UAB head coach

dannyripms

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Sep 3, 2013
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Do we need to be going after this guy now or wait another year? Hopefully he is still there
 

Uncle Ruckus

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For football? Where would we put him? He have a HC and a DC. I'm happy with our defensive staff, especially if Townsend's recruiting potential comes to life while he's still here.
 

seshomoru

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He's 26-24 in CUSA over his three years.

They got hot and won a CUSA tourney that no longer has Memphis (even though Memphis isn't what they used to be). They have losses to FAU (9-20) and Rice (12-20). This was an upset, not an anointing of a coaching wizard. Ray is terrible, but don't get stupid over some guy you just heard about because they won one game.
 

Hammer Down

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Jul 19, 2014
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His whole team is returning next year, so I am betting that is when he will jump ship, assuming they are good which most expect them to be.
 

thunderclap

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They got hot and won a CUSA tourney that no longer has Memphis (even though Memphis isn't what they used to be). They have losses to FAU (9-20) and Rice (12-20). This was an upset, not an anointing of a coaching wizard. Ray is terrible, but don't get stupid over some guy you just heard about because they won one game.

That's a lot more wins than Ray had when peckerhead hired him.
 

olblue.sixpack

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They got hot and won a CUSA tourney that no longer has Memphis (even though Memphis isn't what they used to be). They have losses to FAU (9-20) and Rice (12-20). This was an upset, not an anointing of a coaching wizard. Ray is terrible, but don't get stupid over some guy you just heard about because they won one game.

The tournament hype has lead to a lot of bad hires at a lot of different places. Stan Heath at Arkansas comes to mind. My all time favorite was Darren Horn. He was on the hot seat at WKU then his after his team made it to the NCAA's, a kid hits a half court prayer to get him into the Sweet 16 and next thing you know, South Carolina couldn't live without him. Now they can.

Andy Enfield may be the next big bust. 41-28 at Florida Gulf Coast got him $1.5 million a year at USC. That $1.5 million a year has gotten USC 5-31 in the conference.
 

WrapItDog

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Aug 23, 2012
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Bama has set in motion operation Bombing Pearl . The UAB BBall program will be shut down and the coach and players transferred to Tuscaloosa**
 

kired

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Aug 22, 2008
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He has as many tournament wins as MSU does in the past decade --- I say sign him up. I don't see how he could be any worse than what we have now.
 

Bulldogg31

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Coach Haase at UAB out recruited our coach, as well as Stan Heath, for William "Ha-Ha" Lee, the best of the young guns for UAB. He was Gatorade Player of the year, Mr Basketball in AL, etc. with offers from Bama, us, Auburn, and LSU.

Haase said the night Lee called to commit the coach broke down crying on the phone, with his young daughter in the room, because he recognized what a difference maker Lee would be to the program. I'd be fine hiring a recruiter like that.
 

Hammer Down

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The tournament hype has lead to a lot of bad hires at a lot of different places.
I think you can lump the anti-Stans crowd into that group of idiots - essentially the group that believes tournament hype is the end-all be-all.
 

jakldawg

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Georgia State's coach! FIRST!! DIBS!!!

This is what I was looking forward to these opening rounds.
I was thinking it'd hold off until Saturday evening.
Because then you have that big ol' sample size of 2 (maybe 3 if you count catching the last half of that random one-bid-conference's championship game when HOT COACH X hit your radar).
Just give some double-digit seed that Sweet 16 spot and we can REALLY watch the "LET'S HIRE THIS GUY NOW" fly.
 
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olblue.sixpack

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This is what I was looking forward to these opening rounds.
I was thinking it'd hold off until Saturday evening.
Because then you have that big ol' sample size of 2 (maybe 3 if you count catching the last half of that random one-bid-conference's championship game when HOT COACH X hit your radar).
Just give some double-digit seed that Sweet 16 spot and we can REALLY watch the "LET'S HIRE THIS GUY NOW" fly.

He's off limits until he gets out of that boot.
 

jakldawg

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May 1, 2006
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But his record in the boot is literally perfect! OR DO YOU NOT LIKE FACTS?!?!?!!!1!
 

BulldogBlitz

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i believe some ...er most have completely over valued our program. no reason for the uab coach to consider us. hes in the ncaa and we are smoldering.
 

engie

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Are you going to do this for every upset?

Legit potential future candidates still in tourney imo:
Northern Iowa
Buffalo
Dayton
Stephen F Austin

That I can think of off the top of my head
 
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Bulldogg31

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Are you going to do this for every upset?

Legit potential future candidates still in tourney imo:
Northern Iowa
Buffalo
Dayton
Stephen F Austin

That I can think of off the top of my head

You can take Dayton's coach (Archie Miller) off your list. Apparently he already makes plenty of money and would never consider us. At least that's what I'm told every time I bring his name up.
 

engie

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You can take Dayton's coach (Archie Miller) off your list. Apparently he already makes plenty of money and would never consider us. At least that's what I'm told every time I bring his name up.

We can double what they can pay him...

SEC money his going to have to talk next time we hire... And hopefully the conference will be more attractive overall by then...
 

Bulldogg31

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We can double what they can pay him...

SEC money his going to have to talk next time we hire... And hopefully the conference will be more attractive overall by then...

I agree on the money...pay whatever it takes, but even non-SEC, non-MSU people agree that Miller wouldn't take a job like State, or even Bama for that matter. Evidently he sees his next step as much bigger.
 

BulldogBlitz

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They got hot and won a CUSA tourney that no longer has Memphis (even though Memphis isn't what they used to be). They have losses to FAU (9-20) and Rice (12-20). This was an upset, not an anointing of a coaching wizard. Ray is terrible, but don't get stupid over some guy you just heard about because they won one game.


the last time memphis was what they used to be was when they had coach cal and were guilty of rules infarctions. ;>

unless you were referring to dana kirk and keith lee era.

march madness makes for two things.... coaches to get hired off and players to get sniffs in the NBA who should never. what's his name that hit the game winner v. ole miss got quite a few years run off of a very limited skill set.
 

patdog

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May 28, 2007
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You'd think people would learn that a couple of tournament wins doesn't make someone a good coach.
 

Seinfeld

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Nov 30, 2006
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I agree with this. When it comes to basketball, it's nowhere near the same playing field as SEC football. We can't beat our chests with gameday crowds, recruiting benefits, TV exposure, and facilities. Maybe MSU's specific brand new practice facility is better than a lot of ones out there, but as a whole, the SEC just doesn't haven't the same advantages to offer in basketball that it does in football.

I say all that to say that if we're serious about wanting to get MSU basketball back to where we'd all like it to be, it's time to open up the checkbook during the next hiring process.
 

mstateglfr

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Ben Jacobson is a legit potential future candidate? How so?

Are you going to do this for every upset?

Legit potential future candidates still in tourney imo:
Northern Iowa
Buffalo
Dayton
Stephen F Austin

That I can think of off the top of my head


resume-

- grew up in North Dakota and stayed in North Dakota to play college ball.
- began coaching career in North Dakota
- moved to Iowa to continue coaching career
- took over as head coach of the same school he had been an assistant at
- been at school in Iowa for 14 years now
- 2x MVC coach of the year
- didn't consider jumping to UofIowa when they were needing a new coach
- turned down offers after the Sweet16 run in '10
- been head coach at the school in Iowa for 9 seasons now, having taken team to Sweet 16 and now having the team with the highest ranking in school history
- finished 3rd or better in conference play for the last 7 seasons straight




Lemme know where in his resume/history you can find reason to think he is a LEGIT potential future coach for Mississippi State. A guy who grew up and played in ND, who has been in a small town IA university setting for 14 years now, who has turned down other high major options, and who still even lives in the same house he did when he was an assistant coach- you think there is a legit chance this guy is going to uproot his family and start all over in Mississippi?


The only thing that could pull him away for another job right now is money. He makes something like $600K right now, based off the last contract he signed. Yet he has passed on high major salary opportunities already.
If he did leave, why would it be for a school in an entirely different part of the country where he has no roots, contacts, or experience?
What about any of this makes you think- legit potential future MSU coach?
 
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