Fire his ***
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Tonight was brutal. Really bad performance. What's disheartening is we have a long, long way to go.
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Don't visit ED with that kind of attitude. Won't leave there in one piece. Coach 34 insists Ray gets another year .. except 'if' Ray is involved in a felony of some sort.
Don't visit ED with that kind of attitude. Won't leave there in one piece. Coach 34 insists Ray gets another year .. except 'if' Ray is involved in a felony of some sort.
One thing I'll take as a positive from this game is Houston continuing to get better. Sword and Houston could be a really good combination next season
I thought you guys were joking because I never visit, so I ventured over and sure enough the Elite one predicts two more years of Ray and has a five page diatribe, he started, trouncing on Stansbury's tenure to take the focus off Ray's failure.
You boys should expect as much from a guy who started his own page to let him expound his obsession with a former coach that is still so strong he still calls Stan, Stands... Much like a 6th grader would.
You boys should expect as much from a guy who started his own page to let him expound his obsession with a former coach that is still so strong he still calls Stan, Stands... Much like a 6th grader would.
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Like it or not, assuming Ray survives this year, he will likely be here two more. There is a good chance we will be just improved enough and senior laden to sniff postseason play next year. Then the next year, the bottom will fall out. Like Croom with no Pegues, there will be no more Sword to carry us.
Ray will probably be back, but that decision should not be made yet. If you are the AD, you have to evaluate everything after these last 3 games. I would have a list of my top 5 candidates and if we lose the last 3 games in the same fashion we lost tonight I would reach out and gauge interest. Bring your best offer to the table. If there are no takers, you give Ray one more year. But if you can land a guy like Michael White, you need to make a move.
Coach had gone full on Gene's page circa Croom years and mstate7 is blindly pumping as much sunshine as a person possibly can. It is sad.
What's the sunshine I'm pumping? I've said over and over that im not sold ray can get us where we need to be. I do think we looked much better the last 3 games until we bombed again today. In the end, I just want to win and I don't care who the coach is.
I've been in this camp for some time now, but I'm now reconsidering. The improvements for Ware, Thomas and Ready have really been minimal. Sword has gotten better in ways but he's also not being forced to play the point like he was two years ago. Black and Ndoye would have to make quantum leaps to become legitimate SEC players. Daniels is a space filler and unless we're talking about elite freshmen like Kentucky and Duke pull in, I don't want to hear that Tookie and Weatherspoon are going to make us much better. Zuppardo? Who knows. Is he the guy that averaged 1 pg at powerhouse Arkansas State (meaning that he probably didn't have any high major offers) or the JUCO star who averaged 15. Plus he's coming off a knee injury, so there's that. I am at the point that I can say losing Bloodman and Roq will make us better.
Unfortunately for Ray I can't imagine us improving enough to improve the 100ish RPI spots it would take to be in the NIT and as nice a guy as he seems to be I think we'll be left with no choice but to fire him a year from now.
Unfortunately for Ray I can't imagine us improving enough to improve the 100ish RPI spots it would take to be in the NIT and as nice a guy as he seems to be I think we'll be left with no choice but to fire him a year from now.
Couldn't agree with this more. I think the guys coming in next year will be his best class but they won't be enough. There just has not been enough improvement out of the talent he's cosched for 3 years.
Yep, I haven't seen anything to give me more expectations for next year. If we don't make the post season, it won't surprise me at all. Our guys don't seem like they have developed at any phase of the game. It's hard to reconcile.
You are probably right, but what standard do we have for this program now? A coach could conceivably save his job by taking a group of players through their senior year and not being terrible in the last year? I hope that does not turn out to be the case. No wonder so many fans have lost interest.
What concerns me is how little production we get out of any player signed by Ray. What happens when its only his players.
What concerns me is how little production we get out of any player signed by Ray. What happens when its only his players.
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I would be perfectly fine letting him go after this season. He's done nothing to earn another year but I believe he was promised 4 when he took the job.
Ready is the only player he has signed that has made a significant contribution. But the kid from Velma Jackson is a very good player. I seen him play against Malik earlier this year and he gave Malik everything he wanted and more. I do look forward to seeing him next year but he's not gonna save the season. It will still be a dud.
Weatherspoon... He's 1-1 vs callaway this year. Pretty sure his brother will be a good prospect too
^^^^THIS^^^
He wouldn't have redshirted Daniels if he wasn't guaranteed 4 years. Maybe the guarantee is the reason we are still where we are.
That was the case with Richard Williams, only his "not terrible" equated to winning the SEC.
I never like to lose and I want every coach to be a success, but if Ray bombs enough next year to get fired, I won't shed a tear.
Clicks = $$$$. And the two primary sources of clicks for that board are probably Stansbury and Ole Miss. So two things Coach hates the most are lining his pockets now.
thankfully, i have been blissfully unaware of that board until now. not that i give a carp what his exodus was from here. ive clicked, and it seems like it is the posters from here +him....same whining, same interwebs.
No kidding. Not to mention that even if we had won the three games that are currently horrible losses for us, we'd still be sitting at 15-14 right now with virtually no prayer of even making the NIT. While this team is undoubtedly improved from the last two abysmal seasons, it's still not very good at all and I'm far from convinced that two decent freshmen are going to change that next year.
That said, I see virtually zero upside to letting Ray go at this point. The Hump's already empty, basketball revenue has already fallen off a cliff, and bringing in anybody new for next season would essentially be starting back at square one with a new four year plan. Not saying that there's not any argument for it at all, but I'll be shocked if Scott doesn't let Ray play out his 4th year with an NCAA bid or bust provision.
That said, I see virtually zero upside to letting Ray go at this point. The Hump's already empty, basketball revenue has already fallen off a cliff, and bringing in anybody new for next season would essentially be starting back at square one with a new four year plan. Not saying that there's not any argument for it at all, but I'll be shocked if Scott doesn't let Ray play out his 4th year with an NCAA bid or bust provision.
I think he gets next year, but I hope I am wrong. It has become the new sunshine pumping bball board.
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