Saw this play he made on the Not Jerry Tipton twitter feed. I don’t know I’ve ever seen someone do this in an actually useful setting rather than in showboat fashion.
Jamal Murray self assist
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I’m pretty similar on an 8 ft rim.
Unless they changed the rules (or ignore them nba style) that's a turnover. You can't pass the ball to yourself.
Hitting the basket resets the play. You can hit the ball off the rim or backboard to yourself all day if you want, regardless of whether there is intent to shoot. Just like you can hit the ball off an opponent right back to yourself.
LeBron did this in the 17 finals vs Golden State. The best off the backboard pass I’ve seen in real time action was Ulis to Lee at South Carolina in 2016.
No it's not
Pretty sure John wall has used it in non-showboat fashion. Kobe did a lot
doesn’t count as a shot attempt or rebound either one. In the game notes it’ll just look like he drove the lane and dunked it.
When I was doing high school game not too long ago you could not do that. The backboard was considered as the floor and therefore a double dribble. Cannot pass to yourself. NBA has a whole different set of stupid rules. Take walking for example, or calling timeout at one end of the floor and getting the call at the other. NBA is a joke.
I just love how crazy that play looks when executed smoothly. That's having a feel for the game
I'm pretty sure if it hits the backboard then it's considered a missed shot under the rules. In the stats it gets scored as a missed shot, a rebound and put back, when really it's just a clever pass to yourself.
Kobe Bryant did that more times than any other player. Which means his shooting percentages were misleadingly lowered by scored "missed shots" that were actually clever passes.
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Yeah that’s what lowered his shooting percentage.
ulis was the best alley oop passer i remember at uk. he was like nba rondo doing those. the ones in the half court were always from far away and spot on. and the transition ones were always entertaining because he kept people off balance.
That’s odd, I mean, it’s ridiculous you’re still allowed to post here.
If it hits the rim/ backboard it's legal.
You couldn't catch it out of the air without it making contact with the goal or another player first though.
You couldn't catch it out of the air without it making contact with the goal or another player first though.
You can go to the game recap and read play by play. Murray had 3 dunks credited in that game, one was an assist from Jokic and 2 were unassisted. Neither of those had any citations for a missed shot, rebound, or assist. It (accurately in my opinion) is merely shown as a dunking play.
that is news to me. I’m sure Murray appreciates that! Why does it not count as a missed shot and a rebound? Not arguing, I just don’t know.
I guess it is looked at as no different than throwing the ball off another player, or hitting the ref with the ball. It resets the play in terms of your dribble, but it doesn't amount to a shot, rebound, assist, etc. So unless the scorekeeper interprets the initial throw off the backboard to be a shot (which could happen in certain instances), it is just the same as throwing the ball off someone else, which resets the dribble but is not a "stat" of any kind.
because it wasn’t a shot attempt. He clearly purposefully ricocheted it to himself.
Love these fun meaningless topics where there is no real vested rooting interest one way or the other.
So, I googled, "How does the NBA define what constitutes a shot attempt?" and got this response:
So did the ball leave the player's hands? Yes.
Did the ball travel towards the basket? There is where the room for interpretation exists.
So, I googled, "How does the NBA define what constitutes a shot attempt?" and got this response:
A player is considered to have shot the ball when the ball leaves the player's hands and travels towards the basket. It is not required that the ball touch any part of the basketball hoop, including the rim or backboard.
So did the ball leave the player's hands? Yes.
Did the ball travel towards the basket? There is where the room for interpretation exists.
I do not follow the stats close enough to check that out. I am used to the box scores that just show FGA and FGM but not stats that show specific attempts. However from what someone above said it appears there is some recap that gives a play by play or score by score description. Any chance you have a link to that? It sounds interesting.