Why cancel the season?

[KentuckyCat420]

There is so much unknown still that I think postponement was the best scenario. If you cancel it down the road then fine but why cut off your nose to spite your face?

 

[*CatinIL*]

 

[oldsports_]

Look at the stats. Healthy people aren’t effected and if you’re a college athlete I’d say your safe as can be. Close the events to crowds...who’s then at risk?

"affected"

 

[WildmanWilson_rivals]

Canceling all this junk will do nothing to stop the spread. Absolutely nothing. People are still going to be out and about. Just like when they let schools out for the flu....go to Walmart or the ymca and kids are piled up like firewood.

Very few people will 100% be in isolation. People still come in constant contact. Regardless if it’s huge crowds or smaller gathering.

 

[ganner918_rivals60369]

If you have an underlying condition that weakens your immune system or you are elderly, you should probably stay home and avoid crowds. Leave everyone else to live their lives as they please and stop creating mass panic where it isn't warranted. The vast majority of people who have tested positive have had nothing more than a low grade fever and a runny nose. It's nothing more than a glorified cold virus.

The Swine Flu pandemic that happened a few years back when Obama was in office killed THOUSANDS of Americans. It was way more deadly than Covid-19. Yet people barely mentioned it, let alone creating mass panic and shutting down the entire country.

This coronavirus had already been spreading around the planet completely unchecked for several months before the Chinese admitted to it. Everyone on Earth is going to catch this virus at some point in their life. We are beyond the point of no return. If people think cancelling a few basketball tournaments will stop the spread of the virus, they are totally kidding themselves.

Let's compare this to swing flu. The CDC estimates 59 million people caught the flu over a year and a half. 265,000 people were hospitalized - less than half of 1 percent. 12,000 people died - That's 0.02% or 1 out of every 5000 people who caught it.

South Korea is testing EVERYBODY and so they don't have a bunch of unreported mild cases like most countries. The death rate there is close to 1 in 100 - 0.8%. I can't find numbers on their hospitalization rate but if you scale it down from other countries based on their lower death rate, you'd be looking at nearly 5% of all cases being in serious or critical condition - a good estimate of hospitalization rate.

If we do nothing to slow the spread of this and 60 million people catch it, then the above stats would work out to: 3 million people in the hospital and half a million people dead.

That's why we're working to contain this.

 

[Johnfarrel]

Let's compare this to swing flu. The CDC estimates 59 million people caught the flu over a year and a half. 265,000 people were hospitalized - less than half of 1 percent. 12,000 people died - That's 0.02% or 1 out of every 5000 people who caught it.

South Korea is testing EVERYBODY and so they don't have a bunch of unreported mild cases like most countries. The death rate there is close to 1 in 100 - 0.8%. I can't find numbers on their hospitalization rate but if you scale it down from other countries based on their lower death rate, you'd be looking at nearly 5% of all cases being in serious or critical condition - a good estimate of hospitalization rate.

If we do nothing to slow the spread of this and 60 million people catch it, then the above stats would work out to: 3 million people in the hospital and half a million people dead.

That's why we're working to contain this.

Your numbers don't look right. A half million dead is 1/6 of those hospitalized, or about 16%. that's over 16 times the South Korea death rate.

 

[RobJones1978]

Canceling all this junk will do nothing to stop the spread. Absolutely nothing. People are still going to be out and about. Just like when they let schools out for the flu....go to Walmart or the ymca and kids are piled up like firewood.

Very few people will 100% be in isolation. People still come in constant contact. Regardless if it’s huge crowds or smaller gathering.

Man I don’t mean to be condescending but that’s a very misguided take. You may be right that people are going to get this but the timing is as important as the number. If everyone gets sick at once it will overwhelm the health systems and the mortality rate goes way up. When people get this bad they need ventilators and constant medical care. The bottom line is there’s not enough to go around if everyone gets sick at once.

 

[WildmanWilson_rivals]

Man I don’t mean to be condescending but that’s a very misguided take. You may be right that people are going to get this but the timing is as important as the number. If everyone gets sick at once it will overwhelm the health systems and the mortality rate goes way up. When people get this bad they need ventilators and constant medical care. The bottom line is there’s not enough to go around if everyone gets sick at once.

But you may be lumping all cases together as having the same affect on people. By far, most will be like the flu. They will feel like garbage for 10-14 days then get better. A small percentage (very old and weak immune systems) will be in much more danger. Some will die the same as they would with the flu. This is a common thing that’s happens to humans. We are allowing it to consume us unnecessarily.

 

[mebeblue2]

how many of you are still going to the grocery store
how many are still going out to eat
how many are still going to the mall

after going to any public place how many come in contact with elderly people

what the NCAA did was to put a very small bandaid on a much bigger cut

 

[TigerMoving]

What was wrong with the no fans plan?

 

[kybassfan]

What was wrong with the no fans plan?

Duke pussed out, so Emmert took his toys and went home. No point in having the tournament if they couldn't win.

 

[Crawfords Corner]

What was wrong with the no fans plan?

I, imho, believe it was the Rudy Gobert situation. That changed the game plan.

 

[ganner918_rivals60369]

Your numbers don't look right. A half million dead is 1/6 of those hospitalized, or about 16%. that's over 16 times the South Korea death rate.

Their death rate is 0.8% of total cases. We had 59 million total cases of swine flu. If my numbers are off, it's on how many hospitalizations we'd have.

 

[TheWolf89]

There is so much unknown still that I think postponement was the best scenario. If you cancel it down the road then fine but why cut off your nose to spite your face?

they had to pat themselves on the back and circle jerk each other thinking they did something helpful

when you live in the fake world of Twitter that's what you get

 

[actionjaksen]

Duke pussed out, so Emmert took his toys and went home. No point in having the tournament if they couldn't win.

What do you mean? Did Duke do something?

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

What was wrong with the no fans plan?

This happened....
http://www.nba.com/article/2020/03/11/nba-suspends-season-virus-outbreak-ap

 

[kybassfan]

What do you mean? Did Duke do something?

This is a joke, right?

 

[Hoopnrun]

Who started this thread is a .....

 

[actionjaksen]

This is a joke, right?

No. What happened.

 

[kybassfan]

They quit the tournament before it was canceled. Wimps

 

[Louis_Skunt]

I almost like OP’s Tubby updates more than this.

I wonder if Tubby halted his recruiting trips for the virus.

 

[Louis_Skunt]

I'm willing to bet you are well under 70. If you over 80 like me you might have a different opinion. It is unlikely that a healthy young person will suffer greatly from the virus, but they can take it home to old folks like Grandma and Grandpa or a mom, dad, sister or brother who have an underlying health problem.

If i was 80, like you, i wouldn't be going to any games nor having your grandkids come over to bounce on your lap. Whether games continue or not, you should be on lockdown.

 

[HICATFAN]

This person should be banned....I have cancer, people like you put my life in jeopardy! I am only 45 years old and NOT A METH ADDICT

ray: For you coolioo... May His hand be upon you and I pray that He will intercede into your health needs...Amen.

AlohaCat

 

[LowCountryCat]

If you have an underlying condition that weakens your immune system or you are elderly, you should probably stay home and avoid crowds. Leave everyone else to live their lives as they please and stop creating mass panic where it isn't warranted. The vast majority of people who have tested positive have had nothing more than a low grade fever and a runny nose. It's nothing more than a glorified cold virus.

The Swine Flu pandemic that happened a few years back when Obama was in office killed THOUSANDS of Americans. It was way more deadly than Covid-19. Yet people barely mentioned it, let alone creating mass panic and shutting down the entire country.

This coronavirus had already been spreading around the planet completely unchecked for several months before the Chinese admitted to it. Everyone on Earth is going to catch this virus at some point in their life. We are beyond the point of no return. If people think cancelling a few basketball tournaments will stop the spread of the virus, they are totally kidding themselves.

 

[rmattox]

That’s why I said close the door to the crowds and play with empty seats.

THIS IS WHY:
If they play the games with just players and officials. If one of those kids gets the virus, their university, AD, coach etc....will all be sued. If one of those kids was to get sick and die, can you imagine the problems those people would be in for? KNOWINGLY exposing players to a potentially harmful situation??? Scheister lawyers would be licking their lips for guaranteed outcomes such as this.
THE reason schools and the ncaa (which is nothing more than the member schools) chose to shut it down: they didn't want legal exposure (among more other noble reasons)

 

[rmattox]

You think 18-20 yr old kids are sitting in their homes? These kids are out playing pick up games and going to the mall. Gimmie a break

Unfortunately, this is true. Kids not going to school will be going to daycare. The only good thing is the fact that kids generally no longer go outside and play. Most sit at home and fart around on their phones or playing video games.

 

[ktbug]

I know the value of education and expert advice is frowned on by many, but perhaps we should follow the advice of the experts and not some blogger or Facebook.
Wash your hands and don't take it home to granny.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

Canceling all this junk will do nothing to stop the spread. Absolutely nothing. People are still going to be out and about. Just like when they let schools out for the flu....go to Walmart or the ymca and kids are piled up like firewood.

Very few people will 100% be in isolation. People still come in constant contact. Regardless if it’s huge crowds or smaller gathering.

False, use your head dude.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

I wonder if Tubby halted his recruiting trips for the virus.

Yes, the virus was called lazyitus....

 

[chroix]

OP asks why while not realizing that people like him are the reason.

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

For the crowd on here that doesn't believe it unless it comes from Fox News.....This is why.

 

[JoeBeeHall]

I suggested postponing the tournament, and was laughed at.
It is the only alternative to cancelling.

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

I suggested postponing the tournament, and was laughed at.
It is the only alternative to cancelling.

That is really the only option but probably not feasible with the OAD NBA workouts, hotel shortages that time of year, booked arenas, tv contracts etc.

 

[Johnfarrel]

Their death rate is 0.8% of total cases. We had 59 million total cases of swine flu. If my numbers are off, it's on how many hospitalizations we'd have.

You are right. I caught my mistake last night. Thanks

 

[mr peein in your pants is the coolest]

But you may be lumping all cases together as having the same affect on people. By far, most will be like the flu. They will feel like garbage for 10-14 days then get better. A small percentage (very old and weak immune systems) will be in much more danger. Some will die the same as they would with the flu. This is a common thing that’s happens to humans. We are allowing it to consume us unnecessarily.

NO, no, no, no and no.

This is not the flu. The flu decimates your immune system quickly and you feel like garbage and self-quarantine. This does NOT decimate your immune system and you don't feel bad during an extended incubation period (3-14 days). This virus limits production of pulmonary surfactins that have many functions regarding your ability to breathe. You can spread this with ZERO symptoms for a long time. The rate of spread on the flu is only 1.2 (every person who gets it, spreads it to 1.2 people). .. This could have a rate of spread of 5X the flu. Also, fatality rate is unknown right now and will stay unknown until this is over. SARs started with a 2% fatality rate but after the dust settled it was 10%.. you can't have an accurate fatality rate with active cases.

Young healthy adults are low risk...but there is still risk. Current kill rate on ages 10-39 is .2 %... which as I explained above is inaccurate but will likely be higher .. Even if it stays at .2%.. if 1 million young adults get this, then 20,000 young adults just died.

 

[Louis_Skunt]

THIS IS WHY:
If they play the games with just players and officials. If one of those kids gets the virus, their university, AD, coach etc....will all be sued. If one of those kids was to get sick and die, can you imagine the problems those people would be in for? KNOWINGLY exposing players to a potentially harmful situation??? Scheister lawyers would be licking their lips for guaranteed outcomes such as this.
THE reason schools and the ncaa (which is nothing more than the member schools) chose to shut it down: they didn't want legal exposure (among more other noble reasons)

The amount of money brought in can pay for the lawsuit. Kids are playing pick up games instead of on TV...its not stopping anyone.

 

[rmattox]

The amount of money brought in can pay for the lawsuit. Kids are playing pick up games instead of on TV...its not stopping anyone.

ncaa tv money would not help you re: your personal liability. I've been sued. When I read the original notice, it really didn't trouble me all that much because I knew the business had tons of liability insurance. However, as I kept reading, it said I'd been sued not only professionally but personally. It's that last word that will get you...when you see your personal $, belongings, earnings, etc... on the line.
It would look like something like this: Those sued would be the school itself, the ncaa, then it would read president of ncaa, president of the university, ad, coaches, etc... those individuals in their professional and PERSONAL capacity.
Then imagine going to court. You'd probably not get a lot of sympathy once the kid's family's attorney paints the picture of you being interested in things other than the welfare of the kid, WHEN YOU KNEW OF THE RISK.

I'm not an attorney so someone else on this board may say I'm wrong. Just speaking from unfortunate, difficult experience.

 

[meteordealer]

Let's compare this to swing flu. The CDC estimates 59 million people caught the flu over a year and a half. 265,000 people were hospitalized - less than half of 1 percent. 12,000 people died - That's 0.02% or 1 out of every 5000 people who caught it.

South Korea is testing EVERYBODY and so they don't have a bunch of unreported mild cases like most countries. The death rate there is close to 1 in 100 - 0.8%. I can't find numbers on their hospitalization rate but if you scale it down from other countries based on their lower death rate, you'd be looking at nearly 5% of all cases being in serious or critical condition - a good estimate of hospitalization rate.

If we do nothing to slow the spread of this and 60 million people catch it, then the above stats would work out to: 3 million people in the hospital and half a million people dead.

That's why we're working to contain this.

The death rate with Coronavirus will be almost the same as the flu. Half of the country has probably had it already and didn't even know it.

 

[ganner918_rivals60369]

The death rate with Coronavirus will be almost the same as the flu. Half of the country has probably had it already and didn't even know it.

How certain of that are you, given that health experts across the world disagree with you? How many other people's lives are you willing to gamble on your being correct?

 

[meteordealer]

How certain of that are you, given that health experts across the world disagree with you? How many other people's lives are you willing to gamble on your being correct?

So everyone should just lock themselves in their houses from now on because they are afraid of getting a low grade fever and possibly a cough? There are risks in everything we do in our daily lives. You have a greater chance of being killed in a car wreck than dying from Coronavirus. The US currently has 41 deaths from Coronavirus out of millions of infected people.