Zagoria: Knicks want Jay Wright

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I always assumed he would be a lifer at nova. Not sure why he'd jump ship now to go to a garbage team like the knicks that seemingly have no interest in winning.
 
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BlueBomb

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Despite the dumpster fire of a team, kooky owner, unrealistic fan expectations, incessant media scrutiny and an unending source for message board fodder, it's still New York City. And the Big Apple is a draw for many.
 

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I've always thought Jay would be one of the guys that could transition well from college to the NBA.

I agree. His demeanor seems like it would transition well to the NBA. He also has two championships so there's a bit of a Billy Donovan situation here. I also think the style of basketball during his five-year run at Villanova, starting in '13/14, has been copied now by a lot of teams, giving him less of an advantage.
 
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GonzoCat90

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Nobody wants to coach the Knicks if they have other options. Wright is waiting on that Sixers job if he's smart.

The Knicks should make a pitch to Mark Jackson. He's solid at teaching young guys and he's a New Yorker that gets what the franchise means to them.
 

GonzoCat90

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Can someone tell me why anyone would want to leave the college game to coach the biggest egos in the world?

If Lebron, Chris Paul, Steph Curry....basically anyone that’s any good, if they wake up one morning and decide they don’t like you, you’re done.

It's the highest challenge in the profession, the money is usually better, and you don't have to recruit.

There are drawbacks for sure, like that you don't *get* to recruit your own players, the season is grueling, and the coaches who leave college for the pros are almost always guys who have a great thing going for them already.

But I understand the allure.
 

bthaunert

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Can someone tell me why anyone would want to leave the college game to coach the biggest egos in the world?

If Lebron, Chris Paul, Steph Curry....basically anyone that’s any good, if they wake up one morning and decide they don’t like you, you’re done.
Which would be worse...coaching the biggest ego's in the world or chasing high schools kids around trying to get them to come to your school?
 

HoldMyBeer

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Can someone tell me why anyone would want to leave the college game to coach the biggest egos in the world?

If Lebron, Chris Paul, Steph Curry....basically anyone that’s any good, if they wake up one morning and decide they don’t like you, you’re done.
1. Not having a job that requires you to beg 16-18yr old recruits to attend your school.

2. Money.

3. Opportunity to work at the highest level in your profession.

4. Not having to chase 17/18yr old kids around making sure they are going to class and not getting drunk. Not being held responsible for kids dumb behavior.

5. Not really having to coach.. "hey give the ball to Lebron".. "feed Shaq in the post", etc.

6. Knowing that even if you fail you can always return to NCAA and likely make even More money (ie Cal, Pitino, etc)
 

caneintally

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Can someone tell me why anyone would want to leave the college game to coach the biggest egos in the world?

If Lebron, Chris Paul, Steph Curry....basically anyone that’s any good, if they wake up one morning and decide they don’t like you, you’re done.
Honestly don't you want to be at the highest level possible in anything you do? The NBA is the highest level. Many guys want to prove they can coach at the highest level. But not all coaches are made for it.
 

Baller Cal

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I've always thought Jay would be one of the guys that could transition well from college to the NBA.

Agree. You can't be a guy that micromanages every second and he doesn't. He'll chill, collect a fat check and get similar results as Donovan, imo.
 

Jamal Mercer

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Honestly don't you want to be at the highest level possible in anything you do? The NBA is the highest level. Many guys want to prove they can coach at the highest level. But not all coaches are made for it.

I’ll take the security of the college job (if you’re any good) over being able to be fired on the whim of one of your egotistical stars.

But I get what you’re all saying.
 

so_obvious

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1. Not having a job that requires you to beg 16-18yr old recruits to attend your school.

2. Money.

3. Opportunity to work at the highest level in your profession.

4. Not having to chase 17/18yr old kids around making sure they are going to class and not getting drunk. Not being held responsible for kids dumb behavior.

5. Not really having to coach.. "hey give the ball to Lebron".. "feed Shaq in the post", etc.

6. Knowing that even if you fail you can always return to NCAA and likely make even More money (ie Cal, Pitino, etc)

Concering numero 5- they have nothing in the same stratosphere as a Lebron or Shaq and don’t see them getting one anytime soon. He will still have to somehow win games there and it won’t be by ‘rolling the ball out’ with the squad they have.
 
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LineSkiCat14

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Despite the dumpster fire of a team, kooky owner, unrealistic fan expectations, incessant media scrutiny and an unending source for message board fodder, it's still New York City. And the Big Apple is a draw for many.

And we can't overlook the Knicks future assets at their disposal. If you're an elite coach, you already have confidence.. so these guys will look at the draft picks and cap space amd think "I could be the guy to turn around the New York Knicks".

In this draft alone the Knicks look to have a top5 pick, late 1st rounder, and two early seconds.

In theory, knicks could get Wiseman, Dotson, and still punt those 2nd rounders.
 
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With 2 titles, he could have 10 losing seasons in a row and it wouldn't matter. He's got a job for life at Nova. OTOH, taking the Knicks job - or virtually any NBA job - means you're getting hired to get fired. He's likely out in 3 years, even if he proves to be a good pro head coach. It all comes down to whether the NBA is an itch he wants to scratch....

Agree, he's one of the few who might make it there from college. Any of the 'screamers' (Cal, Pitino, K - although K has such built in respect he might overcome it) are the ones for whom it won't work.....
 
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akaukswoosh

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I've always thought Jay would be one of the guys that could transition well from college to the NBA.
And as bad as the Knicks are he's from right next door in Philadelphia. He knows how to deal with the big city. Doubt he goes but may have reached the point where he's tired of the same ole thing.
 

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I’ll take the security of the college job (if you’re any good) over being able to be fired on the whim of one of your egotistical stars.

But I get what you’re all saying.

You mentality is fine with people who are complacent in life...Cal and other similar coaches have EGOs as well and they tend to be as huge as the NBA players.

Cal's dumpster fire with the NETS probably chews at the guy constantly.

But that's Cal, never been a complacent guy.
 

HoldMyBeer

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Concering numero 5- they have nothing in the same stratosphere as a Lebron or Shaq and don’t see them getting one anytime soon. He will still have to somehow win games there and it won’t be by ‘rolling the ball out’ with the squad they have.
Knicks are in a good place asset wise. Im certain the plan is to land some superstars soon. Teams can be turned around over night these days.
 

AlbanyWildCat

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If Jay Wright wanted to go to the Knicks, I am sure he can write himself a 10 year/$10Mper contract. The Knicks can write that check, Philly cannot. The Knicks HAVE to write that check and that is generational money.

The Knicks are having a huge issue and I am sure the NBA is very involved with fixing the issues with NY Knicks.

As a disgruntled Knicks fan, you need to back up the Brinks truck and get someone like Jay Wright if he is interested.
 

MakinMusic_rivals

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It will come down to wanting to challenge himself or remain at Villanova, maybe get a shot at another title before he retires. Villanova is different than Kentucky. There is an expectation but not at the Kentucky level of expectation. He could easily ride it out and not catch much flack from their fans.
 

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If Jay Wright wanted to go to the Knicks, I am sure he can write himself a 10 year/$10Mper contract. The Knicks can write that check, Philly cannot. The Knicks HAVE to write that check and that is generational money.

The Knicks are having a huge issue and I am sure the NBA is very involved with fixing the issues with NY Knicks.

As a disgruntled Knicks fan, you need to back up the Brinks truck and get someone like Jay Wright if he is interested.
10 million per? There's only 3 NBA coaches making 10 million salary currently with Popovich (arguably the greatest nba head coach ever) making 11 million per.

With no NBA head coaching experience I highly doubt Wright can "write himself a 10mm check" for the Knicks to pay. With that said he'd still get a helluva salary, and if he fails could easily return to the NCAA and schools (Indiana) would pay him more millions.
 
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FrankUnderwood

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Despite the dumpster fire of a team, kooky owner, unrealistic fan expectations, incessant media scrutiny and an unending source for message board fodder, it's still New York City. And the Big Apple is a draw for many.


You’d think so but they still can’t seem to land any elite players in free agency. Or elite coaches.
 

FrankUnderwood

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I agree. His demeanor seems like it would transition well to the NBA. He also has two championships so there's a bit of a Billy Donovan situation here. I also think the style of basketball during his five-year run at Villanova, starting in '13/14, has been copied now by a lot of teams, giving him less of an advantage.


Which teams have copied his style?
 

FrankUnderwood

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Knicks are in a good place asset wise. Im certain the plan is to land some superstars soon. Teams can be turned around over night these days.


All the Knicks fans were convinced they’d land some elite stars the last few years (never really did) and they were really convinced they’d land KD and Kyrie. They chose to play for the other NY team instead.
 

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10 million per? There's only 3 NBA coaches making 10 million salary currently with Popovich (arguably the greatest nba head coach ever) making 11 million per.

With no NBA head coaching experience I highly doubt Wright can "write himself a 10mm check" for the Knicks to pay. With that said he'd still get a helluva salary, and if he fails could easily return to the NCAA and schools (Indiana) would pay him more millions.

A couple of quick items...

1. The Knicks have to OVERPAY if they want to have any respectable coach coming into the organization and giving them any bit of credibility.

2. $100M for the Knicks is a drop in the bucket for an organization worth $4B.

3. The Knicks have to OVERPAY for stability. They cannot give another coach a 5 year contract if they want to stop the revolving door.

4. While Dolan is absolutely terrible, Perry and Mills were the main issues. One of them is gone now and patiently waiting for Perry to be given the boot. They were the clowns who approved the trading of Porzingis. He's recovered quite nicely with the Mavericks after learning how to play a spread offense.
 

so_obvious

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Knicks are in a good place asset wise. Im certain the plan is to land some superstars soon. Teams can be turned around over night these days.

Not when you are run by the train wreck that is the Dolanator. It’s not an asset problem (although I would argue they aren’t in great shape there either) but an image problem that is killing the Knicks. And as long as Dolan is there that will not change. No one wants to be a part of that nightmare when other teams are just as happy to throw the $$$$ at them.