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anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y

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dlh331 said:
So is Claire Bee
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Say what???
 
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KyFaninNC

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Mar 14, 2005
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KU gains a few games on us each year, because we lose games early to teams that we should be blowing out.
 
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UKWildcats#8

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KyFaninNC said:
KU gains a few games on us each year, because we lose games early to teams that we should be blowing out.
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Uk was +4 in 2018-2019.
UK was +1 in 2016-2017
UK was +11 in 2014-2015
UK was +4 in 2013-2014
UK was + 6 in 2011-2012
Uk was +2 in 2009-2010.

That is +28 in 6/11 years. Of course the other 5 years KU gained 30 so overall we are -2 the last 11 years if my math is right (probably wrong). The NIT year really killed us, but of course winning 38 games twice really helped us. KU is also good at not losing to inferior teams as you pointed out. If we had handled business this year we would have been around 28-3 as well (Evansville, Utah and SC come to mind, as does the choke job to TN but the FL game washed that IMO).
 
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MdWIldcat55

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UKWildcats#8 said:
Uk was +4 in 2018-2019.
UK was +1 in 2016-2017
UK was +11 in 2014-2015
UK was +4 in 2013-2014
UK was + 6 in 2011-2012
Uk was +2 in 2009-2010.

That is +28 in 6/11 years. Of course the other 5 years KU gained 30 so overall we are -2 the last 11 years if my math is right (probably wrong). The NIT year really killed us, but of course winning 38 games twice really helped us. KU is also good at not losing to inferior teams as you pointed out. If we had handled business this year we would have been around 28-3 as well (Evansville, Utah and SC come to mind, as does the choke job to TN but the FL game washed that IMO).
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Thanks for posting the inconvenient facts. Kentucky has gained ground six out of the eleven years Cal has been here, despite the well documented cheating of Kansas.

I like Kentucky's chances to gain ground next year, with or without the NCAA hammering Kansas.
 
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Chump Change X

Heisman
Dec 9, 2005
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VikingCat21 said:
Kansas is gonna be hurting starting next year when they get punished by the NCAA.
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We can keep telling ourselves that but I just don’t see it. I don’t see the NCAA hammering that many schools at once. I see Emmert saying that the NCAA failed in its policing and essentially pushing a “reset” button. No loss of banners or games. Perhaps a few scholarships, recruiting visits and TV for a year.
 
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docholiday51

Heisman
Oct 19, 2001
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Rockford said:
Well, Rupp did coach in an era where you would see this in a newspaper in the SEC.... "Head Basketball Coach promoted to Asst. FB Coach"

Rupp was well ahead of his time.... Few, not so much.

I will always look to Rupp as GOAT.

Wooden had too much "help"
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He was more into Hereford cattle:D
 
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Montana81

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Aug 12, 2004
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Yeah I’m not holding my breath on Kansas getting hit. 20, maybe even 10 years ago sure. But apparently an assistant getting caught on tape or even the head coach trying to buy players isn’t enough now days. Especially when the court rules the schools were the victim(this is ridiculous btw but here we are).
 
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littlecreek

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Rockford said:
Well, Rupp did coach in an era where you would see this in a newspaper in the SEC.... "Head Basketball Coach promoted to Asst. FB Coach"

Rupp was well ahead of his time.... Few, not so much.

I will always look to Rupp as GOAT.

Wooden had too much "help"
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Rupp won national championships. I don’t care what era it was he still had to beat good teams in the tournament.
 
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VikingCat21

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Chump Change X said:
We can keep telling ourselves that but I just don’t see it. I don’t see the NCAA hammering that many schools at once. I see Emmert saying that the NCAA failed in its policing and essentially pushing a “reset” button. No loss of banners or games. Perhaps a few scholarships, recruiting visits and TV for a year.
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KyFaninNC said:
Won't happen, BUT, if it does, I will gladly eat the crow.
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I don’t understand why y’all feel that way. The NCAA levied 5 level 1 violations against them, including lack of institutional control and a responsibility charge against Self. The NCAA even said that Adidas, Self, and Townsend “intentionally and willfully engaged in NCAA violations and blatantly disregarded the NCAA constitution and bylaws”. They are getting hammered.
 
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saxonburgcat

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VikingCat21 said:
I don’t understand why y’all feel that way. The NCAA levied 5 level 1 violations against them, including lack of institutional control and a responsibility charge against Self. The NCAA even said that Adidas, Self, and Townsend “intentionally and willfully engaged in NCAA violations and blatantly disregarded the NCAA constitution and bylaws”. They are getting hammered.
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The NCAA did pretty much the same with UNC and then let them go without even a slap on the wrist.
 
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Chump Change X

Heisman
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VikingCat21 said:
I don’t understand why y’all feel that way. The NCAA levied 5 level 1 violations against them, including lack of institutional control and a responsibility charge against Self. The NCAA even said that Adidas, Self, and Townsend “intentionally and willfully engaged in NCAA violations and blatantly disregarded the NCAA constitution and bylaws”. They are getting hammered.
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I just don't see them coming after major programs like KU, AU and U6. Could easily be wrong but this isn't even on the radar now.
 
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saxonburgcat

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VikingCat21 said:
Y’all have to let go of the UNC scandal. They got off on a technicality and that had to do with academics. KU is all about paying for recruits which the NCAA has always had strong rules about. They are getting hammered.
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First, academics is at the heart of the NCAA mission and purpose. To have massive academic fraud is worse than paying recruits.

Second, there was also the PJ Hairston scandal and the Dental Foundation scandal and neither was ever investigated but we do know that there was Wheels for Heels, illegal use of tutors based on fake learning disabilities, etc. (I can't even remember all the various ways UNC was cheating!)
 
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sluggercatfan

Heisman
Aug 17, 2004
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VikingCat21 said:
Y’all have to let go of the UNC scandal. They got off on a technicality and that had to do with academics. KU is all about paying for recruits which the NCAA has always had strong rules about. They are getting hammered.
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You let UK do 1/10th of what uncheat did and see if they'd skate. Kansas will not be punished along with pUKe, uncheaat and ND.
 
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VikingCat21

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Chump Change X said:
I just don't see them coming after major programs like KU, AU and U6. Could easily be wrong but this isn't even on the radar now.
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But they are already coming after KU. They sent a NOA that had 5 level 1 violations! If they weren’t coming after KU they either wouldn’t have sent a NOA at all or charged them with a bunch of minor violations that would could with a slap on the wrist. As it stands now, KU is looking at some pretty harsh sanctions. They will get hammered.
 
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VikingCat21

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saxonburgcat said:
First, academics is at the heart of the NCAA mission and purpose. To have massive academic fraud is worse than paying recruits.

Second, there was also the PJ Hairston scandal and the Dental Foundation scandal and neither was ever investigated but we do know that there was Wheels for Heels, illegal use of tutors based on fake learning disabilities, etc. (I can't even remember all the various ways UNC was cheating!)
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I agree the academic scandal was bad and they should have been punished for it, but it’s still not the same situation as the FBI investigation.
 
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