitter alludes to. Let's do this right though and wait a week or two before we do this.
Not that this is saying anything (and if it is, it's probably a strike against Cohen), but we were indisputably worse in 2010 than in 2015.
Jimmy Bragan was just a LITTLE bit worse, but not much. Overall
Not sure what the story was for his One year after Gregory and Polk I.
1975 16-24 (6-16 SEC)
Head Coach: Jimmy Bragan
Opponent Score W/L
WESTERN ILLINOIS 5-4 W
WESTERN ILLINOIS 2-0 W
WESTERN ILLINOIS 4-1 W
* VANDERBILT 1-2 L
* VANDERBILT 1-0 W
IOWA 11-8 W
SOUTHERN MISS 1-3 L
* AUBURN 8-9 L
* AUBURN 1-3 L
* AUBURN 0-3 L
LIVINGSTON 6-5 W
LIVINGSTON 4-3 W
ST. OLAF 3-2 W
ST. OLAF 4-0 W
* at Alabama 1-4 L
* at Alabama 4-3 W
* at Alabama 7-0 W
* at Alabama 0-2 L
* LSU 0-11 L
* LSU 0-11 L
* LSU 4-5 L
* LSU 0-3 L
MEMPHIS 9-2 W
MEMPHIS 0-4 L
* at Ole Miss 3-4 L
* at Ole Miss 1-8 L
* at Ole Miss 1-3 L
* at Ole Miss 4-5 L
* at LSU 3-4 L
* at LSU 2-3 L
* at LSU 1-5 L
* at LSU 0-8 L
* OLE MISS 2-0 W
* OLE MISS 4-3 W
* OLE MISS 5-4 W
* OLE MISS 4-12 L
* at Auburn 4-5 L
* at Auburn 0-6 L
* ALABAMA 0-1 L
* ALABAMA 4-0 W
Not sure what the story was for his One year after Gregory and Polk I.
1975 16-24 (6-16 SEC)
Head Coach: Jimmy Bragan
Opponent Score W/L
WESTERN ILLINOIS 5-4 W
WESTERN ILLINOIS 2-0 W
WESTERN ILLINOIS 4-1 W
* VANDERBILT 1-2 L
* VANDERBILT 1-0 W
IOWA 11-8 W
SOUTHERN MISS 1-3 L
* AUBURN 8-9 L
* AUBURN 1-3 L
* AUBURN 0-3 L
LIVINGSTON 6-5 W
LIVINGSTON 4-3 W
ST. OLAF 3-2 W
ST. OLAF 4-0 W
* at Alabama 1-4 L
* at Alabama 4-3 W
* at Alabama 7-0 W
* at Alabama 0-2 L
* LSU 0-11 L
* LSU 0-11 L
* LSU 4-5 L
* LSU 0-3 L
MEMPHIS 9-2 W
MEMPHIS 0-4 L
* at Ole Miss 3-4 L
* at Ole Miss 1-8 L
* at Ole Miss 1-3 L
* at Ole Miss 4-5 L
* at LSU 3-4 L
* at LSU 2-3 L
* at LSU 1-5 L
* at LSU 0-8 L
* OLE MISS 2-0 W
* OLE MISS 4-3 W
* OLE MISS 5-4 W
* OLE MISS 4-12 L
* at Auburn 4-5 L
* at Auburn 0-6 L
* ALABAMA 0-1 L
* ALABAMA 4-0 W
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Jimmy didn't care.
He was a MLB lifer who wanted to get back to the majors. That's what makes Cohen's performance so pitiful. He cares but can't do any better than this....
QUOTE=Lee Corso;1112147]Jimmy Bragan was just a LITTLE bit worse, but not much. Overall
Not sure what the story was for his One year after Gregory and Polk I.
1975 16-24 (6-16 SEC)
Head Coach: Jimmy Bragan
Opponent Score W/L
WESTERN ILLINOIS 5-4 W
WESTERN ILLINOIS 2-0 W
WESTERN ILLINOIS 4-1 W
* VANDERBILT 1-2 L
* VANDERBILT 1-0 W
IOWA 11-8 W
SOUTHERN MISS 1-3 L
* AUBURN 8-9 L
* AUBURN 1-3 L
* AUBURN 0-3 L
LIVINGSTON 6-5 W
LIVINGSTON 4-3 W
ST. OLAF 3-2 W
ST. OLAF 4-0 W
* at Alabama 1-4 L
* at Alabama 4-3 W
* at Alabama 7-0 W
* at Alabama 0-2 L
* LSU 0-11 L
* LSU 0-11 L
* LSU 4-5 L
* LSU 0-3 L
MEMPHIS 9-2 W
MEMPHIS 0-4 L
* at Ole Miss 3-4 L
* at Ole Miss 1-8 L
* at Ole Miss 1-3 L
* at Ole Miss 4-5 L
* at LSU 3-4 L
* at LSU 2-3 L
* at LSU 1-5 L
* at LSU 0-8 L
* OLE MISS 2-0 W
* OLE MISS 4-3 W
* OLE MISS 5-4 W
* OLE MISS 4-12 L
* at Auburn 4-5 L
* at Auburn 0-6 L
* ALABAMA 0-1 L
* ALABAMA 4-0 W[/QUOTE]
He was a MLB lifer who wanted to get back to the majors. That's what makes Cohen's performance so pitiful. He cares but can't do any better than this....
QUOTE=Lee Corso;1112147]Jimmy Bragan was just a LITTLE bit worse, but not much. Overall
Not sure what the story was for his One year after Gregory and Polk I.
1975 16-24 (6-16 SEC)
Head Coach: Jimmy Bragan
Opponent Score W/L
WESTERN ILLINOIS 5-4 W
WESTERN ILLINOIS 2-0 W
WESTERN ILLINOIS 4-1 W
* VANDERBILT 1-2 L
* VANDERBILT 1-0 W
IOWA 11-8 W
SOUTHERN MISS 1-3 L
* AUBURN 8-9 L
* AUBURN 1-3 L
* AUBURN 0-3 L
LIVINGSTON 6-5 W
LIVINGSTON 4-3 W
ST. OLAF 3-2 W
ST. OLAF 4-0 W
* at Alabama 1-4 L
* at Alabama 4-3 W
* at Alabama 7-0 W
* at Alabama 0-2 L
* LSU 0-11 L
* LSU 0-11 L
* LSU 4-5 L
* LSU 0-3 L
MEMPHIS 9-2 W
MEMPHIS 0-4 L
* at Ole Miss 3-4 L
* at Ole Miss 1-8 L
* at Ole Miss 1-3 L
* at Ole Miss 4-5 L
* at LSU 3-4 L
* at LSU 2-3 L
* at LSU 1-5 L
* at LSU 0-8 L
* OLE MISS 2-0 W
* OLE MISS 4-3 W
* OLE MISS 5-4 W
* OLE MISS 4-12 L
* at Auburn 4-5 L
* at Auburn 0-6 L
* ALABAMA 0-1 L
* ALABAMA 4-0 W[/QUOTE]
I dont
think its anything less of a rebuild than what he had to overcome from '08-'10. That was a craptastic three year stretch, and he managed to turn it into what he did the next 4 years.
think its anything less of a rebuild than what he had to overcome from '08-'10. That was a craptastic three year stretch, and he managed to turn it into what he did the next 4 years.
Well
that's your opinion. I'm of the opinion that teams that aren't currently elite programs will experience down years, sometimes.
that's your opinion. I'm of the opinion that teams that aren't currently elite programs will experience down years, sometimes.
This year is worse than a "down year." Mississippi and Arkansas aren't elite programs. Yet neither of them has had anything even approaching this year in the last 20 years. We can disagree over whether it's worth firing a coach over, but this wasn't just a "down year." This was a 17ing disaster from top to bottom.
Again,
just as the other day, I have stated multiple times that this year was terrible. To me it's the same. I don't know why you want to continue to put words into my mouth, alluding that I think otherwise. I don't really know what I can say further to get that point across. Also, your past prophecies with our baseball team aren't exactly a shining beacon to hang your hat on.
just as the other day, I have stated multiple times that this year was terrible. To me it's the same. I don't know why you want to continue to put words into my mouth, alluding that I think otherwise. I don't really know what I can say further to get that point across. Also, your past prophecies with our baseball team aren't exactly a shining beacon to hang your hat on.
Haha
and the truth comes out. This is what it's ultimately about, you being "right." The 2013 season completely wiped that out, pops. Sorry.
and the truth comes out. This is what it's ultimately about, you being "right." The 2013 season completely wiped that out, pops. Sorry.
Trust me, I was much happier when I was "wrong." Nobody has wanted John Cohen to succeed more than me. He was one of my favorite players back in the day, and he was my #1 choice to replace Polk II. But a lot of his coaching and recruiting decisions have been nothing short of mystifying. And as great as 2013 was (you will never hear me say that was a fluke), 1 good year in 7 just isn't good enough. The train went off the tracks this year and no one can blame it on Polk this time.
We have a vaginal fanbase. Same ones that think Sidney fighting in Hawaii made top story on Fox News for a month straight. I would purchase that shirt. Anyone got a link to buy one?
Losing SEC record over his seven years in Starkville. Take away the first two years (as some here insist) and he still has a losing SEC record over the past five years.
I am not for firing a coach for having one bad year at all. But I'm not for giving him a lifetime contract for getting us to Omaha one season either. Judge him on his full body of work..... He has been a loser whether you look at his full seven years or just the last five. We are in the bottom half of the SEC over the past five years and that's not acceptable to me. Apparently it is to some on here.
Cohen has always recruited very well and he's bringing in another great class next year. That's NOT the problem.
I feel certain he will be back in '16. We deserve better!
I am not for firing a coach for having one bad year at all. But I'm not for giving him a lifetime contract for getting us to Omaha one season either. Judge him on his full body of work..... He has been a loser whether you look at his full seven years or just the last five. We are in the bottom half of the SEC over the past five years and that's not acceptable to me. Apparently it is to some on here.
Cohen has always recruited very well and he's bringing in another great class next year. That's NOT the problem.
I feel certain he will be back in '16. We deserve better!
This
is where we disagree. I guess I'm of the opinion that we have had more than just 1 good season.
is where we disagree. I guess I'm of the opinion that we have had more than just 1 good season.
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