Like a hanging chad, they still won't concede...

AssEndDawg

Freshman
Aug 1, 2007
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I've answered this question for about 100 Ole Miss friends. Are they just stupid? Can they not all get together and understand that the targeting rules don't apply to a runner with the ball?
 

Faustdog

All-Conference
Jun 4, 2007
4,202
2,775
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I've come to the conclusion that Ole Miss has never actually lost a football game. It's always something, whether it's refs, a replay official, a former coach who's now with another team, ghosts, or players playing out of hate.

John from Finebaum was right. They really are the worst.
 

DamnGoodDawg

Redshirt
Oct 27, 2014
523
0
0
"Battered Wife Syndrome". They are so used to it they make excuse after excuse for why the stay in the house.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

All-Conference
May 28, 2007
18,212
4,354
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Contact first made with right arm plus at the time it happened both the defender and Treadwell are not in control = not targeting.

But don't let facts get in their way.
 

Crazy Cotton

All-Conference
Aug 26, 2012
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I don't get the runner with a ball distinction - where is that in the rules? Here's what I see in the rule book:

Targeting and Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet (Rule 9-1-3)
No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.

KEY INDICATORS

Risk of a foul is high with one or more of these:

  • Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make contact in the head or neck area
  • A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with contact at the head or neck area—even though one or both feet are still on the ground
  • Leading with helmet, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with contact at the head or neck area
  • Lowering the head before attacking by initiating contact with the crown of the helmet

From watching that, it looks like the Auburn player did all or most of those things. Are you saying this rule only applies to defenseless players?
 

TXDawg.sixpack

All-Conference
Apr 10, 2009
2,642
2,705
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Targeting must be done with intent (note that the rule states "Initiate Contact..."). There was no intent by the Auburn player to target Treadwell's head on that play.

He actually places his right hand on Treadwell's chest and appears to be aiming to go over the top of Treadwell without any contact, but Treadwell's head comes up into his path. Yes, helmet-to-helmet contact was made, but there was no intent therefore no targeting.
 

AssEndDawg

Freshman
Aug 1, 2007
3,183
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I don't get the runner with a ball distinction - where is that in the rules? Here's what I see in the rule book:

Targeting and Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet (Rule 9-1-3)
No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.

KEY INDICATORS

Risk of a foul is high with one or more of these:

  • Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make contact in the head or neck area
  • A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with contact at the head or neck area—even though one or both feet are still on the ground
  • Leading with helmet, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with contact at the head or neck area
  • Lowering the head before attacking by initiating contact with the crown of the helmet

From watching that, it looks like the Auburn player did all or most of those things. Are you saying this rule only applies to defenseless players?

You have the wrong rule, the crown of the head rule is basically the replacement for spearing (with a little forearm checking and clothesline in there too). It is illegal everywhere but the Auburn player in no way lead with the crown, he just went helmet to helmet, now called targeting. And YES, the targeting rule is only for a defenseless player and defenseless is defined. Basically, after the catch is made the only possible way to get targeting is if the player is held up, forward momentum is stopped and you take a cheap shot to the head. That does not in anyway apply to the UM/Auburn situation.
 

MabenMaroon

Redshirt
Feb 2, 2014
128
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The tsun faithful need to take a good look at their 'landbearshark" hype video, almost everyone of those "glorified" hits shown on that video would or should be interpreted as targeting or horse collar. All season long, I have heard them pat themselves on their own backs and giggle about "Oooohh! Did you see the hit that so and so put on somebody" ... What a bunch of pussyfied hypocrites!!! They can dish it out but sure can't take it. What do they think they will accomplish with all their bitchin' and moaning, do they think that NCAA or SEC is going to review the play and decide that Auburn needs to forfeit the game?
 

coach66

Junior
Mar 5, 2009
12,719
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I have to say this one has been painful for the Rebs, everyone of them I've

spoken with can't seem to shake it. We all know how they feel to some extent, I hope we don't get to feel it this year.
 
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