This. And I’m sure the scumbag Ratface tries to keep it under wraps so colleges can’t recruit against him.
Is Fat Boy Zion’s mansion empty?
Banchero commits to duke
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This. And I’m sure the scumbag Ratface tries to keep it under wraps so colleges can’t recruit against him.
Is Fat Boy Zion’s mansion empty?
You have no evidence of Banchero taking cash and prizes. Until you do, you look bitter. Why attack a kid's character without evidence? Maybe Duke just has a better recruiting pitch.
what he did in his last 6 means jack if the first 5 have been better....see how that swings?
Doesn't matter. He is as good as a future top 2 pick like Banchero. We are Kentucky! We don't need top picks to win titles here!
Yesterday everyone loved the kid and thought he was great. Today him and his family are cheating scum. Pretty pathetic response by many on here.
Not any longer. The Banchero family is probably unloading furniture as we speak.
For some of the bobbleheads on this board, Calipari has never lost a recruiting battle head-to-head. It's always cheating or some other unprovable accusation.
Duke really liked BJ Boston, but then they all thought they were getting Terrence Clarke.....and then it was DJ Steward. So you can choose to point to who they get and who they "dropped" and I think DJ Steward is an excellent player and will be at Duke and beyond, but I don't selectively make up stories as to why top priorities aren't landed at UK for instance. If you lose a recruitment, doesn't matter why, you lost. If we're going to play preference, then you can remove Jabari Parker, Jahlil Okafor, Wendell Carter, and a few others always thrown in UK face as "losses" out the window because UK staff preferred other players to those guys.
You lose more often in recruiting then you win, just a matter of getting guys who can play that want to come. Sometimes you made a mistake in evaluations and other times you get lucky that guys don't choose your program.
Always hurts to lose a recruit but it hurts 10x worse when it’s Duke .
**** Duke
**** Duke
As far as head to head, Kentucky legitimately invested time/lost on Banchero, Barrett (although after visit he was not ending up in Lexington by no matter which party decided), Bolden (although I will never understand why, Allen was a better prospect), and Ingram.
UK never had a shot or invested much into Giles Jr, Tatum, Reddish, Zion, Carey Jr, Carter or Bagley Jr. Doesn't mean they aren't great players but often making a top 5 or reading an update some take as a serious chance with someone and too often the UK fan base gets misinformed due to the numerous amount of media outlets and Twitter "gurus" who make up stories to draw subscriptions or interest/pretend they are in the know.
Yeah guys... negative things that happen to our program dont bother Baller Cal at all........ its what strangers on a message board say that causes him to go mentally insane, post like 20 times in the thread going after everyone that is frustrated with losing a player people said we lead for.
LOL.
LOL.
nobody is saying Banchero is cheating, we’re saying duke is I mean cmon this is so clear to zion’s situation it’s not even funny.
hah i only respond because i’m bored af usually I make the threads and watch the fireworks
Serious question. Have you made a positive post on this board in the last five years?
We beat duke for Boston and Clarke
Having a serious shot at a player is often more open-ended early on. Ask Cal if he thought he had a shot at Reddish during his junior year, or Tatum, or Giles early on. Part of the reason we get to look back now and assess our chances as minimal in those recruitments is because Duke put us away early on. People forget that there was a point where Duke became the leader; but up until that point I doubt very much that Cal thought he was wasting his time with guys like Tatum and Giles and Zion.
Duke beat us. Early on. Later on. We can debate the time table for each one but the result was the same.
Tbh it doesn't matter who duke gets because if they could not win a title with Zion & Barrett, highly doubtful it will happen with paolo & company. K will under achieve once again
And they beat us for about 60% of our mutually-coveted targets. For top 10 guys it's closer to 70%
UK wins since '12:
Noel
Randle
Booker
Green
Knox
Gabriel
Travis
Montgomery
Clarke
Boston
Diallo
Poythress
Duke wins (using the same liberality as the UK list)
Parker
Okafor
Winslow
Tatum
Giles
Carter
Ingram
Jefferson
Bagley
Bolden
Johnson
Carey
Banchero
Kennard
Barrett
Reddish
Zion
I don't understand this theology. I guess it's a way for people to comfort themselves after losing out on elite guys.
Very rarely does the best or most talented team win a championship. Alot of factors go into winning in a 1 and done format, one of which is just luck. No one can deny the best team in 15 was UK by a mile. But they came up short. It's hard to win a championship Duke has gotten 2 since 2010 UK 1 and they both turn out high caliber players year end and out.
I guess you can make the argument the teams underachieved. But both programs rank in the top tier in wins since 2010. Both programs routinely put them selves in position to make run every year.
And Cal didn't win with guys like Wall and Cousins. The argument slices both ways. Both coaches have one title with freshmen-led teams. Cal does better with freshmen, though.
Tatum/Giles were Duke bound all along. Team USA stuff and we all knew it. It's one thing to be listed and another to lose---some recruitments you stay in just in case, but even early on, everyone knew their preference. Reddish was same thing, hell Cal coaching him on that Team USA team is what helped UK get some attention, but end of day he stuck with where he was locked into go. That isn't revisionist history, it's the truth and if you look back to posts then and what many of us were saying, nothing changed. They went where they were expected.
If you want to talk about Cal not identifying things or listening to some guys on staff about certain recruitments that is a different story. He was told by staff members to not waste any time with Carey Jr and it killed big recruiting once Wiseman was off to Memphis--which was a major loss seeing he was locked into UK. That hurts. Like Cunningham who would've been in Lexington if not for brother hired at Oklahoma State. Those hurt. But Giles, Tatum, Carter, Jones, etc....they were Duke guys all along. Cal even called Tre Jones up to tell him he thinks he's worthy of offer, but figured he was Duke bound so not going to recruit him which was smart but object in recruiting is as much about knowing who is not coming and saving time for those who you have a shot with--which Banchero was and is a big L to Duke, but to throw names out as if all recruitments were same is not realistic.
This is a crushing blow to UK.No need to pretend that it's no big deal.
Sucks, sucks, fat, sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks. We can go as long as you like.
Hmm , Dont seem to care like I used to , he can go get his 7-9 months of NBA training anywhere .
ah, i just said
" @LineSkiCat14 please coordinate Houston-like line up with Coach Cal for 2021 class"
Hell who cares the only person who did less with more is Dean Smith. K has better teams when he has one or two great players and a bunch of good role players. I think that’s a fair assessment given the last 3 or 4 years
We’ve seen lots of smoke. Tigers don’t change their stripes. I don’t take back a thing I said.
Not necessarily in recruiting. But now we don't have kp to turn the diamonds in the rough into dominant big men. Also he isn't here to attract the top big man grad transfers either.
Gonna be tough in the short term
We have lost our touch . Cal needs the diamonds to win amd can’t get them. Whose next in the line
That logic is flawed because what he did in the last 6 is likely what he will keep doing.
pumpers amuse me.