Marcus Carr

kyjeff1

Heisman
Sep 8, 2012
50,702
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I'm thinking Carr is the one Cal is waiting on. He's in the transfer portal, but he's also testing the waters.
This write up kind of alludes to UK being a major player for Carr and at first I wasn't that high on him, because he plays a little bit of all-or-nothing ball sometimes, but I feel like Cal would quickly get that under control.
Watch the 11 minute video in this link. He is very quick, has really good ball control and he can get to the rim at will.
I could do without the James Harden step-back long jumpers, but the kid plays hard and has the tools one needs to play pg under Cal at UK.
I think Cal is waiting on him to announce he's staying in the portal. He's 6'2" 195, averaged 19ppg and 4rpg, so he can play.

 

CELTICAT

Heisman
May 21, 2002
19,249
18,867
113
Not my first choice, but they didn't ask me either.

Whatever it takes to keep Askew from getting anything other than spot minutes at this point. Carr and Grady would be far and away the most experienced backcourt Cal has had at UK.
 

kyjeff1

Heisman
Sep 8, 2012
50,702
71,107
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A lot of fans point out that he's not perfect but he is still pretty damn good and very experienced. I would feel as comfortable with him at PG as most of the freshman we've had running point the past decade
His experience, combined with Mintz, Grady, Allen and even Askew, would give UK an incredible backcourt next year.
There will be an adjustment period, but Cal won't have to teach these guys how to walk and chew gum at the same time and he won't have to scream all game long.
Grady and Carr can get to the rim, that is a proven fact, so I definitely like the idea of adding Carr.
 

kyjeff1

Heisman
Sep 8, 2012
50,702
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Not my first choice, but they didn't ask me either.

Whatever it takes to keep Askew from getting anything other than spot minutes at this point. Carr and Grady would be far and away the most experienced backcourt Cal has had at UK.
Add Mintz to those two guys and you have 3 guys with a ton of college experience. I definitely like the thought of that.
By March, that backcourt would be damn good.
 

Dr.LutherSan

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His experience, combined with Mintz, Grady, Allen and even Askew, would give UK an incredible backcourt next year.
There will be an adjustment period, but Cal won't have to teach these guys how to walk and chew gum at the same time and he won't have to scream all game long.
Grady and Carr can get to the rim, that is a proven fact, so I definitely like the idea of adding Carr.
That depth and experience could really help Hickman going forward.
 

BassProCat

Heisman
Jan 5, 2017
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Cal’s niche is def coaching PG’s. That’s why the Askew situation is such a head scratcher...Cal swung n missed 3 times on that deal but if there’s one thing I’ll leave my trust in with Cal is finding the right PG.

It does seem like he’s waiting on Carr tho. Hope this doesn’t backfire but Im sure Cal has been in contact and has a good idea on the situation.
 

KentuckyCat420

Heisman
Sep 16, 2006
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Cal’s niche is def coaching PG’s. That’s why the Askew situation is such a head scratcher...Cal swung n missed 3 times on that deal but if there’s one thing I’ll leave my trust in with Cal is finding the right PG.

It does seem like he’s waiting on Carr tho. Hope this doesn’t backfire but Im sure Cal has been in contact and has a good idea on the situation.
Cal’s niche used to be getting Point Guards so good that they didn’t need much coaching. He can’t land those guys anymore so Askew is what you get.

Easy to look good at coaching PG’s when they’re John Wall, Derrick Rose, Brandon Knight, Tyler Ulis, De’Aaron Fox, etc.
 

STL_Cat

Heisman
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If we could somehow return Mintz and add Carr I think that's a quality backcourt and a huge upgrade over what we had this year.
 
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LineSkiCat14

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Aug 5, 2015
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If it is true that Carr isn't the best of shooters, then you MUST play Grady and Allen at the 2 and 3. I don't think it would work with Carr at the 1, Brooks at the 3, and Grady/Allen sharing time at the 2. If your PG isn't a great shooter, then the 2 and 3 spots must be.. and really, the 4 as well, if you can.
 

BassProCat

Heisman
Jan 5, 2017
12,032
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Cal’s niche used to be getting Point Guards so good that they didn’t need much coaching. He can’t land those guys anymore so Askew is what you get.

Easy to look good at coaching PG’s when they’re John Wall, Derrick Rose, Brandon Knight, Tyler Ulis, De’Aaron Fox, etc.

Right so all those 18 years old just came in and knew what to do. HOF coach didn’t teach them ****.
 

true-blue1

Heisman
May 15, 2007
12,432
10,740
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Not my first choice, but they didn't ask me either.

Whatever it takes to keep Askew from getting anything other than spot minutes at this point. Carr and Grady would be far and away the most experienced backcourt Cal has had at UK.
He's not my first choice either, I like the PG from Creighton better.
 
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kyjeff1

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That depth and experience could really help Hickman going forward.
Agreed. I think it would greatly help Askew too. Askew needs to see how a legit pg is supposed to run a team. He was still hesitating and picking up his dribble in bad spots in the final game of the season, so he has a long way to go.
 

kyjeff1

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Sep 8, 2012
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If it is true that Carr isn't the best of shooters, then you MUST play Grady and Allen at the 2 and 3. I don't think it would work with Carr at the 1, Brooks at the 3, and Grady/Allen sharing time at the 2. If your PG isn't a great shooter, then the 2 and 3 spots must be.. and really, the 4 as well, if you can.
I definitely agree, but I also think you have to ride the hot hand. There were games where Mintz was on fire, then there were games where he really didn't shoot very well.
Carr is that same way, if he's hitting, ride the wave, if not, make him go to the rim.
But yeah, we need to go with a taller guard at the 3. Grady and Allen would be good fits there, but they have to rebound.
 

kl40504_rivals

Heisman
Oct 5, 2018
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11,184
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I'm thinking Carr is the one Cal is waiting on. He's in the transfer portal, but he's also testing the waters.
This write up kind of alludes to UK being a major player for Carr and at first I wasn't that high on him, because he plays a little bit of all-or-nothing ball sometimes, but I feel like Cal would quickly get that under control.
Watch the 11 minute video in this link. He is very quick, has really good ball control and he can get to the rim at will.
I could do without the James Harden step-back long jumpers, but the kid plays hard and has the tools one needs to play pg under Cal at UK.
I think Cal is waiting on him to announce he's staying in the portal. He's 6'2" 195, averaged 19ppg and 4rpg, so he can play.

Another Marcus Carr thread.
 
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Anyone who can get to the rim would be welcome. Defense collapses, giving shooters the chance to shoot some uncontested shots every now and then.

That was the big problem with our shooting most of the season. No penetration, no post threat that required a double; so no good looks.

Towards the end we got something going with pick and pop and Jackson facing up. It caused the defense to react which directly lead to better looks and a better percentage.

We need someone who forces the defense into rotations or it will be more of the same
 

kl40504_rivals

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Oct 5, 2018
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Cal’s niche used to be getting Point Guards so good that they didn’t need much coaching. He can’t land those guys anymore so Askew is what you get.

Easy to look good at coaching PG’s when they’re John Wall, Derrick Rose, Brandon Knight, Tyler Ulis, De’Aaron Fox, etc.
Sure Cal just rolls the ball out to his point guards. That is why it took Shai a few games to improve enough to be an excellent point guard for UK.
 

Canned Heat

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Dec 10, 2006
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Well Carr isn't showing up in any mock drafts that I have found. He is ranked #90th in ESPN top 100 of the class. Not in the top 50 per cbs. Not in the two rounds projected by Nbadraft.net. Maybe it's a bit early and maybe he is flying under the radar. But hopefully, he comes back to college to play for us.
 

ALsays

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I know I'm in the minority with this but I really think
Askew is going to surprise us with great imrovement.
At least I'm praying! Good to have back up plan.
 
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Cawood86_rivals

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Feb 20, 2005
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I'm more concerned with how he does with getting by his defender and breaking down the defense than I am with his shooting to be honest.
How is his quickness and speed with the ball in his hand?

UK severely lacked that last year. Had nobody that could create their own shot or get his shot when it was needed.
 
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Cal’s niche is def coaching PG’s. That’s why the Askew situation is such a head scratcher...Cal swung n missed 3 times on that deal but if there’s one thing I’ll leave my trust in with Cal is finding the right PG.

It does seem like he’s waiting on Carr tho. Hope this doesn’t backfire but Im sure Cal has been in contact and has a good idea on the situation.

I don't think Askew was a swing and miss, or at least 3 swings & misses. I think many of you, because of past Cal PGs expected more of Askew than reasonable. I think Askew, and Jackson, and Ware, and Fletcher were Cal transitioning from mostly OAD and 1-2 possible longer term players, to mostly longer term players with 1-2 OAD. And then Askew played worse than even skeptics expected. But he should improve and I think be decent. But probably not who we want leading the team next year. Maybe by his Jr year.
 

AllBall

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May 5, 2015
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I don't think Askew was a swing and miss, or at least 3 swings & misses. I think many of you, because of past Cal PGs expected more of Askew than reasonable. I think Askew, and Jackson, and Ware, and Fletcher were Cal transitioning from mostly OAD and 1-2 possible longer term players, to mostly longer term players with 1-2 OAD. And then Askew played worse than even skeptics expected. But he should improve and I think be decent. But probably not who we want leading the team next year. Maybe by his Jr year.
Askew was historically bad. His numbers and our record don't lie.
 
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WhiteMamba14

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Askew didn’t play good at all, but he never had a bad attitude or quit working. I think that’s part of why he got a lot of chances. We know he will work his tail off and have a good attitude. He’s going to improve quiet a bit, but we gotta get a pg bc he needs more time to get quicker. The game will slow down for him.
 
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bucsrule8872

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May 30, 2005
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With Carr added and Mintz back we would be much improved from last year.

We would have a very experienced backcourt with a fifth year Carr, a sixth year Mintz, and a fifth year Grady. Throw in Juniors Tshiebwe and Toppin in the frontcourt (and maybe Brooks) and we will have our oldest team under Cal.

Now with an entire offseason and preseason to mesh, maybe we can have a better season.
 

RunninRichie

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Sep 5, 2019
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A lot of fans point out that he's not perfect but he is still pretty damn good and very experienced. I would feel as comfortable with him at PG as most of the freshman we've had running point the past decade
I’d love Carr, but i’m still hesitant due to his 3pt numbers. You can’t be a guard today and not be a good shooter. But, if he can break his man off the dribble and kick out to shooters or drive it to the basket, then there is no problem.
 
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I’d love Carr, but i’m still hesitant due to his 3pt numbers. You can’t be a guard today and not be a good shooter. But, if he can break his man off the dribble and kick out to shooters or drive it to the basket, then there is no problem.

I too am hesitant due to his 3pt #'s. So there are others, some of whom aren't in the portal (yet) that I would prefer from mid-majors, but I would take him. Maybe better shot selection, and confidence in his teammates can improve that up to say 35%. To me that is the minimum acceptable % from 3.

I can't see him getting drafted. He is not special in any way, size, quickness, shooting, ball-handling/running a team. To be drafted you need to be among the best in at least one area.
 
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His experience, combined with Mintz, Grady, Allen and even Askew, would give UK an incredible backcourt next year.
There will be an adjustment period, but Cal won't have to teach these guys how to walk and chew gum at the same time and he won't have to scream all game long.
Grady and Carr can get to the rim, that is a proven fact, so I definitely like the idea of adding Carr.
I would be thrilled with that backcourt next year. I also haven't given up on Brandin from WIS picking us. Would be nice to have another shooter who can come up the right way behind these guys without a ton of pressure on him out of the gate. I wasn't big on Carr starting out, but I'm starting to warm up to him for sure.

He seems like he has the talent I just hope he has a high BB IQ and is a team-first guy.
 

BassProCat

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I just hope Cal doesn’t put all his eggs on Carr and miss out like a lot of recruits.

This but still a lot of time left in FA. Be nice to see Zegarowski name hit the portal and we go after him.
 
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Mike-D

Heisman
Jul 14, 2001
50,136
74,589
113
Gimme Marcus Zega
If Cal is going to play two bigs then he has to have 3 perimeter guys that can shoot and drive.

Yeap, so Carr doesn't really make a lot of sense. Because you know he's starting 2 bigs.
 

UKfan2151

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People like to complain about Carr being a bad shooter, but I don't think he's really a bad shooter. I think his problem has been that he shoots too much. His 3 point shooting this season was only somewhere in the low 30's as far as percentage. But the previous year he shot 36% from behind the arc. That isn't too shabby for a PG, especially one who has some other nice abilities and skills. He's 100x better than Askew and so even if Carr isn't perfect, he'd be a major upgrade over what we had. But if he only takes good shots and doesn't try to force things too much (he'll be surrounded by better talent here), I think his shooting will be plenty adequate. He actually has beautiful form on his jumper.