They shot 35 free throws us 11. Ok

DawgatAuburn

All-Conference
Apr 25, 2006
11,192
2,329
113
They were way more aggressive. Might have been a couple of questionable calls, particularly a block/charge call or two, but I don't think we can complain about the refs a whole lot. I didn't notice our bench doing a lot of complaining either. The foul on Daniels on the jumper from the left wing was a no call in my opinion.
 

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,782
24,668
113
We had some tough, tough calls go against us.

we got called for a lose ball foul with 3 guys going for a ball and only 1 OM player.
 
Aug 15, 2006
1,937
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Actually it was 37.

Sword getting clocked in the face by an elbow was a no-call, as the most important issue was whether the um player was shooting a 3 vs a 2 immediately afterward.
Typical of Sad Pad's refs...thus when I was a student, I only went there once due to the obvious BS calls. It's worse than Rupp Arena.

 

coach66

Junior
Mar 5, 2009
12,719
343
83
The officials hurt us but they played turrible until the last five minutes and

we should have taken care of the ball, attacked their extended zone with penetration and we still would have won the game. It was a lost opportunity for sure.
 
Aug 18, 2009
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I agree and tried to explain that to some friends last night. They also shot 9 FTs in the final minute to skew that stat even further. Sure, the refs missed some calls, but for the most part in the second half OM sat back in that zone and we lost our aggressiveness. Meanwhile, their PG took it to the rim/paint every possession trying to draw fouls.
 

EAVdog

Redshirt
Aug 10, 2010
2,336
0
36
SEC refs in general are terrible. Last night was usual but definitely one sided on the way they called contact and the foul on the 3 was ridiculous. Not to mention they never once called over the back I believe. Which happened quite a bit.
 

tcdog70

Junior
Sep 24, 2012
1,410
272
83
you are not going to get fouled when all you do is throw it around the perimeter. Our guards don't know how the get to the free throw line. Ball fakes are not in their repertoire. We were fouling them alot at the end of the game.
 

drt7891

Redshirt
Dec 6, 2010
6,727
0
0
2 things lost us that game:

1. The only player who would make any effort to get to the free throw line is Chicken

2. More importantly, OM mixed it up on both ends and we were horribly confused. We came out of the gate And went up 13, but what did OM do? Throw a zone defense at us and went on a 17-2 run. They got 12 points off turnovers in that stretch alone. Inexcusable.

We are not a mentally strong team. At all. That's on Ray. We don't adjust to different looks, we aren't patient, and we aren't aggressive. Aggression and attacking the basket get you either free throws or open looks. We didn't do any of that. Ray can tell us time and time again that we have to do these things, but in year 3, we are still inept at knowing where and how to apply any pressure at all. Aside from the first 5 minutes, OM was in complete control of that game. Refs didn't change that or anything else... We just happened to hit some jump shots.
 

coach66

Junior
Mar 5, 2009
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I agree, when they extended that zone they were ripe for penetration. With the

exception of Chicken we don't have many guys that can create their own shot. For example Summers and their other guards do a good job creating their own shots and when they don't they dish it pretty well. You are correct, we are trying to create shots by passing it around the perimeter as fast as we can.
 

FlotownDawg

All-American
Aug 30, 2012
7,385
8,462
113
This in spades

you are not going to get fouled when all you do is throw it around the perimeter.
That is just about all we did in the second half. Pass the pass around the perimeter against their zone and settle for jumpers. We hardly ever tried to go inside. Just about all of Ware's points were on long jump shots, and he's supposed to be our center. Thank God we shot 57% or we would have gotten blown out.
 

Seinfeld

All-American
Nov 30, 2006
11,761
8,186
113
I really hate to make this comparison because I have nothing in the world against Ray on a personal level whereas I despised Croom, but this really does seem to be turning into the Sly Croom years all over again.

He's cleaned up the program, seems to be a really good guy, and kids for the most part are playing hard BUT... The recruiting just isn't cutting it, the wins aren't there, and the guy just seems to be completely in over his head more times than not. Like most have already mentioned, there's just no excuse for this in Year 3.
 

jakldawg

Redshirt
May 1, 2006
4,380
5
36
And when we finally got to the line...they iced our free throw shooter to review a play that had happened like three sequences earlier.
 

kired

All-Conference
Aug 22, 2008
7,187
2,633
113
That's been pretty typical of the last few MSU vs UM games. The winning team normally has significantly more FTs. The game we won last year was something like 40 attempts for us and around 10 or 15 for them. I'm sure we had at least 3 times as many FT attempts.
 

DawgatAuburn

All-Conference
Apr 25, 2006
11,192
2,329
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First of all, be careful making comparisons. Enough about that.

Second, I agree with most of what you said, but I do feel like Croom had some talent. He just didn't know how to....how to.....how to.....well how to do anything.
 

OleMissLogo

Redshirt
Dec 28, 2014
15,573
0
0
That's been pretty typical of the last few MSU vs UM games. The winning team normally has significantly more FTs. The game we won last year was something like 40 attempts for us and around 10 or 15 for them. I'm sure we had at least 3 times as many FT attempts.

2013-14:

Game 1 (@MSU) MSU 76 - Ole Miss 72
MSU FT: 28-42
Ole Miss FT: 10-12

Game 2 (@Ole Miss) Ole Miss 82 - MSU 63
Ole Miss FT: 17-20
MSU FT: 6-14


2012-13:

Game 1 (@Ole Miss) Ole Miss 93 - MSU 75
Ole Miss FT: 27-36
MSU FT: 14-20

Game 2 (@MSU) MSU 73 - Ole Miss 67
MSU FT: 27-37
Ole Miss FT: 11-16

Of those 4 games, MSU benefited from foul/FT differential a lot more than Ole Miss did.
 
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