There are 203 players in the 2020 transfer portal right now. Damn that Calipari! This isn't just a Kentucky thing, but continue on with your agenda.
https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basketball/TransferPortal/
Juzang transferring
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There are 203 players in the 2020 transfer portal right now. Damn that Calipari! This isn't just a Kentucky thing, but continue on with your agenda.
https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basketball/TransferPortal/
It would definitely correlate to who is coming in, in addition to who is returning. If we weren't getting two top 7 kids that both play the same positions JJ plays, he would get more than enough playing time to want to stay.
He can't run the point, so he's a 2/3 and the guys coming in are going to be too good for JJ to break through.
Exactly. Let’s all blame all the other transfers. You can blame other achoola I’d you want. I only care about UK.
OK. Dragon was during the year, Juzang after. Would you rather have Dragon stay and take Juzang and Brooks minutes ??? Can't have it both ways. Dragon leaving hurts us absolutely NONE. Juzang ? maybe, we have guys better.
Brad ? Really ? A GD walk on, coaches son, that every fan including YOU made fun of ?
Quade 100% addition by subtraction. If he does not leave PJ stays as he was before he left. It was known Quade had a terrible attitude and 100% was a bad influence on PJ, lazy.
Baker - Left being a role player at UK to being a role player at Arizona. - Dodson, Poole, Harrow ? LOL, we need to do a where are they now on these guys. Harrow did have a cute dog though, kind of liked it. Kid laid in bed with his dog, yeah, Dawg mentality, just not the right kind. You rather they had stayed ? Wiltjer - decent, but who was he taking minutes from ? Lee ? Couldn't produce at Cal. SKJ - Ha ha ha. Oh boy. Wynyard - might need him if there is shortage of gas , he could maybe chop wood around campus.
Matthews is the only player who left that did diddly ****.
Now, go count transfer of every other team, not in the NCAA, but the SEC only. then get back to me. Also, look at the transfer portal. How many are in there ? The type of players that USUALLY go in it, we don't need / wanted. If a kid is looking to go from small school to big school, I like (he is trying to come up), but when a player leaves UK for a lesser school, it says all you need to know about HIM not the school. MOST of the time, some have a real good reason to leave other than can't beat out the competition or hack the pressure to play here.
This is a bad thread,this isn't the University of Juzang,it's the niversity of Transf......er,I mean the University of Kentucky. Damn I need a drink and it's only 10:10 AM
Its not the end of the world who know how good he was going to be really only had a couple of good games of course he could have been a much better player next yr but maybe some of the incoming players could be much better and of course there is Allen also.
Then why is Cal recruiting these guys? If it’s not for long term team building over 4 years, then why is he going after them? To go and recruit these guys, then to only have them leave after 1/2 years when they are only transferring, why recruit them. Humphries has a great game against UNC, and then he leaves, JJ had a good game against UF and then he leaves. If these type of guys get recruited, then transfer after 1/2 years, what is the purpose? What are they or UK gaining from it?
Well, other than Nick, UK has become the University of transfers and 3rd round NBA draft picks.
That isn't blame.
That isn't the point, the other 200+ and likely growing transfers are not the cause of Juzang's but they do logically represent the context and environment that transfer happens in.
Kentucky Basketball is the crown jewel of college basketball but it still operates in and is a part of the sport.
Context always matters in the real world.
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Over the years we've had quite a few good players transfer, for whatever reason. Rupp had Bob Talent, who was actually kicked off the team as well as Mark Soderberg and Randy Noll, plus another player whose name I can't recall that transferred to Southern Illinois and became their leading scorer. Hall had Chuck Alexsinas, Dwight Anderson just to name a couple. Tubby had about 15 players transfer from his program, some good some bad but the point is that it happens and some players just aren't happy. Could be style of play, homesickness, conflict with teammates, who knows what these kids are thinking?
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We just had two lottery picks and three first rounders total the last draft.
We brought back Richard's, Quickley, Hagans, and Montgomery this year.
The statement is at least hyperbolic especially considering the draft is two rounds and Cal has no more transfers than Tubby did, many of whom were irrelevant and some of which were upgraded.
The only two that really matter were Wiltjer who couldn't star for us because his defense was so poor so he had a 6th man ceiling and Matthews who would have had a very significant role but elected to sit out.
Most of the rest I may have preferred to keep over losing but in the end made little to no actual difference other than in a few cases making the team better like Green and probably Whitney as well.
In the end this is something to ***** about more than an actual problem. Juzang has nice potential so it is actually one that is higher on the pain scale but in general this issue is overstated to me.
[roll]Fairly certain that's not what I was implying at all.
[roll]Thankfully Cal is driven by winning and I'm glad he is , along the way he swings and misses , although its infrequent and I'm glad we have him and not anyone else. I just dont think he's perfect . Some on here do and thats their right. Its a message board for opinions. But I bet when we lose games or good players Cal doesnt sleep well, regardless of the amenities .
Well then the big question should be WHO THE HELL IS SCOUTING THESE GUYS? From a lack of talent, bad attitudes or the lack of will to want to compete and be a part of something special? And I'd say a big part of it is how Cal recruits these kids like spouting off NBA money, draft picks, etc. and probably not once mentioning the proud tradition of the program, getting a college education, etc. Our program is strictly run like a business; an NBA farm team and it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.
I think they all think they're better than they are.
Juzang was a star in high school. He probably thought he'd quickly earn major minutes and be a huge piece of the team.
Instead, he struggled. Which is fine. It's normal. He's not bad or awful for it. It just happened.
And instead of accepting that he has to be the best version of himself to make the NBA--he's running to a place with easier PT.
We've had some unbalanced rosters in recent years and I really believe it's because Cal sometimes goes after the most talented players regardless of position or fit. Just as long as they have athleticism. Then tries to make it work. It ends up working most years but we look like crap for a few month because it's a "process".
I think he would take a 6'8 bean pole that's ranked top 20 over a 7' center that's 240 but ranked 75th. Just because he wants to get those players to the NBA as quickly as possible to make the next millionaires. He doesn't want to spend time working with players for 3 or 4 years if he doesn't have to. Some years he is forced to though and is lucky to have them with a lot of our recruiting misses.
My opinion Cal recruits a few of these guys to be multi year players (people ***** because of the 1 & Done), but when they get here they think they are better than they really are. So when they end up not getting minutes (which multi year guys as freshman don't), instead of fighting and working to improve over multi years, they leave because they do not have the confidence they can get better to take someones minutes or earn more playing time. I mean kind of hard to recruit multi year guys when they do not want to stick around and get better, get a little experience under them. It is not Cal's fault these guys give up, he does not know that until AFTER they get here and realize "Oh ****, this is not high school anymore, I may not be as good as these guys."
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Grow up, awf. You just never let up calling your own fellow Cat brothers and sisters "trolls". Oh, and you should be banned for threatening violence. Especially in these trying times you threaten to shoot someone. That's just sad. If you want to continue sitting at the games while you knit and crochet, have at it. I for one will cheer while our Cats are curling, and picking and rolling
LOL at people thinking Juzang MAY be scared Allen will take his minutes. Based on what ? he played less then Juzang (none).
LOl at people thinking Juzang and Fletcher would compete for minutes. Nope.
Juzang was going to play behind Boston, Clarke and maybe even IQ if he comes back. he saw the writing on the wall, did not feel confident enough in his game to beat those guys out, figured he would come off the bench and play about the same as last year. And that is OK, kid was homesick wanting to get closer to home and play for a team he would get minutes. USC is the perfect place.
LOl at people thinking Juzang and Fletcher would compete for minutes. Nope.
Juzang was going to play behind Boston, Clarke and maybe even IQ if he comes back. he saw the writing on the wall, did not feel confident enough in his game to beat those guys out, figured he would come off the bench and play about the same as last year. And that is OK, kid was homesick wanting to get closer to home and play for a team he would get minutes. USC is the perfect place.
Hate to see a kid give up so easily. Seems to be an instant gratification society now more than ever. However, I think if Cal would tweak his style to play more up tempo both offensively and defensively and use his entire bench this wouldn’t happen as often. He’s the greatest recruiter in the games history, but doesn’t fully utilize that ability.
Total of transfers is 11 in 11 years for Cal at KY these include Darnell Dodson, Quade Green, Ryan Harrow, Sacha Killeya-Jones, Marcus Lee, Charles Matthews, Stacey Poole Jr., Kahlil Whitney, Kyle Wiltjer, Tai Wynyard and Johnny Juzang. None so far have done better without his and the coaching staffs guidance
I might disagree on that regarding Wiltjer and Matthews.
I like Kyle but he was always good on offense.He couldn't play a lick of D at UK and couldn't at the Zag's either.That was always his problem.
I don’t disagree with that. But I think he found an offensive system at Gonzaga that was a better fit.
What a difference a year makes. Kid went from benchwarmer at UK to UCLA’s leading scorer carrying them to the Final Four.
I'll take "Posts that haven't aged well" for $600, Alex.
Juzang is a good player, but not good enough to lead a team like UCLA to a Final Four. Besides we got Boston and Clarke coming in and Allen is ready too
It actually was lol. Juzang was not going to get top minutes and I think thats very clear.
Wrong post to bring up lmfao.
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********, I'm impressed with this. With the exception of the part where I undervalued Juzang a bit, the rest was spot on. I don't think it's a given he leaves after this year (making him a 3 year player), but he MAY be playing himself into what could be a 1st rounder this year.
Shewww.. all I missed was what EVERYONE missed here, that Juzang was more talented than we realize. And we probably shouldn't have played BJ for as long as we did, but I still see the reasons for doing it.
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I don’t think Juzang goes first round. It’s possible but not likely. Solid player. Good shooter. Lacking speed and quickness to compete in the NBA. College basketball skills don’t generally translate to the NBA without athleticism. It happens but not often. That said, he may be able to train and get the speed and quickness up.
A bit. You would have a guy that carried a team to a FF behind Clarke. The allies bombed Germany a bit.