Will you give Cal another chance if he....

Rupp'sRunt

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Doesnt win 20 games? NIT? 1st rd exit? What will be expected next year with this type of class?


Spoiler *** You shouldn't expect much
 
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Lempface

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No problem giving him 3 years to get us back to an elite 8. Landscape is changing and things are going to be wildly different but I don’t see a better realistic option out there and honestly I like the guy a lot and he’s earned plenty of good will from me and I believe he can adapt. The off season changes and statements show his willingness to evaluate himself but it might not be a 1 year fix.
 

struggler

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No... Far more should be expected from him... And he should expect far more from himself. This isn't a charity rebuild. He's at the top. Is paid as if he's at the top. Talks like he's at the top and represents a program that should be at the top. Winning should be the priority.
 

Rupp'sRunt

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No problem giving him 3 years to get us back to an elite 8. Landscape is changing and things are going to be wildly different but I don’t see a better realistic option out there and honestly I like the guy a lot and he’s earned plenty of good will from me and I believe he can adapt. The off season changes and statements show his willingness to evaluate himself but it might not be a 1 year fix.
Well I can guarantee its not a 1 year fix, but a sub 20 win season next year your fine with? I'm sure a lot won't be. Hes the top paid coach in the country, you cant just **** the bed year after year consecutively.
 

BigCat241

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4-5 more years at least. He gave us one of the greatest stretches of our program from 2011-2015, and has 3 final fours and 1 championship. He is still a top recruiter in the game, come on, you think kids would rather play for Chris Beard or one of the greatest coaches of all time in Cal. There is no better options out there and there wont be for some time unless you want to hire another BCG.
 

Wildcats1st

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Basketball programs rebuild over night. No to three years next season he has to get back in the top 10-20. A sweet sixteen year or stop this madness of scrambling every stinkin May. You get a sub 20 win season and it’s curtains. He will take some low end nba team
 

rwbloomjr

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Well I can guarantee its not a 1 year fix, but a sub 20 win season next year your fine with? I'm sure a lot won't be. Hes the top paid coach in the country, you cant just **** the bed year after year consecutively.
How can you say it's not a 1 year fix? At UK Cal doesn't build a program with multi-year players, he brings in a whole new team (almost) every year so of course it's a 1 year fix.

Cal used all his "good will" with the way he coached and behaved last season. Bye Cal....
 

jrpross_rivals

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Feb 21, 2008
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I’ve been very adamant that this year in itself shouldn’t merit looking for another coach. But another year like we just had and I’ll be about done. I don’t necessarily expect a championship contender but the fact that Cal is bringing in Antigua & Chin means that he knew change was needed and he’s not ok with results like we had this year. If we have a sweet 16ish team this year, I’ll be patient enough to stick it out. If it’s the same the following year, it might be time to revisit the idea again.

I honestly think it might be in the upswing though. It’ll be interesting to see the in court results this year and the new recruiting class with the new coaches.
 
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ShadowFromHomewardBound

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Doesnt win 20 games? NIT? 1st rd exit? What will be expected next year with this type of class?


Spoiler *** You shouldn't expect much

Personally John Calipari has lost my respect and support, along with a large portion of the fan base.

That being said; I would be very pleased and happy if he were to be successful next season as I am and will always be a staunch fan of Kentucky basketball. As most in here can attest to, being a Kentucky basketball fan is just different.

I am over and tired of his model though and think it’s completely broken. It’s not very fun to lose majority of your scoring and majority of your team every single year, especially when the results are pedestrian or mediocre. Unfortunately I believe John Calipari’s best days are behind him as I do not believe he will adapt or change his “model” which is NBA first.
 

Lempface

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Well I can guarantee its not a 1 year fix, but a sub 20 win season next year your fine with? I'm sure a lot won't be. Hes the top paid coach in the country, you cant just **** the bed year after year consecutively.
Yeah I’m okay with it, I think this year was a perfect storm of unfortunate events that put us in a bad spot for next year, much of which I don’t pin on Cal. So with that, I’m ok with another poor year because if we bring in someone new tomorrow the chances we have a better year than Cal would have is slim to none. So with that I have to look longer term and I still don’t see anyone realistic that’ll be better 2 years from now.
 

ShadowFromHomewardBound

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One of my favorite things about Cal is how crazy he drives some of you. He can go winless next season and I would likely still support him for that reason alone.

Uhh... that’s cool man lol?

You really shouldn’t let random dudes on a message board dictate your feelings to that extent man. It’s really not all that serious.

I can’t imagine being happy with my team going winless because it would in turn Make complete strangers on a message board, who are also fans of Kentucky basketball, upset?

If we go winless next season you will be happy and still support him because it would make other fans upset that we went winless? At this point man you’re too invested into the social media aspect of being a Kentucky basketball fan. Sure, we all get spirited and sometimes even harshly critical on here but I mean... at the end of the day it’s just an online message board 🤷🏽‍♂️
 

Lempface

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Also for those that say a basketball program over night I introduce to you the 2010 Ky Wildcats after an "abysmal BCG season"
This is a very very rare occurrence, far more often rebuilds take years. Pay attention to UNC with their new coach.
 

BigCat241

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Also for those that say a basketball program over night I introduce to you the 2010 Ky Wildcats after an "abysmal BCG season"
Is there a coach who we can hire that will automatically bring 2 top 10 players with him just because they wanted to play for them like Cousins and Wall?
 
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irishcat1965

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It doesn’t matter if I would give him another chance. He will still be coaching here. I hope he is very successful next year not out of any loyalty to him, but because I am UK graduate and want my university to do well in basketball. Obviously his level of success next year will depend in large part on who ends up on the roster, particularly at point guard.
 

LEDGENDARY

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Uhh... that’s cool man lol?

You really shouldn’t let random dudes on a message board dictate your feelings to that extent man. It’s really not all that serious.

I can’t imagine being happy with my team going winless because it would in turn Make complete strangers on a message board, who are also fans of Kentucky basketball, upset?

If we go winless next season you will be happy and still support him because it would make other fans upset that we went winless? At this point man you’re too invested into the social media aspect of being a Kentucky basketball fan. Sure, we all get spirited and sometimes even harshly critical on here but I mean... at the end of the day it’s just an online message board 🤷🏽‍♂️
Typical cringe reply from a beta poster who insists on gaslighting others.

I don't think it's really them dictating my feelings if it's Cal's actions that are the cause of those feelings. It's just an added bonus to watch you and them meltdown over those actions. If you weren't melting down I would be just as happy, as I am a pretty happy person with a happy, fulfilling life.

I don't recall saying I would be happy going winless, just that I would likely still support Cal if it happened. Not sure how anyone with a basic level of reading comprehension could conclude that I would be happy about losing.

You seem to post here quite a lot and invest a lot of time in incorrectly diagnosing peoples intentions and psychological interpretations to convey to others "it's just a message board." Seems like a bit of gaslighting to me.

You seem to take this all way too seriously. Between your old handle FrankUnderwood (which obviously wasn't your first one either) and this new one, you have almost 20,000 posts in like 4 years. Let's be honest man, you live for this board and obviously feel a significant level of importance here. That’s what your life has become! Just let that sink in for a few minutes.
 
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Rupp'sRunt

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It's why he needs to get this right and take time to finish the roster out strong. The #1 issue was heinous PG play and roster management. All that said, UK was in most of the games they lost.
Its impossible to do Ralph. Game has been over for a while. IDC if he gets every top transfer, UK was lost on the hardy lock the way they lost on the Wiseman lock and so on. You need to win if you're all in
 

Rupp'sRunt

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Theres definetly a coach that can both
I hate hubert Davis. If Hubert Davis goes 9 wins next year or below .500 hes feeling a lot of heat.
I have many friends who agree with me that Hubert Davis looks like former character actor Larry "Flash" Jenkins-aka Gummy from "Fletch" or one of the valets from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.


Hubert at 1:35 give me a break. This guy is a bum
 
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hotelblue

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I don’t hate him, I just find him goofy as hell. If he is successful I will be absolutely shocked.
i agree. he has that mike davis vibe. he’s going to sport that look like he’s going to cry in a tough game. i just don’t see players responding to that. these days i guess we don’t know, but as far as convention goes i’m not buying that.
 

ArtLaibsGhost_rivals

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My question is WHY should the highest paid coach in college basketball , at the premier program in college basketball , ever need to “rebuild”. He has been here over 10 years, every aspect about our current program ‘s “State” is Cal’s doing, his design. Nearly everyone admits things are broken right now and need to be fixed yet many feel the guy who tore the palace apart is the man who should and will fix it. Then I hear all this drivel about we gotta swim or sink with Cal because we can’t get anyone better. Does anyone really rationally believe no coach in the country could not win more than 9 games at Kentucky , really. Then I hear it’s Cal or another BG like there is no middle or higher ground between the 2, what nonsense. UK needs to contend for an SEC title, make the NCAA tournament and win a couple of games next year or Cal needs to move on. Look at our roster for next year and tell me how that’s gonna happen.
 

BigCat241

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25-30 wins, win the SEC, Final Four or bust
“But BigRedMachine you set your standards too high!” Well Cal should have never had a season like he did. Some of y’all act like last season was a BCG year... no it was the worst season in Kentucky history since Rupp took the job.
Yes, that one season should outweigh 3 final fours and a national championship. You are pathetic.
 

BigCat241

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9-16 season after 7 years of no Final Four.
So im guessing you think Dook should fire Coach K? He has had more talent the past 7 years but Cal has had better results. These 7 years havent even been that bad, Elite 8's and Sweet 16's count for something along with SEC championships.
 
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So im guessing you think Dook should fire Coach K? He has had more talent the past 7 years but Cal has had better results. These 7 years havent even been that bad, Elite 8's and Sweet 16's count for something along with SEC championships.
SEC championships are great and all but they mean little, we have a bunch of them. I will never consider anything but a Final Four or better a great season.
 

Rupp'sRunt

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So im guessing you think Dook should fire Coach K? He has had more talent the past 7 years but Cal has had better results. These 7 years havent even been that bad, Elite 8's and Sweet 16's count for something along with SEC championships.
Were really comparing Coach K with his 5x NCAA ships to Cal "best of the best" with his 1 ship and pretend duke isn't out preforming him at this very moment? thats cute
 

kybassfan

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Like anyone is “giving” him a chance. What an arrogant question. Cal gets chances as long as he likes because his contract says so, or until the administration decides they aren’t pleased and have many millions laying around to execute the escape to the contract.

Does anyone discuss reality anymore or is it all hater fantasies?
 
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