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BourbonBalz

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Then why all the boo hoo when the bashing is countered? Positive and negative, right?
I’ll go slow so you can follow. There’s very little “bashing” that goes on. Your problem is if anyone states an opinion that isn’t roses and perfume, you accuse them of not being a real fan and hating Cal. You can’t stand any post that points out flaws in the team and staff, and then throw out your juvenile little name. If you just want to be a cheerleader, put on a skirt and grab your Pom Pons and just stay out of actual discussions. You make more excuses than a politician.
 

Bluedog1

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I don’t want Cal gone . But I am frustrated with the way he calls the game offensively.

This team should be running a whole lot more . A lot of these guys are dreadful in the half court


I have never liked his half court offenses, even when we were uber-talented. This team is just not uber talented. Not all number one classes are the same. AS frustrated as we are ,and we have some reason to be. I for one dont look forward to the post Cal days. Just be careful what you wish for generational coaches are hard to replace.
 
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kybassfan

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I’ll go slow so you can follow. There’s very little “bashing” that goes on. Your problem is if anyone states an opinion that isn’t roses and perfume, you accuse them of not being a real fan and hating Cal. You can’t stand any post that points out flaws in the team and staff, and then throw out your juvenile little name. If you just want to be a cheerleader, put on a skirt and grab your Pom Pons and just stay out of actual discussions. You make more excuses than a politician.

Stop crying. Poor baby. Someone is gonna slip in those crocodile tears.
 

BourbonBalz

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Stop crying. Poor baby. Someone is gonna slip in those crocodile tears.
OK Scooter. You do realize everyone except a handful on here are always laughing at you, right? You’re the one always crying and being a perpetual excuse machine. At least you’ve identified your purpose in life.
 

kybassfan

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OK Scooter. You do realize everyone except a handful on here are always laughing at you, right? You’re the one always crying and being a perpetual excuse machine. At least you’ve identified your purpose in life.

I think you’ve mistaken me for someone that cares Skippy.
 

Hopmix

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we Got screwed wihen refs allowed Fox to get mauled the entire game. That year was a title year. last season we had a great chance to win a title but ran into a red hot auburn team.
this is a down year for us. No where near time for fire cal talk. Bunch of sissies in here.
If we drop the next two and get thru sec we go into tourney as a 8-9 seed which isn’t a bad position for this team to make a run.
 
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I will I’ll try to find This thread after cal miraculously turns this team around AGAIN

It almost as if the annual miracle isn't that miraculous.

I have been on the ledge multiple times..but 8 years out of 10, Cal has brought me back. I'd say that is one hell of a job.

I have learned my lesson and will not judge a season until it is over.

"Frustrating? It's frustrating to lose but coming up, we know we can do and it's going to be a great story." -Aaron Harrison
 
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UK90

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No where near time for fire cal talk..

"Time to fire Cal talk" is futile regardless because UK CAN'T fire him after giving him that "lifetime" contract extension worth over 80 million dollars. Nobody's paying that buyout.

The only way Cal is leaving is if Cal chooses to leave. UK basically surrendered control over that when it gave him that crazy lucrative extension.
 
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UKWildcats#8

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Losses to Kansas State and Auburn have pretty much proven those posts correct. This program is a shell of what it was early in Cal’s tenure

Yeah, our team underachieved in the NCAA Tourney the past 2 seasons. We should have made it to the Final Four in both years minimum with the path laid out for us.

I'd say give Cal this year and see if he can have a good team next year (looks great, but will we have anyone back for experience?), but if we don't make a Final Four in 2020 or 2021 I'm ok with both sides deciding to move on. It's hard to stay somewhere 12-13 seasons, unless you are Saban or Dabo or Coach K or Roy Williams. It is hard to win multiple titles, especially in basketball.
 

BourbonBalz

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we Got screwed wihen refs allowed Fox to get mauled the entire game. That year was a title year. last season we had a great chance to win a title but ran into a red hot auburn team.
this is a down year for us. No where near time for fire cal talk. Bunch of sissies in here.
If we drop the next two and get thru sec we go into tourney as a 8-9 seed which isn’t a bad position for this team to make a run.
I’ve got news for you. 8or 9 seeds almost never make a run. There have been a few exceptions (us in 2014) but titles are almost always won by 1 or 2 seeds with a handful of others sprinkled in.
 

KyFaninNC

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I’ll go slow so you can follow. There’s very little “bashing” that goes on. Your problem is if anyone states an opinion that isn’t roses and perfume, you accuse them of not being a real fan and hating Cal. You can’t stand any post that points out flaws in the team and staff, and then throw out your juvenile little name. If you just want to be a cheerleader, put on a skirt and grab your Pom Pons and just stay out of actual discussions. You make more excuses than a politician.
Nice try, but he is beyond reason. Can not debate with him at all, trust me, I have tried. I actually think bassfan is happy when we lose, so he can come here to belittle, bash, and name call any posters that have any critique of Cal. It's like that is his sole purpose in life. He is a lost cause..
 

BourbonBalz

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"Time to fire Cal talk" is futile regardless of how we do because UK CAN'T fire him after giving him that "lifetime" contract extension reportedly worth over 80 million dollars overall. Nobody's paying that buyout.

The only way Cal is leaving is if Cal chooses to leave. UK basically surrendered control over the matter when it gave him that crazy lucrative extension.
Only a few nuts want Cal fired. Most of us just want him to make some much needed adjustments.
 

BourbonBalz

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Nice try, but he is beyond reason. Can not debate with him at all, trust me, I have tried. I actually think bassfan is happy when we lose, so he can come here to belittle, bash, and name call any posters that have any critique of Cal. It's like that is his sole purpose in life. He is a lost cause..
Oh I know. He’s a complete lost cause and really not worth the time and effort. He’s just such an easy target though.
 
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Elliott Tim

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There was a time in the Tubby era where the majority of fans knew we needed to move on. We appreciated his winning the title with Pitino’s players and all the success he had after that, but we collectively knew his days were numbered.

Am I alone in wondering if we’re not seeing the same thing with Cal? This team has absolutely no shot at being special. Next year there’s going to be a logjam, meaning more transfers and disgruntled players. It really is, and has been for the past three seasons, a hot mess.

We can all remember how, at Memphis, he assembled athletes, but not many basketball players. He’s gotten back to that, and it just doesn’t work in 2019.

We are witnessing the beginning of the end.

Blast away.
Lot's of dynamite shows up after a loss.
 

BourbonBalz

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Or we could just start running an actual offense and make some shots, Cal. Playing with energy and effort are extremely important but so is execution.
 
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gwjenning

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Brad Stevens?
I wish!

I believe many coaches can do as much if not more with the same talent Cal gets in here.

I don’t get why so many think he’s irreplaceable? The damn Utah coach out coached him with lesser talent and a younger team last night!
Kevin Ollie out coached Cal!
Rick Barnes has owned him at UT!

It would be exciting for someone to bring new life to our program! We are getting the same crap every year and are starting to come of short of the final four every year!
 
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Nicholascat

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Those of you wanting Cal gone are nuts. He's bringing in one of his best classes ever next year and we'll retain some from this team, we could be a super team next year. It was never a given this would be a great team and the thing is we still could be by March. There's no better options than cal available for the job.
 

jgraf1

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not to pick on your comment, you’re one of the most sane posters here, but I hate that “we were one play away from this and then we could have won that”. We didn’t. We got smacked around way too many times last year and it’s happening again. Almost every team can say what if. Enough of the what if’s
i agree with that 100%. i'm tired of the one play away years as well. 14, 15, 17, and 19 were 1 play away. that does need to change. the what if's are simply becoming excuses much like the "we're young" excuse. but saying that, i still don't think cal is trending down...not that you were arguing that point anway.
 

STL_Cat

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Those of you wanting Cal gone are nuts. He's bringing in one of his best classes ever next year and we'll retain some from this team, we could be a super team next year. It was never a given this would be a great team and the thing is we still could be by March. There's no better options than cal available for the job.

I by NO MEANS want Cal gone, but let’s stop crowning these recruiting classes as “best ever” until we actually see them play in college.
 

carbonlib23

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i think you guys are a little quick to be giving up on cal.....after K won back to backs in 92/93, it would have been foolhardy to try to run him off.....were there some down years? of course....and all fanbases get spoiled with upper level success.... but take a look at all the natty winners for the last 20 years.....it's hard to win a natty...sometimes **** just doesn't go your way...
 

Glenn Fohr

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I wish!

I believe many coaches can do as much if not more with the same talent Cal gets in here.

I don’t get why so many think he’s irreplaceable? The damn Utah coach out coached him with lesser talent and a younger team last night!
Kevin Ollie out coached Cal!
Rick Barnes has owned him at UT!

It would be exciting for someone to bring new life to our program! We are getting the same crap every year and are starting to come of short of the final four every year!

It's just time. Everything has an ending. Stevens would be a perfect fit here.
 
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darrellm1234

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Any time you lose a game it hurts and this team is under development. That being said, if trading coaches were possible, who would you trade Cal for? I can't think of a one that I would trade him for. The truth of the matter is there is enough great players to go around for a lot of teams and it is very, very hard to win the championship every year or two.
Coach Cal is giving Kentucky a good chance to win it all just about every year he has been here. He gives Kentucky just as good of a chance as any other coach gives their team. Look at Duke last year and all they didn't accomplish.
He has kept the program clean too. That itself means a lot.
Blast away---
 

Glenn Fohr

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Any time you lose a game it hurts and this team is under development. That being said, if trading coaches were possible, who would you trade Cal for? I can't think of a one that I would trade him for. The truth of the matter is there is enough great players to go around for a lot of teams and it is very, very hard to win the championship every year or two.
Coach Cal is giving Kentucky a good chance to win it all just about every year he has been here. He gives Kentucky just as good of a chance as any other coach gives their team. Look at Duke last year and all they didn't accomplish.
He has kept the program clean too. That itself means a lot.
Blast away---

No blasting, it's your opinion. Just ready for a new song and dance.
 

LadyCaytIL

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We were in the hunt even though not a great team. two or three points from e8 in the loss to kst.
If you think sweet 16 is "in the hunt" then Indiana has been back this entire time....... they've been in the hunt several times this past decade... who knew? wow ..
 

Nicholascat

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I by NO MEANS want Cal gone, but let’s stop crowning these recruiting classes as “best ever” until we actually see them play in college.
One of his best classes doesn't equate to "best ever". Btw Evan Daniels said the 19 class as a whole was the weakest he could remember, which is why I was always skeptical about freshman dominated teams this year. I know we have sophomores and juniors who contribute this year but we rely a lot on freshmen, next year's class is supposedly much better.
 
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Flipflopsandsocks

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You mean the same relentless bashing of our singular basketball program and coach we have to endure after each loss? That comes from the same cast of characters that want to sling mud at the program without rebuttal.
You're about to get your wish. Apathy is gonna set in and people will start not caring and no one will complain.
Remember before the season started they showed a picture of the team without shirts on and how ripped and athletic they all looked. I don't want too ever see that crap again. I want to see guys hitting jump shots and making 3s.
This guy think guys miss shots because they don't practice, not because of the god awful offense they're forced to play in. I don't ever want to hear we have the most knowledgeable fanbase again.
 

STL_Cat

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One of his best classes doesn't equate to "best ever".

then change my post from best ever to one of his best and my point stands. We don’t know until we see them play in an actual college game.

And I would argue that one of Cal’s best classes absolutely would equate to one of the best ever
 

deep3

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I’m not certain what change needs to be made!
But I am certain that something must change!

I’m not saying Cal needs to go. But something needs to happen!
To me it’s simple, he recruits athletes and needs to have more guys that can flat shoot it.
We are always athletic and rarely have multiple shooters on any given team.

Herro was very much an anomaly for Cal.
 

yoshukai

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We see a post like this every season that turns out to be completely asinine at the end of the year. Expect this to resurface in a few months.
It's not time for Cal to go but let's not act like we've been going to a final four every year either .
 
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UKCAT5FAN

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We can talk BS calls but a good team doesn’t need bs calls to determine a game. They r just better than the refs. As UK fans we KNOW the refs r against us. I assume the team would as well. We should never be in the position for the ref to determine the game. If we do, we lose. I’ll edit that to exclude when the refs blatantly cheat like Higgins....but even then...we KNO what we have to deal with. If Cal hasn’t told these kids how it is, then that’s on him. Just play hard and it’s not an issue. Not if they play as good as their ranking, which is y we recruited them.


I disagree. That's easy to say and you're exactly right if the NCAA tournament wasnt a OAD tournament. If it were a series tournament then I'd agree. But when it's not and these games are so close, it matters. Titles are too difficult to win as it it without having to overcome crucial calls not going our way constantly. It sounds good but it's not realistic. Many great teams win or lose because of favorable or incompetent officiating. I'm not claiming cheating as some do, I'm just saying inconsistencies and incompetence. Even great teams need a level playing field to win a OAD tournament. Saying it doesnt matter and we should have to overcome it is not fair in my opinion.
 
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