Rgarding cow bells, why can't noise levels be compared?

[00dog]

Love the cow bells. Hope everyone brings a cow bell - and rings responsibly. The bells are a great tradition. Sound great in the parking lot, in the stadium, on tv, and on the radio.

But, I would love to see how the noise level, with cow bells ringing, on Scott field compares to the noise level at other conference stadiums.

If our bells cause the decibles to be higher than that found at field level at LSU home games, then maybe they have a valid gripe. If not, they are just trying to hold onto an advantage.

So, if the bells are banned to prevent an "unfair" home field advantage surely the conference will require stadiums to modify their configurations so that noise levels will be the same everywhere. Seems fair. That's what it's all about.

Anyway, I hope the bells continue to be a problem, because

Bells ain't a problem if we ain't winning.

 

[PineGroveBully]

I wondered about that myself. They make such a big deal about Death Valleys noise registering on the Richter scale. What is the difference from that to the noise that 60k cowbells make. Basically they are wanting to penalize us for making the same home field advantage that ther LSU's, UT's, Floridas, and Kentuckies make. They are saying that since you play in a much smaller town on a more rural campus that it is unfair for us to try to mimic the sounds as to give us an advantage, when basically we are happy trying to keep the gameday noise similiar no matter the campus size. I think they should hook a decibel reader to every stadium at its loudest. The loudest number is the new ceiling. As long as cowbells, juju sticks, kazoos, etc, dont make more racket and distract the opponents any more than the ear popping racket that you hear in death valley all should be fair in love and war. As long as your noisemaker isnt electronic and can be carried inside the stadium on one's person without causing bodily harm to those in seats near others, all should be fair. Anything less than that is just slive and his slimy crew bowing down to the tit sucking babies who are petrified that Mississippi State is fixing to huff and puff and blow their lazy *** teams out of the way. Just a thought.

 

[00Dawg]

They have. Our administration used the numbers in the case for legalizing cowbells. The bottom line is that 58,000 people with cowbells were almost exactly as loud as 58,000 people yelling (I think cowbells was actually a little quieter).

 

[paindonthurt_]

LSU, Tennessee, Texas AM, Alabama, etc. shouldn't be penalized b/c they have more fans. I'm not saying cowbells should be illegal but they are artificial noisemakers.

Comparing them to stadium sound of the above isn't fair. What if those same stadiums allowed cowbells?

 

[57stratdawg]

Yeah, I've been told this by several people over the years. "You really can't hear them that much on field level" (paraphrasing).

 

[llmsudawg]

Common sense tells me that the open end of a cowbell is always pointing 'up' when it's being rung. Unless 58K point the open end of the bell towards the field, voices will always be louder.

I have a 'large bell.' The direction I point it makes a difference.

 

[tommyboy1520]

Let's keep in mind that there are never 58,000 (or whatever capacity is at a sold out game) cowbells being rung at a single game. I don't know where I'd put the number, but there is never a game where EVERY State fan is bringing in a cowbell and ringing it. Also, I used to watch games from the sidelines back in the 90s/early 2000s and, while you can hear the bells on the sideline, you can also hear both quarterbacks calling their cadence. Any opposing offensive player that complains they can't hear at the line of scrimmage because of the bells is a liar. The cowbell is a great tradition, but the belief that it gives us an advantage due to noise is a myth.

 

[patdog]

I would guess maybe 30,000 cowbells for a sold out game. Actually, that may be a little high.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

but the belief that it gives us an advantage due to noise is a myth.

....and that myth has become something the rest of the league has decided to control with a rule.

 

[EurekaDog]

SEC has money for a simple solution!...but they don't have the "want to".

For years I've been stating that there is a simple solution to this issue.

1. Buy 3 decibel meters for each crew of referees. (One is for a backup)
2. Hire two "sideline refs" to operate the decibel meters.
3. The refs would be stationed on opposite sidelines at the line of scrimmage.
4. Once the center touches the ball, the refs begin monitoring the noise level.
5. If the noise level (regardless of who or what produces the noise) exceeds a predetermined maximum level, these two "sideline refs" would have their own whistles to stop play. The predetermined maximum level would be the same in all games involving a team from the SEC. (This implies that non-SEC opponents would have the option to ask and pay SEC refs to operate the decibel meters when they play at an SEC stadium.)
6. Upon the first stoppage of play, an announcement would be made from the head referee of why play was stopped. He would also note that further attempts to resume play would be aborted as long as the noise level exceeds the predetermined maximum level.
7. No penalty would be assessed to either team.
8. No discipline, punishment, fine, etc. would be handed down by the SEC office.

 

[uptowndawg]

Talk about throwing a wet towel on a game.

What if the limit is exceeded when almost everyone is yelling and only a few retards are ringing (there will always be a few)? Will everyone need to stop yelling so that we can play the game uninterrupted?

 

[JoseyWales34]

Love the cow bells. Hope everyone brings a cow bell - and rings responsibly. The bells are a great tradition. Sound great in the parking lot, in the stadium, on tv, and on the radio.

But, I would love to see how the noise level, with cow bells ringing, on Scott field compares to the noise level at other conference stadiums.

If our bells cause the decibles to be higher than that found at field level at LSU home games, then maybe they have a valid gripe. If not, they are just trying to hold onto an advantage.

So, if the bells are banned to prevent an "unfair" home field advantage surely the conference will require stadiums to modify their configurations so that noise levels will be the same everywhere. Seems fair. That's what it's all about.

Anyway, I hope the bells continue to be a problem, because

Bells ain't a problem if we ain't winning.

Winner ^^^^^ i honestly believe its a garbage rule

 

[BulldogBlitz]

and the problem lies in the above mentioned, "why penalize UT/AU/UA/etc. for having more (and louder) fans?"

this isn't about noise level being too much in any other place on earth.

 

[JoseyWales34]

I wondered about that myself. They make such a big deal about Death Valleys noise registering on the Richter scale. What is the difference from that to the noise that 60k cowbells make. Basically they are wanting to penalize us for making the same home field advantage that ther LSU's, UT's, Floridas, and Kentuckies make. They are saying that since you play in a much smaller town on a more rural campus that it is unfair for us to try to mimic the sounds as to give us an advantage, when basically we are happy trying to keep the gameday noise similiar no matter the campus size. I think they should hook a decibel reader to every stadium at its loudest. The loudest number is the new ceiling. As long as cowbells, juju sticks, kazoos, etc, dont make more racket and distract the opponents any more than the ear popping racket that you hear in death valley all should be fair in love and war. As long as your noisemaker isnt electronic and can be carried inside the stadium on one's person without causing bodily harm to those in seats near others, all should be fair. Anything less than that is just slive and his slimy crew bowing down to the tit sucking babies who are petrified that Mississippi State is fixing to huff and puff and blow their lazy *** teams out of the way. Just a thought.

GOLD

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

Common sense tells me that the open end of a cowbell is always pointing 'up' when it's being rung. Unless 58K point the open end of the bell towards the field, voices will always be louder.

I have a 'large bell.' The direction I point it makes a difference.

Most of the time they point up a bit naturally. I understand about having a larger one. Those tend to point straight out or even slightly downward. If you are pointing up and can get it to point like a large one, then it will perform like a larger one, resulting in a louder experience.