Cal’s Instagram post

MakinMusic_rivals

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We will be down for a few years when Cal leaves.. because he will leave the cupboard empty for the next coach.

Maybe....we will also be down because the coach that comes in will be unproven. There are no proven coaches who would take the job today. Few, Beard, etc. are still in the unproven category. Few won’t take it because he would crumble in the massive Kentucky program. He’s a west coast, hide at my little school that is happy being somewhat relevant, position. Beard hasn’t proven anything yet. Stevens isn’t leaving the NBA to deal with Kentucky fans and college basketball, even for a lot more money. I could go on and on with examples of unproven.

We are likely looking at an Archie Miller type hire when Cal leaves. It may work out fantastically but the odds are not in our favor. That’s the reason I believe we will be down 4-5 years when Calipari leaves. It will take a shining newcomer some time to get it rolling. He won’t have a stable of horses about to come in to his already successful, final four bound, program like Calipari did in 2009 that are willing to follow him.
 
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Maybe....we will also be down because the coach that comes in will be unproven. There are no proven coaches who would take the job today. Few, Beard, etc. are still in the unproven category. Few won’t take it because he would crumble in the massive Kentucky program. He’s a west coast, hide at my little school that is happy being somewhat relevant, position. Beard hasn’t proven anything yet. Stevens isn’t leaving the NBA to deal with Kentucky fans and college basketball, even for a lot more money. I could go on and on with examples of unproven.

We are likely looking at an Archie Miller type hire when Cal leaves. It may work out fantastically but the odds are not in our favor. That’s the reason I believe we will be down 4-5 years when Calipari leaves. It will take a shining newcomer some time to get it rolling. He won’t have a stable of horses about to come in to his already successful, final four bound, program like Calipari did in 2009 that are willing to follow him.
And I could live with that as long as the program was heading in the right direction. If it wasn’t, and was obvious it wouldn’t, rinse and repeat.
 

Woodrow24

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My facts was accurate as Washington wasn't near 100% and Travis was also playing injured.
You said PJ didn’t play in the SEC tournament but your facts were accurate lol how many more excuses you wanna give? You need to learn the difference between facts and opinions.
 
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The problem is that you didn't mention that the Auburn player, Okeke, was out due to injury. Arguably their best player. That omission rendered your point moot in regards to Washington and Travis' previous injuries.

People keep bringing this up but that same Auburn team without Okeke was 1 point away from knocking out eventual champion Virginia as well.

Not to mention that they dominated Kansas and UNC with Okeke and it's likely they win both of those games as well even without him.
 

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People keep bringing this up but that same Auburn team without Okeke was 1 point away from knocking out eventual champion Virginia as well.

Not worth your time. The same little group travels around together, moving the goalposts. Enjoy the holidays and avoid.
 

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People keep bringing this up but that same Auburn team without Okeke was 1 point away from knocking out eventual champion Virginia as well.

Not to mention that they dominated Kansas and UNC with Okeke and it's likely they win both of those games as well even without him.
Yeah that's not the point. The point is you can't use injuries as the reason for the loss if the other team doesn't have their best player due to injury. Come on man.
 

jessieshorts8

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People keep bringing this up but that same Auburn team without Okeke was 1 point away from knocking out eventual champion Virginia as well.

Not to mention that they dominated Kansas and UNC with Okeke and it's likely they win both of those games as well even without him.
The guy posted untrue info.He said we would have won the championship of PJ and Reid weren't hurt but both played.
 
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Live look-in at some getting psyched up to jump on Instagram and unleash the Kraken on Cal.

"Uh 1 and Uh 2 and away we go."

Briscoe Darling! An all-time great character. Tomorrow I'll be watching the Christmas episode with Ben Weaver assuming the mantle of Scrooge. One of my favorites for Christmas. Thanks for reminding me Baller!
 
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I could understand this if Cal was saying it to the players in private to motivate them, But to say it publically and trying make an enemy out of the media is just a dumb move.
 
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And I could live with that as long as the program was heading in the right direction. If it wasn’t, and was obvious it wouldn’t, rinse and repeat.
Beard hasn't proven anything yet? Wow. I guess getting TT to a FF and the title game isn't enough. He's accomplished as much as Pitino or Cal did before they came here.
You're just hung up on Cal. You think it's Cal or nothing.
 

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And I could live with that as long as the program was heading in the right direction. If it wasn’t, and was obvious it wouldn’t, rinse and repeat.

You may be good with it but the majority on here crying and whining about Calipari would lose their minds in that scenario too. It’s a no win. Better of allowing Calipari to adjust over the next 2-3 years.
 
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You may be good with it but the majority on here crying and whining about Calipari would lose their minds in that scenario too. It’s a no win. Better of allowing Calipari to adjust over the next 2-3 years.
I would be fine with it if Cal really would adjust.He just seems so stubborn that I have my doubts if he will admit some changes need to be made.
 

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Maybe....we will also be down because the coach that comes in will be unproven. There are no proven coaches who would take the job today. Few, Beard, etc. are still in the unproven category. Few won’t take it because he would crumble in the massive Kentucky program. He’s a west coast, hide at my little school that is happy being somewhat relevant, position. Beard hasn’t proven anything yet. Stevens isn’t leaving the NBA to deal with Kentucky fans and college basketball, even for a lot more money. I could go on and on with examples of unproven.

We are likely looking at an Archie Miller type hire when Cal leaves. It may work out fantastically but the odds are not in our favor. That’s the reason I believe we will be down 4-5 years when Calipari leaves. It will take a shining newcomer some time to get it rolling. He won’t have a stable of horses about to come in to his already successful, final four bound, program like Calipari did in 2009 that are willing to follow him.

Your ability to understand the way college basketball works is pitiful.

It doesn't take basketball teams 4-5 years to build a good roster. It doesn't even take a football team that kind of time anymore. You are a Cal fan, just admit it and stop. Calipari goes to no final fours and wins no title in his first few years if not for the players in the program left by BCG. Cal is not a juggernaut.

We are not looking at an Archie Miller type, there's plenty of good coaches up and coming, and UK would attract the best names in basketball. You keep running with your own talking points designed to do nothing but make it appear Cal is the best option and he's clearly not.

worst record in Kentucky history this season. Some of you need to smoke a joint and let that sink in.
 

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You may be good with it but the majority on here crying and whining about Calipari would lose their minds in that scenario too. It’s a no win. Better of allowing Calipari to adjust over the next 2-3 years.

Again, wake up. Calipari has said he will be adjusting to nothing. His goal is to keep the NBA factory moving with or without success. And you're like "yea, let's do that".

This is borderline insanity and some of you better pull back before you look like absolute fools by next season.
 

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Beard hasn't proven anything yet? Wow. I guess getting TT to a FF and the title game isn't enough. He's accomplished as much as Pitino or Cal did before they came here.
You're just hung up on Cal. You think it's Cal or nothing.
I think you totally misunderstood my post. I have been done with Cal for a long time, and wasn’t referring to anything about Beard.
 

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Beard has a better pedigree currently than Cal or Pitino had when they came to UK.

Calipari was known as trouble walking at this point in Beards career. The only program who would touch him was Memphis despite Larry Brown vouching all over the place for him.

Some of you, smh. Ya'll just cannot think through this at all.
 

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Beard has a better pedigree currently than Cal or Pitino had when they came to UK.

Calipari was known as trouble walking at this point in Beards career. The only program who would touch him was Memphis despite Larry Brown vouching all over the place for him.

Some of you, smh. Ya'll just cannot think through this at all.
Don’t know if that’s meant for me or not. I haven’t kept up at all with Beard and have no opinion on him whatsoever. My point ln my other post had nothing to do with him or any coach in particular.
 
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Don’t know if that’s meant for me or not. I haven’t kept up at all with Beard and have no opinion on him whatsoever. My point ln my other post had nothing to do with him or any coach in particular.

Meant for the ones that keep on showing they're totally clueless when it comes to college basketball.
 
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TBH I don't mind Cal doing this.
It shows that he cares about his guys even after they leave UK.

But I think he needs to go over with the fanbase some things.

I really believe that in his eyes, he feels like getting guys to the NBA and having the most talented players is the way to win titles as well.

Which whether or not he's right or not is one thing but I feel like fans need to hear that right now.
He did for sure but is now questioning why its not anymore I think. He thought that way he could cover all bases . . . win games/championships, be known for getting them to the league fast so he can attract the next batch of 5 stars, and satisfy the social warrier in him. But with others int he game now (Duke, Kansas etc) on rhw 5 star train, G league, tranfer portal, and just the plain fact players dont see us as the only place to launch an NBA career anymore. . . its all gotten harder to pull together a championship level team. And you can see the stress on his face from that realization.
 

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Cal has created the myth that he’s irreplaceable. How terrifying is that? Some fans are just a wee bit into idolatry.
I think it is VERY small percentage of people that believe Cal is Irreplaceable. Even most of the ones that act like that know better. They just try to scare people .
 
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Your ability to understand the way college basketball works is pitiful.

It doesn't take basketball teams 4-5 years to build a good roster. It doesn't even take a football team that kind of time anymore. You are a Cal fan, just admit it and stop. Calipari goes to no final fours and wins no title in his first few years if not for the players in the program left by BCG. Cal is not a juggernaut.

We are not looking at an Archie Miller type, there's plenty of good coaches up and coming, and UK would attract the best names in basketball. You keep running with your own talking points designed to do nothing but make it appear Cal is the best option and he's clearly not.

worst record in Kentucky history this season. Some of you need to smoke a joint and let that sink in.

We’ve won championships with 5 different coaches in 5 different decades. We have the means to make someone the highest paid coach in the business at the #1 program of all-time with all the resources & fan support anyone could hope for. I’ll admit that the mere thought of Barnhart making another hire makes me nervous but it’s crazy to think that the candidate list would be anything other than a who’s who of top coaches.

In hindsight BCG wasn’t a good hire but at the time he had a great reputation & most ppl considered him one of the top up & coming coaches in the country. Finding the next guy is the least of my worries. I can kinda understand the younger fans being cautious but the older fans who have been around a while should know better. Our long-term success will never hinge on one coach. You’d think the last 75 years would be proof enough but some fans seem to think this is St John’s or DePaul & once our coach leaves we’ll just fade into irrelevance.
 

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We’ve won championships with 5 different coaches in 5 different decades. We have the means to make someone the highest paid coach in the business at the #1 program of all-time with all the resources & fan support anyone could hope for. I’ll admit that the mere thought of Barnhart making another hire makes me nervous but it’s crazy to think that the candidate list would be anything other than a who’s who of top coaches.

In hindsight BCG wasn’t a good hire but at the time he had a great reputation & most ppl considered him one of the top up & coming coaches in the country. Finding the next guy is the least of my worries. I can kinda understand the younger fans being cautious but the older fans who have been around a while should know better. Our long-term success will never hinge on one coach. You’d think the last 75 years would be proof enough but some fans seem to think this is St John’s or DePaul & once our coach leaves we’ll just fade into irrelevance.

Hey, I started a thread because I'm wondering exactly what you're thinking. Is age the disconnect. Would like see your response in the thread. It's up now.
 
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So what.. this is a Ky basketball forum. Most fans are upset and frustrated with what they see happening to our program.. so they choose this venue to voice said frustrations. Some posters act like royalty simply due to a high post count.
My response is not supporting us being 1-5 on the season I’m referring to people making accounts or who NEVER post just to stir up drama.
 
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We’ve won championships with 5 different coaches in 5 different decades. We have the means to make someone the highest paid coach in the business at the #1 program of all-time with all the resources & fan support anyone could hope for. I’ll admit that the mere thought of Barnhart making another hire makes me nervous but it’s crazy to think that the candidate list would be anything other than a who’s who of top coaches.

In hindsight BCG wasn’t a good hire but at the time he had a great reputation & most ppl considered him one of the top up & coming coaches in the country. Finding the next guy is the least of my worries. I can kinda understand the younger fans being cautious but the older fans who have been around a while should know better. Our long-term success will never hinge on one coach. You’d think the last 75 years would be proof enough but some fans seem to think this is St John’s or DePaul & once our coach leaves we’ll just fade into irrelevance.

Something you bring up is true.....the fanbase has a lot of older fans that feel they are owed another title as they aren't getting any younger and they feel they've logged enough hours watching. Each year that goes by, they get angrier (for various reasons). Messed up way to look at things, but I know a few of them.
 
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I think he cares. He’s just not going to take advice from fans, most of which can’t control their own emotions and throw tantrums after nearly every game, win or lose. Bottom-line he’s in the driver’s seat. Fans can only *****, whine and complain - and sit back and watch.

And not attend games once it's allowed again
 

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Luckily, most employers look at the entire production. They don't throw their milk all over the floor and burn it all down over a bad month or two over an 11 year span. The jealously over his salary is PALPABLE and is driving a lot of this pathetic behavior by some fans.
The delusional mentality of some so-called fans is staggering. Do you think Alabama fans wouldn't be asking the same questions of Saban if even one of his teams finished under .500?
This Kentucky Basketball team will not make the NCAA tournament for the 2nd time under the highest paid coaches' watch. And this time there will be no ready-made excuses of player injuries. Only Calipari and his inept staff assembling a alleged #1 recruiting class of guys who can't hit a bull in the butt.
But, hey it's just a "bad month or two".
Idiot.
 
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