2015 Preseason Rankings

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,782
24,668
113
What ya think? Top 10? Top 15? Top 25?

I guess that would depend on how the NFLDraft treats us.
 

croomin

Redshirt
Oct 6, 2012
532
0
0
Top 10

I think we'll hold if we win our bowl game given the skill players coming back (which deservedly or not drive rankings).
 

Sutterkane

Redshirt
Jan 23, 2007
5,100
0
0
It depends more on how we finish in our bowl. If we slaughter somebody then we'll be top 10. If we get slaughtered probably top 25. If we have a close win over say....a Marshall? Top 25. Close win over, Ohio State? Top 15.
 
Aug 22, 2012
2,761
1
31
Fair or not when you return your Quarterback and Running Back people expect big things. Next year might be one of those years where we end up lower than we start. Like 2011 but not as bad of a fall.

We probably don't go undefeated at home again and we swap Vandy for Mizzou. Carrying #1 for a while will get us ranked fairly high to start though.

Preseason: somewhere between 13-18. End up in the 19-25 range.
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,743
22,997
113
Bama, Auburn, and Ole Miss will all have new QB's. LSU basically will have a new QB unless they want to keep Jennings.

Will be interesting to see what happens in the West.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

All-Conference
May 28, 2007
18,209
4,353
113
As good as this season was, I really was looking forward to 2015 more before this season started since Dak would be a senior, we'd have a tandem of star runningbacks, Bear getting better at WR, and a solid SR linebacker group. Next year all comes down to line play. We should definitely be top 15. After week 2 we'll either be in the top 10 or towards the back of the top 25.
 

Hammer Down

Redshirt
Jul 19, 2014
1,360
0
0
We will probably be a better overall team in 2015, but our record will not show it. I do believe we will finally beat Alabama though. 10-2 possible, 8-4 likely.
 

dannyripms

Redshirt
Sep 3, 2013
847
1
18
17 that, I think 10-2 or better. Bama, tsun, aubby will have new qb's lsu still won't have one but will be better, Texas doesn't have a defense and won't next year either. If the ball bounces our way a little I see the same type of season if not better. Our team will be better next year will a lot of players returning.
 
Aug 22, 2012
2,761
1
31
We are not going to be better without McKinney, Wells, Day, Smith, Eulls, PJ, Beckwith, Love, Malcolm, Jameon, Clausell & Virges.

That's 12 major contributors, most of them starters. Do you seriously think we'll be improved without them? Give me a break.
 

johnson86-1

All-American
Aug 22, 2012
15,277
5,814
113
Bama, Auburn, and Ole Miss will all have new QB's. LSU basically will have a new QB unless they want to keep Jennings.

Will be interesting to see what happens in the West.

I expect Arkansas to be #2 in the West next year behind Bama. Then probably Auburn, and then LSU, Ole Miss, and A&M bringing up the rear. I could see us finishing anywhere from 1st to 5th next year.
 

Hammer Down

Redshirt
Jul 19, 2014
1,360
0
0
Every team must replace people, and we have been redshirting nearly our entire class starting with that 2010 class you just typed out. At the very least we will have older guys vying for starting positions.
 

dannyripms

Redshirt
Sep 3, 2013
847
1
18
We are not going to be better without McKinney, Wells, Day, Smith, Eulls, PJ, Beckwith, Love, Malcolm, Jameon, Clausell & Virges.

That's 12 major contributors, most of them starters. Do you seriously think we'll be improved without them? Give me a break.

As far as the online which is where we are losing the most, I think we can put together about the same quality if not better. The biggest loss to me is McKinney and Wells. I think we have some guys that'll fill that void. Love, Jameon can be replaced. so give me a break.
 
Aug 22, 2012
2,761
1
31
Granted. But we won't be BETTER no matter what. You don't lose that many starts and that much experience (especially along both lines) and improve.
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,743
22,997
113
I really think Dak makes our OL look better than it is. He is another RB in the backfield that can also throw pretty well so replacing our OL is not a concern.

The DL is where I have some worry. We lose a lot of experience.
 

KingBarkus

Redshirt
May 1, 2006
1,142
24
38
Bama, Auburn, and Ole Miss will all have new QB's. LSU basically will have a new QB unless they want to keep Jennings.

Will be interesting to see what happens in the West.

I'm hoping lsu will get decimated on the OL with the draft. They were predicted to be a strength of the team this year, and I hope the NFL still has their rankings fairly high. It is a concern down here in the land of Corndogs.
 

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,782
24,668
113
I agree. I'm much more concerned with the NFL draft snagging Dak, Robinson, or Redmond than I am about replacing most of the ones previously mentioned.

Our Front 7 won't be as stout, but our O could very well be better (assuming Dak and Robinson return). Our WRs next year will be a handfull.
 
Aug 22, 2012
2,761
1
31
I don't think Dak has done enough in the air to warrant drafting him in the first few rounds. Especially considering some of the more polished passers that are expected to go this year (Mariota, Winston, Hundley, etc.).

Robinson might go but that Ole Miss tape is not going to help his draft stock. Pass blocking is the ticket to playing time in the NFL so if he's serious about that he's going to have to really improve there.

I have doubt either leave.
 

Philly Dawg

Heisman
Oct 6, 2012
16,330
11,041
113
You're being much too unequivocal. While I ackowledge we'd have to replace a lot, we also return quite a bit. For example, we replace offensive linemen, but it wasn't exactly an overpowering unit anyway. And on defense, our front seven could drop off, but our overall defense could be as good or better based on an improved secondary. Our defense doesn't have to be all that great to manage similar numbers to this year. Our western divsion schedule looks easier, since we trade LSU, Alabama, and Ole Miss road games for Texas A&M, Auburn, and Arkansas. But from the East, we add Missiouri on the road. So the schedule may be a push.

We had some good players in this senior class, but very few were irreplacable. And I wouldn't chalk up any underclassmen as going pro until it actually happens. With Prescott, Robinson, and Wilson returning, you will always have a chance at a very good team.
 

msstate7

Redshirt
Nov 27, 2008
10,388
10
38
Bama, Auburn, and Ole Miss will all have new QB's. LSU basically will have a new QB unless they want to keep Jennings.

Will be interesting to see what happens in the West.

I like that auburn will be replacing Williams (most likely) and Coates even more than I like them losing Marshall.

I like the loss of cooper more than sims too.
 

msstate7

Redshirt
Nov 27, 2008
10,388
10
38
We could look a lot like 2014 Auburn next season. Offense that can move the chains but a defense that has real problems.

Maybe.

Chris jones, r brown, b brown, Redmond, and Calhoun are some really nice pieces to build around defensively though. They give us really solid players at every level of our defense.

Bryant and peters will make us better at safety imo
 

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,782
24,668
113
Our D hasn't really varied ALL that much over the last 5 years:

2010 - 19.8
2011 - 19.7
2012 - 23.3
2013 - 23.0
2014 - 19.4

Total D
2010 - 358
2011 - 350
2012 - 387
2013 - 349
2014 - 411

By Comparison, this year's Auburn team is giving up 425 yards and 26 ppg.
 
Aug 22, 2012
2,761
1
31
I'm not talking about the schedule. The schedule will never be easier than it was this year. It broke perfectly.

I'm talking about talent and experience. How anyone could think our defense will be as good without Benardrick and Wells is beyond me. Did you see the 1Bs this year? Zack Jackson is still trying to catch up to that Kentucky tight end. And where is our secondary improvement coming from? We return Redmond and Calhoun but who's going to play safety? These are huge question marks and people are just saying, "We'll be better." Are these the same guys saying we'd roll Ole Miss?

I'll grant that we could see improvement and development from younger players. But you don't lose the depth and experience we had on defense and just get better. Hell, you probably don't even stay on the same level.

And on offense, I think most are really discounting how much chemistry we had on the line. Think about how much time those guys had played together. Even if we were able to restock the line with similar talent (that's a big if) there's no way the 2015 line will match our 2014 line chemistry-wise. Not to mention we won't get a three game warm-up for the line to develop any chemistry like 2014. LSU comes to town in game 2!
 
Aug 22, 2012
2,761
1
31
Looks like we regressed this year (60 more yards a game). Now take away four or five of our best players on defense. Collins is going to have to earn his money next season.
 

BulldogBlitz

Heisman
Dec 11, 2008
18,648
27,466
113
I feel very comfortable saying that I'd stake my mortgage on us being at least a Top 50 team in the preseason poll.
 

Hammer Down

Redshirt
Jul 19, 2014
1,360
0
0
About this time is when Jackie Sherrill would plug in a JUCO All-American and never miss a beat (until the Arizona Western class). Anybody know if we have anybody on the horizon? I see a couple of JUCO guys on the commitment list. I too am concerned with Zack Jackson and Richie Brown, but Beniquez Brown is a hoss, and honestly both Jackson and R. Brown have made good plays throughout the year, they do not just suck terribly. I am hoping Gerri Green explodes on the scene, God knows he has the ability.

For whatever reason, I am not concerned with the defensive line. A.J. Jefferson is a name we will call many times next fall.
 

Philly Dawg

Heisman
Oct 6, 2012
16,330
11,041
113
I'm not saying we'll be better. I'm just saying things aren't nearly as black and white this year.

From year to year, some incoming players will be better than their replacements and some will be worse. Our defense was not very good statistically this year, which means that there is a chance it could be better this year. It could be better in some ways and worse in others. I readily acknowledge it could also be worse, but I'm not going to make all negative assumptions. For example, its far from certain that McKinney goes pro, yet you assume it without even acknowledging the possibility that he stays.
 

Sutterkane

Redshirt
Jan 23, 2007
5,100
0
0
I'm not excited about State having a senior QB. We have NEVER met expectations with a senior QB.
 

RocketDawg

All-Conference
Oct 21, 2011
20,499
3,124
113
Top 10 if we win our bowl and hang on to Dak (and maybe McKinney). I think we've shown that losing Dameon won't be too bad. Top 20 if we lose our bowl game.
 

dannyripms

Redshirt
Sep 3, 2013
847
1
18
Every thing you post is negative. You need to eat a snickers bar. I looked at all your posts and 90% are negative. Damn your life sucks
 

121Josey

Redshirt
Oct 30, 2012
7,503
0
0
I laughed. Big difference between 19 ppg and 23 ppg. By comparison**

Opp PPG (not counting FCS games)
2014 11th (including garbage time**, not including bowl game)
2013 32nd
2012 36th
2011 15th
2010 18th

Opp Points by QTR
2014 4th 21st 46th 39th

Opp YPG (not counting FCS games)
2014 78th
2013 29th
2012 53rd
2011 26th
2010 40th

3rd Down % (not counting FCS)
2014 10th (TSUN 12th**)
2013 38th
2012 84th
2011 23rd
2010 13th
 
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