who’s better. Everything you want. worked good with Joe B. Please don’t mention Joker. I see no one there better that would take the job
kentucky should make K Payne coach in waiting
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He wouldn't wait 10 years. Cal's going to force K and Roy watch him command the stage from their wheelchairs.
I like Kenny but he has no experience as a HC and is a UL grad.
Respectfully disagree. Just pay him. If he leaves after we pony up- so be it.
Not everyone is cut out to be a HC. Some are better off being the #2 guy. Payne needs to prove he’s ready to be a head coach. UK is not the place for learn as you go along.
Make him the highest paid assistant in college history.. UK has the money.. And there's nobody in the country that is as good with bigs as he is..
He’s the highest paid right now,sometimes you can’t keep a guy and to that point good luck to him and thanks for being a great assistant
Never works out well. Everyone is replaceable except Cal, and with even him gone, we will keep rolling.
not no but hell no
we should never, ever hire a coach that hasn't recruited and coached a final four team on his own at another school
we should never, ever hire a coach that hasn't recruited and coached a final four team on his own at another school
This idiocy of wanting to name Payne the next coach at UK is abundantly stunning.
Countless examples of assistant coaches or coordinators becoming the head coach and failing; the job requires so much more than the thing they are great at as an assistant. Much like Kentucky basketball, it's not for everyone.
Face it. He wants to leave. His career has become incredibly stagnant. He might find the path to a head coach is better by way of the NBA.
I still remember you stating that this forum was beneath you and then 2 days later you said "I'm back!" [roll]
Let Payne follow his dream to the NBA.
But I hope Cal brings back Antigua instead of adding Flint.
But I hope Cal brings back Antigua instead of adding Flint.
Isn't that coach at Syracuse still coach in waiting? He's been waiting like 30 years. Old Jimmy gonna be running that zone for at least another 7 years.
Payne is 53 years old. He’s been an assistant for 16 years at a total of 2 schools under 2 head coaches. By the time Cal was 53 he had been a head coach for over 20 years at 4 stops with 3 FF’s and on his way to a title. Even Chris Mack who is seen as a late bloomer has been a head coach for 11 years at the age of 50.
If all KP wants is to be an assistant, there is certainly security sitting beside JC.
If he goes to the Knicks, he will at least be in line for a G-league head job.
If things go like they usually do with Thibs, in less than 2 years, he will have pissed off the players, alienated the fans, traded away young talent and draft picks for broken down vets and destroyed any hope. After he’s run out of town, someone will have to step in (KP?) to finish the season, clean up, and once again begin the rebuild.
I don’t blame him for looking elsewhere, whether it’s a financial opportunity or a career change. At some point, it’s got to get old traveling around to gyms to watch kids play, begging them to come play for you, dealing with their handlers, etc. Wish him well if he leaves. Has been a huge asset for UK.
So you don't think UK can find anyone willing to take the job with more appealing credentials than someone with zero head coaching experience?
Just because someone's an outstanding assistant doesn't mean he'd be the same as a head coach. Just look at the example of Orlando Antigua's disastrous stint as an HC. They are two different jobs.
That is Different from “he wants to leave”
And he was assistant at Oregon and since, here... not really stagnant, working his way up.
If he stays then obviously he didn’t want to leave, if he goes without being fired, then apparently he did want to leave.
If he is content then it doesn’t matter what I or anyone else thinks about the direction of his career. My main point is being 53 makes 16 years as an assistant a long time if you want a head coach job. Opportunities tend to dry up the older you get and the longer you stay in one place.
Happy for KP if this is his dream scenario. I wish him well...Calipari will find another coach and UK will move on.
what really.... I love my job...if I am offered more money to do same and maybe increase my exposure, I leave. That does not mean he WANTS to leave.
than is some thick thinking
True enough. I consider Hall a fabulous coach and perhaps the most underrated in all of college basketball. That said, I don’t recall him as being named heir apparent prior to Rupp’s retirement. That was the thing I meant never seems to work well. If Hall was declared Rupp’s successor prior to his retirement, then I stand corrected.
Same can be said about a recruiting trip to UL.
Coach Hall was leaving to take the head coaching job at St. Louis U, but Rupp essentially begged him not to leave (my words not Hall's). Hall said he would only return to UK if Rupp publicly supported Hall as his successor. Rupp did this, but then reneged on this agreement when he was forced to retire.
Source: "Coach Hall - My Life on and Off the Court", Chapter 24, pages 108-112.
Source: "Coach Hall - My Life on and Off the Court", Chapter 24, pages 108-112.
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