The Dan Jones drama has given us this.

[AFDawg]

Make of it what you will.

 

[DamnGoodDawg]

Dr jones would have to find said gamma knife first.

 

[Shamoan]

sounds like a ***** problem. 17 ole miss and 17 the people that care about this ****.

 

[champdawg.sixpack]

I think they should hire Doc Fogelsong....pay back be a *****

 

[CooterDavenport]

Uh, okay. 17 you too.

 

[RebelBruiser]

You might want to pay attention. If we get our way, you'll be starting the process to put together your own Board of Trustees for self-governance soon.

That's the end game I'm hoping to see. I would think MSU folks would like that too. We need more autonomy in our university system. What we have is akin to having one School Board in Jackson, MS that has to oversee every school district in the state, select all the superintendents, and approve all large contracts and all other administrator hires.

There is no reason we can't/shouldn't have more localized control. Unencumbered, I think both our universities have a lot more that we can accomplish and a lot more room to grow and advance.

 

[DamnGoodDawg]

Why should we be upset that yall came up on the short end of the stick for once? 17 Jones and your university. I worked at that ******** for 9 years. It needs to be taken awAy and placed in competent hands to govern. The IHS has issues but disbanding it because yall have some pissed off stooges is a stupid knee jerk response to a problem that needs adequate time to sort out

 

[Hammer Down]

I agree, and both MSU and Ole Miss would flourish. Would be the final separation/welfare-cord-cut from USM and all the others.

But in that same vein, UMMC should be separate from Ole Miss. You will not agree with that though, you only want what is best for Ole Miss, not the state and other alumi everywhere else.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I'm all for a little more freedom from the IHL but Dan Jones put himself in a bad situation that resulted in his firing. I know there's a political blame game going on but there's more to it than that.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

As soon as the Vet school is taken away from State...

 

[KurtRambis4]

That's

got some racists lines in there that offend me.

 

[engie]

As soon as the Vet school is taken away from State...

Vet school is in Starkville at on our campus. Quite different than a medical center 3 hours away from Oxford that has, in reality, been Ole Miss in name only for a long time now.

 

[GloryDawg]

I don't care how good sports have gotten since the man has been at OLe Miss. If he really missed managed money at UMC turning a blind eye to 1000's of dollars being spent on equitment that was never going to be used than he needed to be fired. If he was doing that kind of stuff at UMC than he probably doing it at Ole Miss.

 

[DamnGoodDawg]

I wasn't aware the vet school was missing a $20,000,000 gamma knife.

 

[DamnGoodDawg]

I really miss the days when they all wanted him fired for taking away their tradishuns.

 

[DancingRabbit]

As I said earlier, it's all about who's ox is being gored.

What was the Ole Miss family saying when Toyota was steered away from two megasites in the golden triangle (and Sara Lee was allowed to pack up and leave town)? Slapping backs and saying go Haley.

As soon as the Vet school is taken away from State...

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

Agreed, I thought my sarcasm was obvious

It seems MSU and OM are the only schools in the SEC who can't hire their own employees.

 

[Hammer Down]

Could not agree more. Ole Miss elite are all about some manipulation. Complete stupidity, fighting over scraps like that. And now the sheep like Rebelbruiser are talking about how we should "unite". Give me a break. Just because I agree that the IHL is useless does not mean I want to unite with the most hateful fanbase in the US of A. Let's keep that clear line drawn.

GTR say the hell with them and went out and got Joe Max Higgins. Suck on that.

 

[Hammer Down]

I don't care how good sports have gotten since the man has been at OLe Miss. If he really missed managed money at UMC turning a blind eye to 1000's of dollars being spent on equitment that was never going to be used than he needed to be fired. If he was doing that kind of stuff at UMC than he probably doing it at Ole Miss.

This, and the press conference, is literally ALL they care about up there. You think they give 2 flying elbows about racial equality? Heck no, they want football players.

 

[RebelBruiser]

I wasn't aware the vet school was missing a $20,000,000 gamma knife.

Neither is the med school.

Then again, pretty much every reason the IHL came up with for firing Jones was either disproven by the IHL, or was simply the result of inefficiency that comes with using out-dated systems, systems that are currently being replaced to fix those exact issues.

Point being, they really had no reason to let Jones go. They could find as much, or more, at every other university in the state if they wanted to. It's the nature of having a large university (or business). You're going to have inefficiency and/or out-dated systems/processes somewhere. If CEOs got fired every time inefficient or out-dated processes were discovered, there wouldn't be any CEOs to be had.

I'm sure you haven't been following this as closely as I have, but it sounds like they're reversing course on Jones in a last ditch attempt to try to keep the legislature from cutting off their heads. I'm hoping the legislature pulls the trigger anyway. The IHL has been out-dated for a while, and this one decision isn't the only time they've been overly meddlesome. That nice baseball stadium you have in your long-term plans. It has to go through the IHL, and if they feel it's unnecessary, you aren't doing it to that scale, whether you want to or not.

I personally think that should be an MSU decision and an MSU decision alone. If you can get the funding to do it, have at it.

 

[NIC.sixpack]

I agree that there are differences between the vet school and UMMC. The only real similarity is this: http://www.cvm.msstate.edu/aerc And that isn't reasonably comparable. MSU doesn't have anything like UMMC anywhere. That isn't a dig, so don't misconstrue what I'm saying.

Regardless, I'm curious about the possibility of accreditation and legal issues that would involve stripping UMMC from Ole Miss. I'm not aware of any precedent to support that, and I don't know if there is even a legal basis for that to happen. I highly doubt that it would be a simple process. And Ole Miss isn't about to let that happen without a fight. The legal battle could easily last a decade.

 

[Hammer Down]

You are in Defcon 8 Concern Troll mode.

 

[JungRebel]

The "they" strikes again.

 

[Hammer Down]

I deal in the macro, since that is what we are talking about. "They" is 50%+ of your fanbase. Real talk. Save the, "I am not like that" for someone who cares.

ETA: I know you will side-step my point and attempt to direct the argument to the assumption that most of our fanbase is obsessed with Ole Miss. Save your time, since I would probably agree with you.

 

[JungRebel]

Make up some more statistics and generalizations. You could be a professor of humanities or psychoanalysis.

ETA: Literally.**

 

[BiscuitEater]

Dan Jones ..

I really miss the days when they all wanted him fired for taking away their tradishuns.

returns and becomes 'bullet proof' .. Name 'Ole Miss' removed from everything on Campus .. GOB network explodes in anger .. ********* implodes **

 

[BiscuitEater]

They cuss their GOB Network ..

What was the Ole Miss family saying when Toyota was steered away from two megasites in the golden triangle (and Sara Lee was allowed to pack up and leave town)? Slapping backs and saying go Haley.

yet worship it at the same time. And, then they complain when it comes around and bites them in the a**.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Instead of daffodils, it'll be trees...

 

[Hammer Down]

You all should have stood up to that PC nonsense. The loss of Col Reb was simply a shame, bunch of chickens you are. I can understand some of the changes, but taking the mascot and replacing with a dang bear was laughable.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

So when MSU is stuck with Fogelsong after everyone affiliated with MSU wanted Keenum, the IHL was ok. When Fogelsong was dividing the MSU facility and alumni, it was hilarious to UM folks.

ohhh but now it is best for UM people and MSU people to join hands, pull together, and help make a change since now it's UM's chain being yanked.

Fix your own damn problem like MSU had to and stop giving us this whole "help us and it will eventually help yourself" ********.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Well

you certainly can never accuse OM clowns of being hypocrites*****

 

[Hammer Down]

Funny enough Foglesong turned out to be a great thing for MSU in the long run. Double whammy for them. Croom, Stansbury and Raffo would be our 3 coaches probably still to this day.

 

[GloryDawg]

Neither is the med school.

Then again, pretty much every reason the IHL came up with for firing Jones was either disproven by the IHL, or was simply the result of inefficiency that comes with using out-dated systems, systems that are currently being replaced to fix those exact issues.

Point being, they really had no reason to let Jones go. They could find as much, or more, at every other university in the state if they wanted to. It's the nature of having a large university (or business). You're going to have inefficiency and/or out-dated systems/processes somewhere. If CEOs got fired every time inefficient or out-dated processes were discovered, there wouldn't be any CEOs to be had.

I'm sure you haven't been following this as closely as I have, but it sounds like they're reversing course on Jones in a last ditch attempt to try to keep the legislature from cutting off their heads. I'm hoping the legislature pulls the trigger anyway. The IHL has been out-dated for a while, and this one decision isn't the only time they've been overly meddlesome. That nice baseball stadium you have in your long-term plans. It has to go through the IHL, and if they feel it's unnecessary, you aren't doing it to that scale, whether you want to or not.

I personally think that should be an MSU decision and an MSU decision alone. If you can get the funding to do it, have at it.

Stick you head in the sand all you want I would bet you my last dollars there are some internal auditors at ole Miss this week makingsure no funny money business took place up there. There is a reason why the faculty and staff is so unified against the firing. The days of spending money like it was their birthday id coming to an end. The college board I am sure dotted all their I’s and crossed their T’s before letting the guy go.<o></o

Personally I don't care what goes on at Ole MIss or UMC but I do pay, income tax, buy car tags and pay sales tax. I am pretty sure some of my money is going to Ole Miss.