Yet, the cheatIng coach, Self, manages to find a way to lose in March.
Your season is likely forfeit anyway. Being loaded is a waste for the Jaycrows.
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Yet, the cheatIng coach, Self, manages to find a way to lose in March.
Your season is likely forfeit anyway. Being loaded is a waste for the Jaycrows.
not at UK under Cal
How good is Sarr?
My Wake Forest friends refuse to discuss basketball with me.
They blame me for Sarr leaving.
Must be good if that is the case.
he was turning it up at the end of the last season tore duke a new one
Pretty good. Btw he hit 76.1% from the stripe.
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I have Wake Forest Tickets. Yes, Sarr is really good. And he's a great Kid, too.
Hard to say his ceiling because Danny Manning was a disaster.
They’re on the same level for sure from what I’ve seen. But every ranking service has Boston a few spots higher.
Well he is just saying that they are very talented, we all know they will be very young so it will probably happen against someone early.
Come March, Cal (a defensive minded coach) will have these guys clicking on offense and defense.
Both UK and KU will be good in March, but UK has the higher ceiling because they have more room to grow.
KU will improve from November to March (pretty much every team does), but the rate of improvement for KU will likely be much less than that of UK simply because of how Cal builds his team and the fact that Cal’s Freshmen tend to make tons of improvement over the course of their first season.
So, KU will likely be good in November and very good in March, while UK will be decent in November and outstanding in March, based on Cal’s track record and the makeup of this team.
I am high on this team’s potential. They are very talented, especially the starting five. But they have never played together in college, so they will take their lumps early and probably look very bad in that first game against an experienced team.
Once they get 30 games together under their belts, though, look out.
High ceiling, if they can reach it.
The exposure between the two are on complete opposite ends of the spectrum, though. If Clarke had played for Sierra Canyon, he’s top 4 across the board, easily. JMO.
You are so right. I really noticed it in the 2012 title game when we beat Kansas ***. Anthony Davis and MKG's defense was suffering, oh I wish they weren't freshman.
I feel like that’s due to Bostons exposure, I’ve seen him play and he’s ELITE. Clarke will be very exciting to see and hope we get a season to take #9.
i’ve got a feeling we come out and blow kansas’ doors off like in 2015 this team is YOKED
Possibly.
But I think Mintz gives us a bit of an insurance policy in case Askew is not ready.
In other words, I think we can win a title without Askew being sensational because we have a safety net with 3 years of high D-1 college experience.
I personally think that with Mintz and Askew we are in great shape at PG. Neither one is Wall/Fox 2.0, but they don’t have to be on this team.
I think we’ll be more skilled and experienced than ppl realize.
the two freshman we’l lean on aren’t the “let them figure it out and they’ll start to click by the new year” type.
they’re the type that will shine through spots of inconsistency/shot selection/learning team D, but immediately both be able to average 15 ppl.
both are HiGH level scorers that won’t need time to adjust as far as getting buckets is concerned.
Save Askew (who has Mintz to either lead or support him) most everyone else projected to start has been there before.
the two freshman we’l lean on aren’t the “let them figure it out and they’ll start to click by the new year” type.
they’re the type that will shine through spots of inconsistency/shot selection/learning team D, but immediately both be able to average 15 ppl.
both are HiGH level scorers that won’t need time to adjust as far as getting buckets is concerned.
Save Askew (who has Mintz to either lead or support him) most everyone else projected to start has been there before.
He started out at Wake as only a 3star guy but he has developed. He was raw and scrawny as a freshman, but he has bulked up, now 7-0 255lbs. He's very long, very strong, a rebounding machine, great defender and has become a solid scoring option in his own right. He averaged 13.9 points on 52.7% shooting and 9.0 rebounds for Wake Forest last season. He got better and better as the season progressed last year and finished the regular season by scoring 20.2 pts and grabbing 10.8 reb and shooting 65.5% over his last 5 games. He did all this as the primary focus of every defense since he was the best player on a bad team last year. He'd still be there if they kept Danny Manning.
As I say, he is the key to being a title contender. This team is talented enough to make a run without him, but he is the guy who will take us to the next level. We have talent and scorers at every position but until he signed we didn't have a true 5 who could match the rest. But he can do it, and he's been through D1 conference road games and has valuable experience.
Here's another promising factoid.
This past season, Sarr averaged 14 points, nine rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game while recording a 26.1 Player Efficiency Rating. That would have been the highest mark of any Wildcat scholarship player since Karl-Anthony Towns (31.4) in 2014-15.
For comparison, Nick Richards finished last season with a 25.8 PER last season. PJ Washington had a 26.0 PER in 2018-19.
https://www.aseaofblue.com/2020/5/2...dcats-basketba-uk-recruiting-wake-forest-news
No doubt about it. Olivier reverses the "5" from a Deficit to Asset.
3rd Team All ACC + Experienced
If this season's team was a team on 2K and you had to make a player to fit perfectly, you would make Sarr
Why do we do this to ourselves every year lol why. Anymore I just wait and see...the offseason hyperbole is always so beyond the pale. A lot of this Sarr stuff is the same stuff folks were going on about with Reid Travis.
I dont question whether we have individual talent. But we have an entire freaking new team save for Keion. Maybe these dudes click right off the bat (lets hope so!) or maybe they take until Jan/Feb to start rolling.
You take the wildest turnover of the Cal era and pair it with this covid crap and we are in for one extremely unique season.
I dont question whether we have individual talent. But we have an entire freaking new team save for Keion. Maybe these dudes click right off the bat (lets hope so!) or maybe they take until Jan/Feb to start rolling.
You take the wildest turnover of the Cal era and pair it with this covid crap and we are in for one extremely unique season.
That tweet is the primary reason Cal went after this guy I believe.
Getting to the line and offense rebounding have been staples since Cal has gotten here but it's slipped over the past few years. Getting a guy like Saar is going to help in that aspect big time.
Agree. As well as Nick played this past season, Sarr looks like he can even improve on that.
College talent is guys who are experienced, but not good enough for the NBA. It has been shown that you need a couple of first round picks to win a title, not sure if Kansas has that kind of talent.
Agree. Last season was the year to do that.
Last Season: 28-3, 17-1 in Big 12
Lose (3): C Udoka Azubuike* (13.7 ppg, 10.5 rpg), Devon Dotson* (NBA Draft, 18.1 ppg, 4.0 apg), SG Isaiah Moss (7.9 ppg)
Starters Back (3): G Marcus Garrett (Sr., 9.2 ppg), SG Ochai Agbaji (Jr., 10.0 ppg), PF David McCormack (Jr., 6.9 ppg)
Other Returners (3): G Christian Braun (Soph., 5.3 ppg), PF Silvio De Sousa (Sr., 2.6 ppg), SF Tristan Enaruna (Soph., 2.4 ppg)
Redshirted (3): F Mitch Lightfoot (RS Sr., 2.4 ppg), F Jalen Wilson (RS Fr.), G Dajuan Harris (RS Fr.)
Add (4): SG Bryce Thompson (No. 27), SF Tyon Grant-Foster (JUCO), C Gethro Muscadin, PG Latrell Jossell
I hate to be Johnny Raincloud, but I kinda agree. We always hype these guys up way too much in the offseason. Sometimes, they're are as good as advertised, but a fair amount of times they aren't (at least not for a while or ever). I've learned not to hop on the hype train until I've seen a couple games against real competition. We've had an awful lot of five stars, burger boys, and too high preseason rankings ...and one banner to show for it. I'm always excited, but have just learned to curb my expectations some over the years.
We will take some lumps early on. This is a brand new team. No one has played a single minute of D-1 ball together. It is going to take time to develop chemistry.
I think they lose 6-7 games if the season is normal length. We will likely be in the 2-4 seed range.
But after 30 games, Cal will have them clicking on all cylinders.
We will likely go into the tourney as maybe the most dangerous team not on the 1 seed line.
The individual talent is there and Cal is the best at getting teams to play together in just one season.
I just think this team will take a little more time to mesh because there is only one guy back who has played for Cal before.
Do you really believe this?
Putting talent level aside for a moment, are the two games really all that different?
I mean it seems like you are confusing experience with talent. If UK has more NBA talent, they have more college talent too. The guys that get drafted and end up in the NBA, which of those players don't have successful college careers as well. The majority do.
You can argue from an experience standpoint tho with KU I suppose even tho I agree with Cal when he said if he had a choice between the two he was taking talent every time.
I gamble and enjoy making money, so looking at things objectively is how I try to be. I do like when Cal gives an early big time vote of confidence. That makes me feel better about getting earlier cohesion. But lets be real....we have Keion back. Maybe lets be reasonable and wait and see what weve really got. I know thats gonna go over like a lead zeppelin on this board, oh well. I HOPE these guys come together and just have a natural team chemistry and are their brothers keeper like Cal preaches. Lets be real, we had some behind the scenes personality drama last year that bleed onto the court. Just because we have essentially cleaned house doesnt mean its a bad thing, but I think its reasonable to say hey...maybe pump the breaks people.
Agree with both of you. Im not trying to be Debbie Downer either. Just realistic.
I enjoy myself just fine by being reasonable about my expectations. The frustration generally stems from the overwhelming summer optimists who come crashing down when they struggle early on for entirely foreseeable reasons. Myself personally, Im at the point with basketball where I take it with a grain of salt.
I was so happy to get to just watch exhibition baseball yesterday. Reds back in action. So I think the way things are going, even though Ive been somewhat disinterested with UK basketball the past few seasons compared to my younger days in college, I think its just going to be such a welcome respite. It feels like this could be a real fun season.
Well-adjusted people with perspective can have a super positive outlook and be fine with adjusting their expectations on the fly.
There’s not a lot of that going on around here. Generally the people who beat their chests about his great we’re going to be in July are the same people losing their damn minds when we look like AAU ball in November.
For me, I’m somewhere more on the pragmatic side. I think it’s being realist to have tempered expectations of a team with as little returning experience as we’ve ever had. We’ll see. The team has great potential, I’ll leave it at that.
nah I don’t see the point in getting mad at the team early on we’ve had 11 years of this we know the drill but some choose to screech from the rooftops when we play bad in december and november knowing we’ll pick it up in February and march.
Exactly.
Mintz is a very good college player.
Mintz averaged nearly 10ppg in his last season at Creighton. That was in 2018-19. The Big East has been pretty good over the time that he has played there, so it’s not like he has faced inferior competition.
97 games under his belt, that’s more than Reid Travis played before arriving. 79 starts, so he isn’t a scrub off the bench.
If Askew wins the starting job, then he has earned it given the competition.
i think Vegas has UK with the forth best odds of cutting the nets down
every fanbase of every sport gets excited when a high level recruit signs
most of the time the expectations are lofty
we are now seeing that with football recruits (loving it)
i would much rather have lofty expectations then ho-hum expectations
but to each their own