For a while it had been known that Duren

[Blueaz]

was probably not UK.
Why then, is this suddenly a massive loss for Calipari?
You guys come out like roaches when anything not positive happens.

How can you really cheer a program, but at the same time be so against the coach?

I mean, I used to rip Stoops a lot; a whole lot...but I always hoped he would turn the program around...

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

If he was probably not UK, Cal and UK sure wasted a lot of time then. Either Cal felt he had a shot or he willingly wasted time.

Don't think Cal would do that. I'm expecting wherever Duren goes tomorrow, it also includes him reclassing to '21. I think that is the reason Cal and staff went after him so much.

 

[crxohio]

 

[crxohio]

He is as close to chris webber as we have seen. Atleast at that age. Just fyi.

 

[akaukswoosh]

was probably not UK.
Why then, is this suddenly a massive loss for Calipari?
You guys come out like roaches when anything not positive happens.

How can you really cheer a program, but at the same time be so against the coach?

I mean, I used to rip Stoops a lot; a whole lot...but I always hoped he would turn the program around...

Duren looked unlikely from the start for UK to me. As far as I‘m concerned, if you have the oldest and deepest team of the Cal era and bring in a young reclassified kid late, in August, you also risk disturbing what seems to be very good karma with this team.

 

[crxohio]

If he was probably not UK, Cal and UK sure wasted a lot of time then. Either Cal felt he had a shot or he willingly wasted time.

Don't think Cal would do that. I'm expecting wherever Duren goes tomorrow, it also includes him reclassing to '21. I think that is the reason Cal and staff went after him so much.

Exactly. Duren dont play tru 5. It was a good gamble!

 

[cats#1again]

He's nowhere near Chris weber. Doesn't have the handle or mobility. More of a big man

 

[Blueaz]

If he was probably not UK, Cal and UK sure wasted a lot of time then. Either Cal felt he had a shot or he willingly wasted time.

Don't think Cal would do that. I'm expecting wherever Duren goes tomorrow, it also includes him reclassing to '21. I think that is the reason Cal and staff went after him so much.

Cal and UK has A SHOT at 90% of the kids out there. So does Duke... and many other hat schools.
Perspective...I’ve got “a good shot” at banging my hot 26 year old asst. but ...

 

[crxohio]

He's nowhere near Chris weber. Doesn't have the handle or mobility. More of a big ma

He somewhat more a big man than webber. But not tremendously. I watched webber as a kid. I wouldn't call him a excellent handle big man until late in nba career. They similar. Just said close as we seen to style recently. The bam comparison is off. Duren isnt a high flyer and nor was webber. They love to work the middle, but also nice fade moves. And some open court point forward abilities. Webber in high school turn ball over alot in those situations, he just got better and better.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Cal and UK has A SHOT at 90% of the kids out there. So does Duke... and many other hat schools.
Perspective...I’ve got “a good shot” at banging my hot 26 year old asst. but ...

Cal and UK followed this kid around liked the pied piper. I's day they were doing so because they felt they had a real shot. If not, then I would be real disappointed in them wasting that much time.

The weird one for me was Cal offering the Flipkowski kid. That one was definitely a wasted offer.

 

[crxohio]

Cal and UK followed this kid around liked the pied piper. I's day they were doing so because they felt they had a real shot. If not, then I would be real disappointed in them wasting that much time.

The weird one for me was Cal offering the Flipkowski kid. That one was definitely a wasted offer.

I think that was a tactic played back. That puts duke with a center, and whitehead pf in duke's style. They never have tru pf's. Crowded the situation slightly. To help in lively situation imo. Also with webber. Fab 5 or nba he wasnt the tru 5. He also walked alot. Remember?

 

[Sparky285]

was probably not UK.
Why then, is this suddenly a massive loss for Calipari?
You guys come out like roaches when anything not positive happens.

How can you really cheer a program, but at the same time be so against the coach?

I mean, I used to rip Stoops a lot; a whole lot...but I always hoped he would turn the program around...

Why is it a massive loss for Cal?

Were you in a coma a month ago when Cal completely blew off and turned down an all-american center?

If Cal doesn’t get Duren, that will be viewed as one of the biggest boneheaded *** decisions ever made by a UK coach.

Spare me the drivel about playing back to the basket bigs or didn’t want to recruit over anybody with Kofi (while actively recruiting over everybody with Duren)

 

[Flipflopsandsocks]

He is as close to chris webber as we have seen. Atleast at that age. Just fyi.

Not even close.

 

[WildcatfaninOhio]

Cal and UK has A SHOT at 90% of the kids out there. So does Duke... and many other hat schools.
Perspective...I’ve got “a good shot” at banging my hot 26 year old asst. but ...

Pics of the asst?

 

[MdWIldcat55]

Cal didn’t want Cockburn for obvious reasons: He structured a team around the perimeter: Grady, Washington, Fredrick, Mintz, Wheeler, Allen. He had a solid frontcourt to complement that in Oscar, Toppin, Brooks, Collins and Hopkins. You can’t suddenly drop an aircraft carrier into that mix, a guy who needs to touch the ball in the paint every possession, without totally disrupting the team.

Duren was worth taking a shot at because he can play in the system Cal has built. But he apparently wants to go where he can be Anthony Edwards. It’s a loss but Oscar, Toppin, Brooks, Collins, Hopkins, Ware is a very capable frontcourt for a team built around the backcourt.

Why are people coming out of the woodwork to act like this is a program killing setback?

Most are phonies who ALWAYS wish Kentucky ill because their programs are in the Wildcat shadow and they are jealous. Others are just the bitter malcontents you find in any collection of humans. There seem to be more here, but it’s not uncommon in life.

 

[AGEE11]

Cal didn’t want Cockburn for obvious reasons: He structured a team around the perimeter: Grady, Washington, Fredrick, Mintz, Wheeler, Allen. He had a solid frontcourt to complement that in Oscar, Toppin, Brooks, Collins and Hopkins. You can’t suddenly drop an aircraft carrier into that mix, a guy who needs to touch the ball in the paint every possession, without totally disrupting the team.

Duren was worth taking a shot because he can play in the system Cal had built. But he apparently wants to go where he can be Anthony Edwards. It’s a loss but Oscar, Toppin, Brooks, Collins, Hopkins, Ware is a very capable frontcourt for a team built around the backcourt.

Why are people coming out of the woodwork to act like this is a program killing setback?

Most are phonies who ALWAYS wish Kentucky ill because their programs are in the Wildcat shadow and they are jealous. Others are just the bitter malcontents you find in any collection of humans. There seem to be more here, but it’s not uncommon in life.

/endthread

 

[yoshukai]

He is as close to chris webber as we have seen. Atleast at that age. Just fyi.

Well then , who wants a kid that doesn’t even keep track of how many timeouts he has left anyway !!

 

[yoshukai]

Cal and UK has A SHOT at 90% of the kids out there. So does Duke... and many other hat schools.
Perspective...I’ve got “a good shot” at banging my hot 26 year old asst. but ...

Well now you’re just exaggerating. You don’t really have that good of a shot at banging her . Even if you did she’d just show up on TV twenty years later with a sexual harassment or rape charge .

 

[chroix]

If you live and die with the decisions of teenagers you’re going to die a lot more than you’ll live.

 

[track42]

So I guess Cal was clueless and wasted time recruiting him as hard as anyone?

 

[Cobb4uk_rivals287622]

If he was probably not UK, Cal and UK sure wasted a lot of time then. Either Cal felt he had a shot or he willingly wasted time.

Don't think Cal would do that. I'm expecting wherever Duren goes tomorrow, it also includes him reclassing to '21. I think that is the reason Cal and staff went after him so much.

Dam if you do, dam if you don't. No matter what Cal does there are certain ones that want be pleased. During is NOT a make or break player for this team.

 

[chroix]

I’d like to state for the record that I am in no way related to crxohio despite our usernames consisting of entirely the same letters.

 

[track42]

Dam if you do, dam if you don't. No matter what Cal does there are certain ones that want be pleased. During is NOT a make or break player for this team.

The number one player in the country is not a make or break type player?Okay.

 

[kyledakota3]

Are we really going to downplay him because he isn't coming here lol?I convinced myself that we were better off without Cade last season because he was selfish.Sometimes it's easy to blind ourselves.

 

[bnewt]

was probably not UK.
Why then, is this suddenly a massive loss for Calipari?
You guys come out like roaches when anything not positive happens.

How can you really cheer a program, but at the same time be so against the coach?

I mean, I used to rip Stoops a lot; a whole lot...but I always hoped he would turn the program around...

Because like so many others uk was the supposed leader but again couldn't close the deal

 

[SmedMoley]

I’d like to state for the record that I am in no way related to crxohio despite our usernames consisting of entirely the same letters.

How come corn yellow I seen sasquatch once beans are brown Duren big I think cheese the Dale Brown then car drove past need have Cal faith

 

[GonzoCat90]

Because like so many others uk was the supposed leader but again couldn't close the deal

Maybe stop listening to the people telling you that instead of being mad about things that aren't true.

 

[TopCatCal]

Why is it a massive loss for Cal?

Were you in a coma a month ago when Cal completely blew off and turned down an all-american center?

If Cal doesn’t get Duren, that will be viewed as one of the biggest boneheaded *** decisions ever made by a UK coach.

Spare me the drivel about playing back to the basket bigs or didn’t want to recruit over anybody with Kofi (while actively recruiting over everybody with Duren)

You are 100% right about that. I've got to believe that for Calipari to turn down a 7'0" 285 pound All-American that's unstoppable within 7 or 8 feet of the basket. For Calipari to turn him down. You've got to think that not only has Duren told Cal he's coming to UK. But he's already signed the scholarship papers. If not then John Calipari is an absolute moron.

 

[Panthur]

If people are frustrated it’s because just like every other season since ‘15 we weren’t even close to being in a real negotiating position with any of the actual class leaders. Then that situation got a little exacerbated when as usual all kinds of rumors floated around from people saying they knew that we were really the secret leader somehow or secret co-leader.

Why wouldn’t people be frustrated? This is all the result of a staff that was focused on the wrong things for a really long time. The new staff has shown signs of being able to turn that around but it can’t happen overnight. In the meantime you either accept that lots of fans still have some pretty legitimate gripes about the path the old staff left us on or you’re living in your own little fantasy world.

 

[BigBlueJebus]

This thread is funny because none of you have a clue what this kid is doing.

 

[Blueaz]

Because like so many others uk was the supposed leader but again couldn't close the deal

when was UK the leader? I never saw that from ANYONE that actually has recruiting knowledge.

 

[Blueaz]

Well now you’re just exaggerating. You don’t really have that good of a shot at banging her . Even if you did she’d just show up on TV twenty years later with a sexual harassment or rape charge .

i think it is better than 50/50...

at may age, that's almost a guarantee (in my mind)

 

[Blueaz]

If people are frustrated it’s because just like every other season since ‘15 we weren’t even close to being in a real negotiating position with any of the actual class leaders. Then that situation got a little exacerbated when as usual all kinds of rumors floated around from people saying they knew that we were really the secret leader somehow or secret co-leader.

Why wouldn’t people be frustrated? This is all the result of a staff that was focused on the wrong things for a really long time. The new staff has shown signs of being able to turn that around but it can’t happen overnight. In the meantime you either accept that lots of fans still have some pretty legitimate gripes about the path the old staff left us on or you’re living in your own little fantasy world.

frustration does not equal massive loss/setback.
If your not frustrated after last season, you're not a fan... everyone is frustrated

 

[Dablueman]

He's nowhere near Chris weber. Doesn't have the handle or mobility. More of a big man

A slightly better Bam is what I see

 

[Blueaz]

Are we really going to downplay him because he isn't coming here lol?I convinced myself that we were better off without Cade last season because he was selfish.Sometimes it's easy to blind ourselves.

who is downplaying his abilities?

 

[Sparky285]

A slightly better Bam is what I see

I’ve liked my Julius Randle comparison and I’m sticking to it!

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

i think it is better than 50/50...

at may age, that's almost a guarantee (in my mind)

If you're both single, why don't you invite her out for a nice dinner and take a chance at something more.

 

[Yardeth]

Cal and UK has A SHOT at 90% of the kids out there. So does Duke... and many other hat schools.
Perspective...I’ve got “a good shot” at banging my hot 26 year old asst. but ...

Need pictures or we don’t believe you!

 

[crxohio]

. im sorry i cant see the non similarity's, not even 1 bit. Not ever!.

 

[calismyhero]

If he comes here then great. If he doesn’t, it’s his loss and we move on. Why would it be a great disappointment? Love to have him like I love to have a fat, juicy steak dinner and a bourbon and Coke but if that’s not available then ribs and chicken are just as good. It’s all about perspective.