RESPECT from an IU fan

CB3UK

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Nobody is asking anyone to toe the company line. I just think you're wrong. You're just ill because we've had a terrible start and this particular team, which is an outlier under Calipari, seems to be broken and unfixable. I certainly would agree this particular team has been a screwed up mess. There are multiple legitimate reasons for why this team is a mess, though, that are unrelated to the system Cal has been employing. Brooks being out has been huge, and not anyone's fault. Covid-19 screwing up the summer, blue-white game, exhibitions, and a few home cupcakes doesn't help, either. With a normal schedule, we'd likely be sitting at 5-2 or 4-3 at worst right now. We'd have multiple wins over "directional U" but it would be better and the team would have had a better chance to gel.

What I've seen at UK under Calipari is great players every season. I've seen a contender every season except one, and this one would make 2. I've seen a decade of high percentage winning, a title, multiple Final Fours, multiple Elite 8s. I've seen a program that has been the best in the game. This current team, on paper, should be elite. It may yet be. What will things look like here if this team turns it around, wins the SEC, and makes some noise in the NCAA-T?

The other issue is that there is a segment of the fanbase who has hated Cal from the start and pounce any time the team hits adversity. We hear it every season after our first loss. These folks come out of the woodwork. When the team is doing well, they are nowhere to be found. They give no credit to the job Cal does every year preparing a team and helping them maximize the potential. I have little use for folks like that because they have an obvious agenda.
And I just think youre wrong. That and $5 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Im not just ill because of the start. The start are more severe symptoms of something weve seen coming for years. Agree to disagree. Whats going on with the program is a problem.
 

willievic

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If nothing else it shows that Kentucky isn't afraid of playing anyone anywhere, something that nobody can say about coach K.

That is the troll line. They really think we are afraid to play their sorry *** so he thinks coming here and throwing in a passive aggressive cheap shot will some how make his insecure butt feel better.

Colly, well. isn't Cal afraid to? It's BS that Cal will not play Indiana on a neutral court. One year in Indiana and the next year in the YUM CENTER. It would be a sellout and split the tickets, and absolutely great for the fans. Would be better then playing Morehead!

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

revcort

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And I just think youre wrong. That and $5 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Im not just ill because of the start. The start are more severe symptoms of something weve seen coming for years. Agree to disagree. Whats going on with the program is a problem.
Yeah, we can agree to disagree. I think what's going on this season is an aberration, an outlier, and it may yet be corrected. I do understand why folks don't like one and done. My wife hates it. I have loved to see guys like Wall, Cousins, Davis, Towns, and even guys like Murray, Adebayo, Randle, and Herro play at UK. Without Calipari, we don't see any of those guys in a UK uniform. We'd be back to what we were under Tubby, where we got a decent class once every 3 or 4 years. There are multiple ways to do this.
 

willievic

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Believe what you want but I'm not trolling. If I actually thought you all were scared to play Indiana I would come out and say it.

Based on your non conference schedule no way you're scared to play a slightly above average Indiana team.

Slhoosier, thanks for the compliments. Some on here are pi$$ed at the world, and don't know how to be friendly. Never forget, "It's only a game." HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS! From an 81 year old Cat Fan who loves the Cats and good basketball.

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CB3UK

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Yeah, we can agree to disagree. I think what's going on this season is an aberration, an outlier, and it may yet be corrected. I do understand why folks don't like one and done. My wife hates it. I have loved to see guys like Wall, Cousins, Davis, Towns, and even guys like Murray, Adebayo, Randle, and Herro play at UK. Without Calipari, we don't see any of those guys in a UK uniform. We'd be back to what we were under Tubby, where we got a decent class once every 3 or 4 years. There are multiple ways to do this.
And thats exactly why we disagree. Ill go with the method where we dont look like an AAU circus through November and December just to finally watch something that actually resembles college basketball come January or February. Its just bad basketball and a flat out bad product for half the season anymore. If you enjoy that, more power to you I guess. I also could not possibly care less about whos gone and done what in the NBA. The NBA is absolutely unwatchable.
 

kyjeff1

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I guess I'm no better Jeff. I suppose I reacted to your post and not others because I know you're not just a fly-by like so many of the others. Take that as a compliment, because that's what it is. The board is just filled with this constant anti-Calipari anger and hate. We (message board UK fans) seem to have very little charity toward the man who dragged us out the crap BCG got us into and lifted us above the mediocrity Tubby had us living in for a decade when we were irrelevant. I just think he's earned a mulligan. We went to the Elite in 2018. No post-season last year.

But in this particular instance, why argue with the Hoosier fan driving by to say "Good on you UK and Cal" for taking this game? Why correct him? Cal may not have had a say in the opponent change. But I bet he could have vetoed it. I bet he could have said, "Nope, we're not playing that game, not this year!" And they could have just played it off as a Covid issue, which would have been at least half true. But why even speculate that "Nobody should think Cal isn't afraid to play anyone"? It just seems to me to be an unnecessary insult to Calipari. We haven't played a tough home schedule under Calipari, no, but we've played tough opponents every season- mostly neutral site games. UK season ticket holders just want more tough non-conference home games. Cal has avoided those because of young teams every season, yes, but we've still played UNC, UCLA, Kansas, Duke, and so on. I just don't think it was worth correcting, unless you just can't stand for our coach to get ANY credit. That's the way it came across to me. Maybe I took it wrong because the rest of the posts on this board are incessantly bashing our coach.
I get what you're saying, but my post (the one you quoted) was accurate. Cal will not play anyone, anywhere, anytime. He never even responded to WKU and he refuses to play IU, which is ironic given it was an IU fan that I was responding to.

Yeah, maybe Cal does deserve a mulligan, but maybe he doesn't. See, it’s not like Cal just has a bad bunch that doesn't fit together or he has some injuries. No, this is happening because we had 3 guys leave that should be juniors on this team. Yes, I'm including IQ.

Then we had a guy transfer that would have been a huge contributor and Cal is the one that created the departures. It's him that created the culture and it's him that pushed Baker and Juzang to pack up and leave and I have a problem with that. I want UK to matter more than the draft. 2 NIT's in 8 years isn't the gold standard.

But I tell you what, there is nobody on this board that wants UK to win more than me. I don't get off on seeing the team lose and neither does Morg, st Louis, backer, CB3UK or UKfaninnc, but we're accused of wanting the team to lose so we can pile on and it's not true.
 
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BourbonBalz

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Colly, well. isn't Cal afraid to? It's BS that Cal will not play Indiana on a neutral court. One year in Indiana and the next year in the YUM CENTER. It would be a sellout and split the tickets, and absolutely great for the fans. Would be better then playing Morehead!

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
You really, really need to get your facts straight. Cal repeatedly stated he would play Indiana in Indianapolis, Louisville, etc. He just said he’s not going to *** Hall because of how our fans and players were treated the last time. But, Indiana REFUSED to do so and said there has to be a game at *** Hall.
 

RunninRichie

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Thanks for the compliment, but your brethren currently have a “bump this thread when kentucky sucks thread” sooooo. #1987
 
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