You better believe I miss it. I would be getting to watch Luka Doncic play regularly. I usually watch the NBA pretty closely at the beginning before UK starts, then again after NCAA ends. But since Doncic has been here, I've watched a ton more Mavs games during the regular season.
Is anyone missing the NBA?
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It's not even basketball. I don't know what you call it but it's a far cry from what it was during the old days. I haven't watched a NBA game in over 30 years and don't plan to start. It's boring and predictable. If it's not a dunk or a three point shot then no one scores. No mid-range game whatsoever and there's a foul called on literally every trip down the court. Players get away with traveling and who knows what really constitutes a foul. Sadly, the College Game is headed in the same direction and is already close to being there. Tried to watch a few Maverick's games but simply could not get into it.
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One that you obviously have no clue about. The NBA today resembles YMCA pickup games, at best.
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This clown claims he hasn’t watched basketball in 30 years yet he can tell us what goes on in today’s game . Funny
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A lot of opinions here. I like it.
Personally, I find the modern game with its emphasis on isolation and 3-point shooting to be very dull. There are many plays in the NBA that occur that, to me, are just plain bad basketball. 1-on-4 step back 3s, insanely forced shots, etc. Then you have the 3 and 4 steps allowed for some players and not others, inconsistent officiating, end of game rules where they advance the ball past midcourt, etc.
Watch films of the Trailblazers with Walton or the 80s Celtics and see the ball move, team defense, surgical fastbreaks. To me, that's the epitome of basketball. Watching James Harden, as special a talent as he is, take 3 steps and jack up another step back 3 or drive to the hoop and the ref calls a foul before there's any contact, just makes me want to puke.
From an athletic standpoint, the NBA has never been better. From a basketball standpoint, I can hardly stand to watch more than half a quarter.
Personally, I find the modern game with its emphasis on isolation and 3-point shooting to be very dull. There are many plays in the NBA that occur that, to me, are just plain bad basketball. 1-on-4 step back 3s, insanely forced shots, etc. Then you have the 3 and 4 steps allowed for some players and not others, inconsistent officiating, end of game rules where they advance the ball past midcourt, etc.
Watch films of the Trailblazers with Walton or the 80s Celtics and see the ball move, team defense, surgical fastbreaks. To me, that's the epitome of basketball. Watching James Harden, as special a talent as he is, take 3 steps and jack up another step back 3 or drive to the hoop and the ref calls a foul before there's any contact, just makes me want to puke.
From an athletic standpoint, the NBA has never been better. From a basketball standpoint, I can hardly stand to watch more than half a quarter.
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I have to agree with most of what you said. I watched the NBA from the mid-60's through the late '80's until it became unwatchable. The players are certainly more athletic but the game itself is awful. You are correct regarding the ball movement and team basketball played by teams such as the Blazers and I would add the Bucks, Lakers, Celtics and Knicks to the list. The Lakers and Celtics had some monumental battles and the Bucks were great with Jabbar. The Knicks with Walt Frazier, Willis Reed and company were a great team as well.
I will agree the isolation stepbacks can be annoying . I think guys take too many unnecessary dribbles and could easily get to their spot without doing all of that .
With that said I think people overrate the defense in the 80s. The points per game average in the 80s is on par with today’s game and that’s with guys barely taking 3s back then. Today’s game the Points per game average is 111.4 ppr while in the 1984-1985 season the points per game average in the NBA was 110.8 per game . Now how they get those points is completely different but every era in every sport has a different style of play .
Some of you guys should watch the NBA more instead of just the Harden highlights you see on ESPN. If you watch teams like Milwaukee, Dallas, Denver, Toronto and others you will see really great team offenses being run.
Agreed
Nobody can convince me that we are seeing beautiful ball movement in college these days. Those days have been long gone . The defense in college looks solid because the offense is so terrible and stagnant .
“It’s not even basketball”
but you also say you haven’t watched a single game in 30 years.
How can you say all these things when you yourself admit you’ve not even watched a full series or even 1 full season much less one single game in three decades?
I am.
I enjoy watching athletes compete at the pinnacle of sport greatness.
I enjoy watching athletes compete at the pinnacle of sport greatness.
College ball is sooooooo slow compared to NBA.
And some of the mid level teams look awful.
Very slow it’s hard to watch. I watch all of Kentucky games because I love them but I can’t say I love the flow of the game . The officiating in the SEC is way worse than the NBA. Probably the worst officiated conference in College .
Just a little bit; I watch a tad whenever the playoffs start. I'm probably missing pga most...that's the salve I usually use to take the sting outta UK's season ending
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I say it because I can. Look again; I also said that I tried to watch a few Maverick's games and they were so boring that I stopped at the half. For anyone that appreciates actual basketball it's unwatchable.
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A lot of them do look awful but that's what makes the College game interesting, right now at least. Lots of upsets occur when better teams don't take bad ones seriously. However, some of the mid-major teams are better than one thinks. Not saying it's the norm but there are a couple that come out of no where and turn out to be fairly solid. For example, would have been interesting to see how East Tennessee State would have done in the tournament, had there been one.
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They have a cricket league in Irving Texas that plays games twice a week. We could tape some of their matches for you, lol.
Tbh, outside of the NCAAT I actually haven't missed sports like I thought I would. I'm reading more books, learning French, doing more cycling and running, and spending more quality time with family.
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I think you must be confused and thinking about college basketball. Fouls per game over the past decade have been at the lowest level in NBA history.
I'm bored so I'll chime in . I had to ask myself " is it NBA season" so I guess the answer is a soft no .. I watch some playoffs but thats about it . I might tune in for something special , like a team or player I like. But in general the politics of the NBA has turned me off , yes I'm talking Silver , Lebron , Pops , and Comrade Steve Kerr . But if they game were good enough I'd tune in more often . I LOVED LOVED LOVED the Spurs with Manu , Duncan and T Parker . Great team ball. Unselfish , and Pop was a GREAT coach in a short series . But I tune in today and see James Houston dribbling the clock down and taking 45 shots a game and flopping like dead fish and find the promotion of this approach appalling . There is no pride in playing for a team . Can you imagine Bird going to the Pistons ? Isiah T going to the Bulls . Guys seriously didnt like each other. It was a serious competition , not the boys club we see now . Ok get off my lawn see ya .
Since moving to Denver, I've attended a couple of Nuggets games each year and, while they are better than the average NBA team with regards to 'team ball', there are still plenty of plays during a game where my HS coach would've jerked me out of the game immediately if I'd done that. Last game I attended, Paul Milsap took at least 3 3-point shots where he was the first and only Nugget across midcourt and I just cringed.
CBB is very watered down and not a very good product right now. Atrocious officiating only makes it worse.
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Like I said, I quit watching the NBA and you may be right. Not confused at all; officiating in College Basketball, especially in the SEC, has become awful. Last time I did watch a NBA game it was that way as well, however, I really don't care anything at all about the NBA.
I don't see how someone can HATE the basketball being played in the NBA, but have no problems with how it's played in college.
Did you enjoy watching 50 fouls called a night in the SEC?
(I see others have touched on this already).
IDK, Not sure what everyone's problem is with the NBA. Seems a lot of people need a scapegoat for why we didn't have John Wall for 4 years. The NBA is a great product this time of year.
This is actually getting better. If you ask me, society demonized black NBA players so much in the late 90's early 2000's, that the league had to shift as much as possible to this "good guy" league. Where everyone is friends, no one gets in trouble, etc. It's not ALL because of that, but I don't think the NBA had a good image in the 2000's.
The NBA is going back to rivalries, players not liking other players, more on-court scuffles.. while still staying a way from the days of choking coaches and bringing guns into the locker room.
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Didn't say I liked watching a foul fest every night in college basketball, especially the SEC. Bottom line; you have your opinion of the NBA and I have mine. I don't care for it but if others do it's your call. The problem for a lot of older posters, such as myself, is that it's not as fun to watch as it was in other eras, but then again, that's my prerogative.
yeah I pretty much dont see it that way . Some guys demonized them selves . Society appropriately judged.
The whole league shouldn't be judged because of 10% of the ****** players, though. Lot more trouble makers back then.
Some people won't like the NBA either way. I'm just saying it's become a much better product than what many probably remember.
To be more exact do you think society either offered any judgement or proper judgement to black players in the 90's ? Im not even sure how the average guy " judges" an NBA player ? Chooses not to watch or attend ? I clearly stated why I dont like todays game .. its whiny , its not at all team oriented , there is zero loyalty , and the stars can be real a holes ( Lebron)
If you don’t think the game is teams oriented you are probably only watching a select few teams. There are a lot of really good ones as I have stated earlier in this thread. The stars have always been real a holes. There isn’t much loyalty but the system was never designed for loyalty, the players are just now catching on to what the teams have done for years.
Thanks. Now, in order to be a hell of a dude, do I need to be old first? Can I be a hell of a young and/or middle aged dude? Or is being “old” a prerequisite?
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