Is Malik the most influential recruit ever?

horshack.sixpack

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A friend suggested to me today that:

1) It was well known that Malik wanted to play at State but couldn't bring himself to play for Ray
2) Adidas wants Malik long term
3) Adidas teed up Howland for hire
4) SS knocked it out of the park with the hire
5) Therefore Malik got Ray fired

Did this happen? Let's hear it from the birds and such. I'm not sure I know of a case were a high school recruit had substantial influence over the firing of a coach and hiring of a replacement. I mean I realize that the Bears add add recruit's family members as "coaches" all the time with all their cheating ways...

PS: "a friend" does not imply credibility and I cannot define "well known" beyond stories of Horatio telling people, allegedly
 

121Josey

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Adidas could get Malik without State. Adidas could get any draftee it wanted. Adidas could get any college coach with its brand fired.
 

horshack.sixpack

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Adidas could get Malik without State. Adidas could get any draftee it wanted. Adidas could get any college coach with its brand fired.

Well, money and relationships pretty much drive the world. I just hadn't heard that specific theory and thought it was interesting.
 

DerHntr

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The best theory is that Stricklin looked at the lack of fans in the seats at the Hump, saw our W/L record, and had cigar boys telling him and Keenum they should pull the trigger now.
 

msstate7

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The best theory is that Stricklin looked at the lack of fans in the seats at the Hump, saw our W/L record, and had cigar boys telling him and Keenum they should pull the trigger now.

All that and Adidas probably promising howland behind the scenes
 
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I think this happens from time to time in sports in general.

A friend suggested to me today that:

1) It was well known that Malik wanted to play at State but couldn't bring himself to play for Ray
2) Adidas wants Malik long term
3) Adidas teed up Howland for hire
4) SS knocked it out of the park with the hire
5) Therefore Malik got Ray fired

Did this happen? Let's hear it from the birds and such. I'm not sure I know of a case were a high school recruit had substantial influence over the firing of a coach and hiring of a replacement. I mean I realize that the Bears add add recruit's family members as "coaches" all the time with all their cheating ways...

PS: "a friend" does not imply credibility and I cannot define "well known" beyond stories of Horatio telling people, allegedly
Just off the top of my head, OM hired Cutcliffe to land Eli, no?
 

patdog

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That's a pretty good theory Der. Empty seats will get a coach fired as fast as anything else will.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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Ark hired Malzahn to get Mustain, USM hired Petals coach to get Alford etc. I'm sure there are many more.
 

MSUDawg25

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No one can convince me that we or some representative of us hadn't already gotten a "verbal" agreement to take the job from Howland. It was just a matter of dropping the hammer while he was still available and not having to duke it out with any of the other schools that were inevitably going to have vacancies. Then with Howland's proven record of putting guys in the league, you have a real good shot of bringing the legacy recruit home. But you still would have jumped at the chance to hire Howland even if Horatio never had any kids to begin with. I doubt Stricklins wanted any part of a real coaching search if we had waited a year or two to pull the trigger.
 

dannyripms

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I was talking to a guy at work yesterday and he happens to be a bear. All I said was did you hear about our new recruit. Dude got mad. He started throwing up Shane patterson, he said when we got him you didn't hear us talking smack. I'm like seriously dude, that's all I've heard. Anyways long story short, you guys description about bear fans are dead on.
 
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