Sigh here comes the Rick Ray haters.

Rayburn8

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Feb 26, 2013
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I don't know whether he should stay or not. I'm undecided. However, if your gonna hate Rick Ray do it when we win and lose. Don't just go into hiding when we win three straight. Then show up on a rainy day.
 

BulldogBlitz

Heisman
Dec 11, 2008
18,648
27,452
113
three years ago...im right with you..... but track record is there to say otherwise
 

benatmsu

Junior
May 28, 2007
2,420
288
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I don't know whether he should stay or not. I'm undecided. However, if your gonna hate Rick Ray do it when we win and lose. Don't just go into hiding when we win three straight. Then show up on a rainy day.

3 games doesn't magically absolve Ray for the incredibly inconsistent play of his teams. I don't know if he should be fired or not, but he deserves a good bit of criticism for this:

<blockquote><p>You know you're having a tough game when you haven't got to double digits by halftime. <a href="http://t.co/oAQxgIbiLx">pic.twitter.com/oAQxgIbiLx</a></p>— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/564186136487407616">February 7, 2015</a></blockquote>
 

rugbdawg

Redshirt
Oct 10, 2006
5,251
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My god man. We have made Arkansas look like a final four team today. This is YEAR THREE.
 

Shmuley

Heisman
Mar 6, 2008
24,423
12,631
113
Decent athletes with zero understanding of the game. Poorly coached.
 
Nov 12, 2007
26,200
10,358
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I have been here giving credit during the wins. But NINE points in a half???? I would be giving **** to whoever our coach was for that half even if it was John Wooden.
 

KurtRambis4

Redshirt
Aug 30, 2006
15,926
0
36
When your

team can't grasp the most basic concept of beating a press, the coach deserves everything he has thrown his way.
 

jmac.sixpack

Redshirt
Apr 12, 2012
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I don't know whether he should stay or not. I'm undecided. However, if your gonna hate Rick Ray do it when we win and lose. Don't just go into hiding when we win three straight. Then show up on a rainy day.

I know that I have been saying it for 3 years - Rick Ray is in way over his head. He cannot coach offense and cannot recruit. Nobody cares about our basketball team any more.
 

TheGoat.sixpack

Redshirt
Sep 16, 2012
318
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I'm just sorta BLANK STARING at both parties on Ray. I'm really confused. I was warming back up and then TODAY happened. Still, I'm leaning towards the guy
 

Palos verdes

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2012
1,839
36
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I don't know whether he should stay or not. I'm undecided. However, if your gonna hate Rick Ray do it when we win and lose. Don't just go into hiding when we win three straight. Then show up on a rainy day.

True. This is the new era of SEC basketball, win one, lose two and vice versa. Kentucky is different and doesn't apply to the rest.
 

Bulldogg31

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Dec 9, 2013
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I played golf today with a buddy who was on the Ark hoops team during the Nolan years. He asked me if we could give em a game today. I told him if ARK runs full court press and half court traps we might not score 40. I was pretty close.

Anybody that has watched both teams saw this one coming a mile away.
 

dannyripms

Redshirt
Sep 3, 2013
847
1
18
Dude should probably be fired but he won't. He will have another year. I'm willing to see how this season to play out before I get on the fire Ray now wagon.
 

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
63
If we could beat Alabama, I'd have to say we have gotten away from that. Lot riding on Tuesday night.
 

MSUDawg25

Redshirt
Jan 21, 2010
2,088
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What concerns me is a scenario where we:
1. Show just enough improvement to retain Ray this year.
2. Are good enough next year with a veteran team to be a bubble team and Ray gets a new contract or buys himself another couple years.
3. The next year we are right back to being terrible with Ware, Thomas, and Sword gone.

I definitely can't guarantee that will happen, and I'm never a proponent of counting losses against a coach for games that haven't been played yet. It just seems like a likely scenario to me.
 

msstate7

Redshirt
Nov 27, 2008
10,388
10
38
What concerns me is a scenario where we:
1. Show just enough improvement to retain Ray this year.
2. Are good enough next year with a veteran team to be a bubble team and Ray gets a new contract or buys himself another couple years.
3. The next year we are right back to being terrible with Ware, Thomas, and Sword gone.

I definitely can't guarantee that will happen, and I'm never a proponent of counting losses against a coach for games that haven't been played yet. It just seems like a likely scenario to me.

I think ray getting postseason next season would be a good thing for our team. That would ensure us signing simonds and hicks. Simonds is the #81 player in '16 according to scout. Simonds and hicks are very good players.

Q. Weatherspoon is a good player this year. He's #81 player in the country according to scout.

Black and Houston will be good players hopefully as early as next season.

Our talent level is rising
 

Fktdawg

All-Conference
Aug 22, 2012
1,266
2,105
108
I think ray getting postseason next season would be a good thing for our team. That would ensure us signing simonds and hicks. Simonds is the #81 player in '16 according to scout. Simonds and hicks are very good players.

Q. Weatherspoon is a good player this year. He's #81 player in the country according to scout.

Black and Houston will be good players hopefully as early as next season.

Our talent level is rising

We may be adding some decent talent, but we will still lack coaching to go with that talent.

Ive yet yet to see anything from Ray that shows me he has a grasp on coaching offense/ making adjustments.
As previously stated above, I'm afraid Stricklin will give him another season after this one, and then Ray will luck up and win just a few more games next season and buy himself another couple of years and we will continue to be in the cellar of SEC basketball.
 

MSUDawg25

Redshirt
Jan 21, 2010
2,088
1
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It it is amazing how low the expectations for this program have become.

Yes. I will never and don't want to ever be excited about a potential NIT bid or our talent level rising from bad to mediocre. Ray does seem like a great guy, but let's don't lower the standard for the program because he's a great guy. The standards are the same. If he meets them, he stays our coach. If not, he will unfortunately have to be a great guy somewhere else.
 

DawgatAuburn

All-Conference
Apr 25, 2006
11,192
2,329
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That's the truth. If these are our targets, we need to aim higher. Or we need to find a way to make mid level talent perform like a high level team.

I don't know that anyone's expectations have become. It's just reality right now that we aren't anywhere close to a tournament team. Ray's running out of time to turn this around.
 

Cow College

Redshirt
Aug 21, 2012
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I don't know whether he should stay or not. I'm undecided. However, if your gonna hate Rick Ray do it when we win and lose. Don't just go into hiding when we win three straight. Then show up on a rainy day.

Just so I am clear because I think Ray should be gone I should come in and piss on everyone else's parade after some wins? I always pull for state and hope this team gets better but Ray needs to be gone. I am not going to come back after every win and tell people that. Ignant
 
Aug 15, 2006
1,937
558
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Ark 19-5 all time in Fayettenam vs MSU.

They have ALWAYS dominated us there.

It was bound to happen. Reality sits in hard...streaky shooting will backfire. Lots of 0'fers on our team, 0-10 3 pt shots. They did turn it around a bit and shot 50% FG in the second half.

Rebuild take time. Especially considering the injury bug that has tarnished us for three years. It's beyond ridiculous.

Bama game will see a comeback. Maybe over 50% of the seats will be occupied.
Estimated Actual Attendance: 17,404 (@ Arkansas)
 
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