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UK All-Time Draft Playoffs Rupp'sRunts vs. JHannibalSmith

Who would win head to head

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Welcome to the 2nd round and participating in the 1st All-Time UK Draft and now Playoffs

The goal of the draft was to assemble a roster from 1974-75 team to present day.

Voters please vote on the team you think will win head to head. Your vote will be public and you will be allowed to change your vote if the debate changes your mind.

Playoff Bracket https://challonge.com/UKDraft

@Rupp'sRunt - D. Fox, D Cousins, Doron Lamb, Devin Booker, Andre Riddick, Keldon Johnson, Andrew Harrison, Dakari Johnson, Perry Stevenson, Hami Diallo

@JHannibalSmith - Ron Mercer, Sam Bowie, Dirk Minniefield, Kelenna Azubuike, Walter McCarty, Mark Pope, Jim Master, Jimmy Dan Conner, LeRon Ellis, Larry Johnson
 
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IT's crazy to watch ppl that voted for you vote against you now ha.

Edit: A vote for Hannibal is a vote for John Higgins. Don't let Fox Booker Harrison and Dakari get screwed again.
 
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If we are using a 3 point line in this game. Pretty sure Booker and Lamb are dropping 60 combined.
 
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Rupp'sRunt said:
If we are using a 3 point line in this game. Pretty sure Booker and Lamb are dropping 60 combined.
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On Mercer and Azubuike? Nah. Not quite. If you took both of their respective career highs and added them up, you’d get 51 points. Even in a more defined role, Bookers not making up that difference. He had multiple games over 27 minutes and never broke 20 points. This isn’t NBA Booker.
 
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Assuming 81 Bowie.

Mercer.

Close but sorry RR.

Another thing why did you pick Diallo?

Was Bo Lanter already taken?
 
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drcats2013 said:
On Mercer and Azubuike? Nah. Not quite. If you took both of their respective career highs and added them up, you’d get 51 points. Even in a more defined role, Bookers not making up that difference. He had multiple games over 27 minutes and never broke 20 points. This isn’t NBA Booker.
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Ah I get you want to play the inferior team. 27 minutes in multiple games doesn't mean much on the platoon team everyone needed shots on that team. Cant handicap arguably the best player on the team just bc of amount of shots going around. Booker plays more we probably win the ship. Also Mercer is being guarded by KJ. Booker was a Lotto pick lets not act like he wasn't a contributor in college, not to mention he shot 42% from 3.
 
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the nail at the foul line said:
Ron Mercer was a killer. So were Fox and Lamb. 81 Bowie was too quick for Cousins.
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Sure a killer, but I've got the 2 best 3 point shooters to ever grace the hardwood for UK, maybe Jodie fights one of em off. Cousins would plow Bowie into next week so hard his leg would break far before he gets drafted in the NBA. Fox is head and shoulders above Minni and would create so many open shots for shooters. Think with your head here not your biased old heart.
 
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Rupp'sRunt said:
Ah I get you want to play the inferior team. 27 minutes in multiple games doesn't mean much on the platoon team everyone needed shots on that team. Cant handicap arguably the best player on the team just bc of amount of shots going around. Booker plays more we probably win the ship. Also Mercer is being guarded by KJ. Booker was a Lotto pick lets not act like he wasn't a contributor in college, not to mention he shot 42% from 3.
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If I wanted to play the inferior team I’d vote for you. I’m just debunking the crazy notion that your two guys would combine for 60 points against Hannibals very good team.
 
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drcats2013 said:
If I wanted to play the inferior team I’d vote for you. I’m just debunking the crazy notion that your two guys would combine for 60 points against Hannibals very good team.
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2 players that shoot approximately 50% from 3. Shoot 20 3's theres 60 points. Easy maffs :D . Not to mention how many and 1s they get after they start hot. Maybe even 80.
 
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GoBigBlue712 said:
Shooting 50% on 20 threes would be 30 points. Unless you meant both shoot 20 threes.
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Lol when I said that it was Hyperbole, but yeah Lamb and Booker are open enough we can shoot 40 3s. We aint going 2/36 or whatever it was in 2010. Just trying to convey the pure stroke that is lamb and booker.
 
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Rupp'sRunt said:
Sure a killer, but I've got the 2 best 3 point shooters to ever grace the hardwood for UK, maybe Jodie fights one of em off. Cousins would plow Bowie into next week so hard his leg would break far before he gets drafted in the NBA. Fox is head and shoulders above Minni and would create so many open shots for shooters. Think with your head here not your biased old heart.
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Are you old enough to have seen Bowie & DM play? Minniefield is one of our best PGs ever & was All-SEC 3 times. He’s the all-time assist leader & top 10 in steals. He played in the NBA too & was super athletic. He wasn’t as fast as Fox (few are) but he wouldn’t be dominated either.

And, you think KJ can guard Mercer? Lol. Even if you’re dreaming you should wake up & apologize to Mercer. Azubuike would own Lamb. I love Lamb & he’s a better shooter than KA but that’s the only advantage he has. And, you’re playing with one arm behind your back by starting Riddick. He’s completely useless offensively.

I really like your team & don’t wanna trash them but damn you’re unloading on my team like it’s a bunch of scrubs & you sound like somebody who’s never seen them play. Experience matters too & most of your players had no clue what they were doing while at UK. Inexperience & too much dead weight on your roster is the difference. Playing Riddick, Stevenson, KJ & Diallo is bringing butter knives to a gun fight. If we factor in NBA success then you win & it’s not really close. Although, everyone on my team played in the NBA except for Master. But, if we’re talking UK only it’s a completely different story.
 
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JHannibalSmith said:
Are you old enough to have seen Bowie & DM play? Minniefield is one of our best PGs ever & was All-SEC 3 times. He’s the all-time assist leader & top 10 in steals. He played in the NBA too & was super athletic. He wasn’t as fast as Fox (few are) but he wouldn’t be dominated either.

And, you think KJ can guard Mercer? Lol. Even if you’re dreaming you should wake up & apologize to Mercer. Azubuike would own Lamb. I love Lamb & he’s a better shooter than KA but that’s the only advantage he has. And, you’re playing with one arm behind your back by starting Riddick. He’s completely useless offensively.

I really like your team & don’t wanna trash them but damn you’re unloading on my team like it’s a bunch of scrubs & you sound like somebody who’s never seen them play. Experience matters too & most of your players had no clue what they were doing while at UK. Inexperience & too much dead weight on your roster is the difference. Playing Riddick, Stevenson, KJ & Diallo is bringing butter knives to a gun fight. If we factor in NBA success then you win & it’s not really close. Although, everyone on my team played in the NBA except for Master. But, if we’re talking UK only it’s a completely different story.
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I simply think Bowie and Minni played versus inferior talent compared to the players these days in age. The accolades are nice but All my players would've gotten them had they stayed 4 years as well. I even said mercer was a beast. Lamb could definitely hold his own against Bukie he's 6'5 ppl seem to think lamb is 6'2. Really think you're underestimating KJ hami and Riddick.
 
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BassProCat said:
Some wire transactions going down behind the scenes.

I’m loyal to ya bro
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I've had like 3 voting flips.

 
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Everyone who flipped on me has the chance for redemption. If not you're a Carole F*ckin Baskin we all know you're getting paid to go after me "Joe exotic."
 
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the nail at the foul line said:
Assuming 81 Bowie.

Mercer.

Close but sorry RR.

Another thing why did you pick Diallo?

Was Bo Lanter already taken?
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Diallo is an elite athlete he's basically Malik monk with out the jumper but can defend 2-3 positions and an elite athletic slasher. Not to mention he was one of the only players to play lock down D on that team not to mention the Kstate NCAAT game where he played his *** off defensively on a sprained ankle.
 
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Rupp'sRunt said:
I simply think Bowie and Minni played versus inferior talent compared to the players these days in age. The accolades are nice but All my players would've gotten them had they stayed 4 years as well. I even said mercer was a beast. Lamb could definitely hold his own against Bukie he's 6'5 ppl seem to think lamb is 6'2. Really think you're underestimating KJ hami and Riddick.
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They may have played against inferior athletes overall but definitely not inferior talent. The 80s had no shortage of athletes, there are just more athletic guys now, numbers wise. They played against the same kinda size & talent as now except it was against JRs & SRs & not underclassmen dominated teams.

Issel was before my time but I’m not gonna say he couldn’t play in the 80s or today just bc there weren’t as many athletes in his era. I’ve watched college basketball religiously since 78 & today’s game is **** compared to the 80s & 90s. Players were much more skilled & knew how to play. Teams were better bc they had played together 3-4 years. I don’t deny that most of your guys would’ve been unreal as upperclassmen. But, they left early & so we have to look at them as freshmen.

Today’s guys are more athletic on the whole but they aren’t better basketball players. Bowie & Minniefield were playing against Barkley, Olajuwon, Jordan, Worthy, Isaiah Thomas, Dominique Wilkins, Ewing, etc. They are much more battle tested than current guys playing against underclassmen who dk what they’re doing. College basketball has been garbage the last 10-15 years compared to the 80s & 90s.
 
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JHannibalSmith said:
They may have played against inferior athletes overall but definitely not inferior talent. The 80s had no shortage of athletes, there are just more athletic guys now, numbers wise. They played against the same kinda size & talent as now except it was against JRs & SRs & not underclassmen dominated teams..
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Just think My frosh O&D players are more talented than the old school players, except for the obviously top players. Your bench has nothing on mine.
 
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