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LineSkiCat14

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When people told me that the last 3 years Curry was a top5 player and was better than Harden:

 
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LineSkiCat14

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Steph Curry broken hand.. of course.. lol.

And we actually have a thread about how KAT is soft.
 

akaukswoosh

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Curry going into Coach K bad back mode?
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) Stephen Curry broke his left hand and became the latest injured Warriors player when he fell hard in the third quarter of another embarrassing defeat by Golden State, 121-110 to the Phoenix Suns on Wednesday night.
 

Catzman

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Steph Curry broken hand.. of course.. lol.

And we actually have a thread about how KAT is soft.

You mean he was told to fall and look injured to have an excuse to not be on the court for these beatdowns and further embarrass himself
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Harden is better imo, but he still hasn’t brought home a chip.

I think Steph is better and way more of a championship team guy than Harden will ever be. I’m glad to see the Warriors and all their bandwagon fans have to suffer but Curry is amazing. Green is the one who will be exposed for being severely over rated now that he doesn’t have the west all stars to hide him.

Both Curry and Harden suck at defense but Harden is laughably bad at defense. I’ve seen some real headscratchers regarding his defense lol. Both at amazing offensive threats though.

Kawhi, LeBron, Durant, A.D., Giannis are the top five IMO. The Mount Rushmore of greatest players the U.S. has with Curry/ Harden on that level but slightly below because of defensive liabilities.
 

nptb

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I think Steph is better and way more of a championship team guy than Harden will ever be. I’m glad to see the Warriors and all their bandwagon fans have to suffer but Curry is amazing. Green is the one who will be exposed for being severely over rated now that he doesn’t have the west all stars to hide him.

Both Curry and Harden suck at defense but Harden is laughably bad at defense. I’ve seen some real headscratchers regarding his defense lol. Both at amazing offensive threats though.

Kawhi, LeBron, Durant, A.D., Giannis are the top five IMO. The Mount Rushmore of greatest players the U.S. has with Curry/ Harden on that level but slightly below because of defensive liabilities.
That could literally be a starting 5 and everyone would have trouble scoring on that group.
 
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FrankUnderwood

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I think Steph is better and way more of a championship team guy than Harden will ever be. I’m glad to see the Warriors and all their bandwagon fans have to suffer but Curry is amazing. Green is the one who will be exposed for being severely over rated now that he doesn’t have the west all stars to hide him.

Both Curry and Harden suck at defense but Harden is laughably bad at defense. I’ve seen some real headscratchers regarding his defense lol. Both at amazing offensive threats though.

Kawhi, LeBron, Durant, A.D., Giannis are the top five IMO. The Mount Rushmore of greatest players the U.S. has with Curry/ Harden on that level but slightly below because of defensive liabilities.


That’s a really good list. As much as LeChina has disappointed me lately with his hypocrisy I still believe he’s 1a with Kawhi and AD right on his tail as 1b.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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That’s a really good list. As much as LeChina has disappointed me lately with his hypocrisy I still believe he’s 1a with Kawhi and AD right on his tail as 1b.

Same here his personal stuff gets on my nerves but I’ll always respect the player he is.
 

WildMoon

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Curry > Harden.

I mean, that Warrior team is trash. They have nobody besides Curry on offensive end. Also Draymond is probably one of the most overrated player.

It would be interesting once Klay and WCS is healthy. Also, i said this before, they should tank and this is now official.
 

LineSkiCat14

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Harden is better imo, but he still hasn’t brought home a chip.

I'll never use rings as a measure of how good one player is. That's a team stat. I

And we're learning just how true that is when Curry now has to carry his team like Harden has had to for years.
 

LineSkiCat14

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Curry > Harden.

I mean, that Warrior team is trash. They have nobody besides Curry on offensive end. Also Draymond is probably one of the most overrated player.

It would be interesting once Klay and WCS is healthy. Also, i said this before, they should tank and this is now official.

They still have DLO and they still have Green. ANd while those might not be the best offensive assets, you still have the GREATEST SHOOTER EVAA.

I'm sorry, if you're a top5 player, you make it work with Green, DLO and company. Maybe Steph needs to be a better defender? Not that easy to be an offensive weapon AND have to take on Klay's defensive duties, huh?

(This isn't aimed at you, Im just being snarky towards Curry. Can't stand him).
 

WildMoon

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They still have DLO and they still have Green. ANd while those might not be the best offensive assets, you still have the GREATEST SHOOTER EVAA.

I'm sorry, if you're a top5 player, you make it work with Green, DLO and company. Maybe Steph needs to be a better defender? Not that easy to be an offensive weapon AND have to take on Klay's defensive duties, huh?

(This isn't aimed at you, Im just being snarky towards Curry. Can't stand him).

its fine. I think most had him around 4/5 player anyways. When he was on fire he was top 2/3, and that one season he had anomaly that made him top player.

you are over emphasizing this 3-4 games this year.

To be honest, Harden has had some insane talents around him for past 3-4 seasons...

also...is houston good this year? i mean, they played 4 teams and 1 good team and lost? I would be careful on talking about playing with talent.
 

LineSkiCat14

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its fine. I think most had him around 4/5 player anyways. When he was on fire he was top 2/3, and that one season he had anomaly that made him top player.

you are over emphasizing this 3-4 games this year.

To be honest, Harden has had some insane talents around him for past 3-4 seasons...

also...is houston good this year? i mean, they played 4 teams and 1 good team and lost? I would be careful on talking about playing with talent.

Ultimately, yes.. I think Curry is the better PG to start a franchise with. I don't believe he is a better overall player though. Harden's defensive woes are more of a 2015 thing. Harden's steals were quite high last year, always roaming in top5 IIRC. There's nothing to say that Curry is in any way a better defender.

Insane talent? IDK. Capela is a system player. CP3 is/was on the downswing, often injured. Anderson? Austin Rivers? Eric Gordon? We had Lou Williams for one season. That's about it.

Durant, Klay, and you could argue Green, were all better than anything Harden had.
 

WildMoon

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Ultimately, yes.. I think Curry is the better PG to start a franchise with. I don't believe he is a better overall player though. Harden's defensive woes are more of a 2015 thing. Harden's steals were quite high last year, always roaming in top5 IIRC. There's nothing to say that Curry is in any way a better defender.

Insane talent? IDK. Capela is a system player. CP3 is/was on the downswing, often injured. Anderson? Austin Rivers? Eric Gordon? We had Lou Williams for one season. That's about it.

Durant, Klay, and you could argue Green, were all better than anything Harden had.

Oh without a doubt when they had Durant gsw is way more talented.

But keep in mind Curry did win without Durant and went to finals without Durant twice.

That team wasn't loaded with talent. I think green is overrated. Klay was still pretty young. I guess igoudala was legit but older.

One more thing. Houston lost to durant-less GSW.
 
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Shaudylo

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Harden definitely can carry a team that isn’t loaded better than Curry .
It’s a small sample size but getting blown out by Steph was shooting 24%. Due to this wrist injury is going to be tough for people to prove Harden is better but it definitely wasn’t looking good for Steph .
 

Mike-D

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Did you just go to YouTube and search “Lebron travel?”

that’s pretty bad but nobody is worse than Harden lol. His famed step back 3 is damn near a travel every time lol

Pretty sure that was edited. Funny, nonetheless.
 

LineSkiCat14

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Oh without a doubt when they had Durant gsw is way more talented.

But keep in mind Curry did win without Durant and went to finals without Durant twice.

That team wasn't loaded with talent. I think green is overrated. Klay was still pretty young. I guess igoudala was legit but older.

Had a superb bench.

Draymond might be similar to Capela, in that they are kind of system players. Put the pieces around them and have them do 1 or 2 things really well.

Klay was still an NBA-Allstar the year they won the title. He's pretty much been great since he started. All rookie team, always flirting with Defensive All-team awards..
 
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