Just an honest question (not trying to make anyone mad) to those that say Calipari can't coach. If Calipari and the Cats go on to win the national championship this season, does it alter your stance on "Cal can't coach"?
Your thoughts.....
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No..... basketball is a sport where talent can just win out.
But, so many have said we don't have talent and that we have a bunch of role players, not real UK level talent. Like to hear an actual answer to OP 's actual question. And, no, I'm not a Cal lover.
The inverse to this question is if he doesn’t ever win a second title, will his danglers stop seeing his present failures as a setup for future success?
Obviously the perception about him is subject to change and can bolstered by future success. But future success doesn’t ever UNDO failure that’s happened. He doesn’t undo WVU, UConn, Wisconsin, Evansville, 9-16, or St. Peter’s by winning another title.
Obviously the perception about him is subject to change and can bolstered by future success. But future success doesn’t ever UNDO failure that’s happened. He doesn’t undo WVU, UConn, Wisconsin, Evansville, 9-16, or St. Peter’s by winning another title.
College basketball limits supreme talent for a few reasons.
1. Floor spacing - non existent
2. Refs in love with the charge call
3. Only 5 fouls - keeps the best players off the court for long stretches.
4. Homecourt advantage
5. These are Kids not professionals
All that said if your team has overwhelming talent ala a 2012 UK team or 2015 you can get by with talent alone.
Other than that you need a perfect mix of kids and right timing to win a championship.
A lot of us think Cal caught lightening in a bottle... he's not going to win another championship... and most of us want to see an offensive set again before we die.
IMO if he wins another title it would be hard to deny his place among the great coaches in the game.
2 puts you in rare territory in this sport.
Whether people would acknowledge it here is another story lol
2 puts you in rare territory in this sport.
Whether people would acknowledge it here is another story lol
Not sure I follow what you said regarding your first comment to the OP. This post still doesn't answer his question though you make some good points.
then why didn't Duke win a few years ago with easily the most talent? Zion, Barrett and friends?
It would alter mine slightly, I mean 2 nattys isn't something many coaches have achieved. I'd still maintain he recruits well but in game coaching is terrible.
Yeah I think regardless that will be something that won't change.
If we are down 2 and need a bucket, I'm not relying on Cal to draw up a play that gets us an open look. I never thought he was good at that. But the man can recruit and so u hope he just recruited someone that could at the end of games take over and knock down a shot when we need one. Like Knight did in the tournament in 11, Harrison did in 14 etc.
I think Cal and Stoops are similar in that regard. Not that neither can coach but the in game stuff is questionable at best IMO.
Absolutely, but as he coaches now that won't happen.
I am posting as a UK fan with minimal knowledge in basketball strategy.
To answer your question;
If Cal does not change how he coaches and wins a championship, I will be completely shocked and realize again, I know less than I thought I knew currently as far as basketball strategy goes.
I do not think UK can win with the current coaching plan. If I was a betting man I'd give odds. Saying that it would be seriously near impossible for me to bet against UK.(Yeah who knows what goes on behind the scenes but the changes would be easily noticeable, even to my untrained capabilities where basketball is concerned on the floor. No question any changes would be noticeable, if not by me, some who post here and it would be highly broadcast here.) I have no issues saying, unless some serious coaching strategy changes happen, there is no way this team can win a championship.
If Cal does change the way he coaches noticeably and UK wins it all. I will be as happy as many on this site now would be. My question would also be.....
Why did it take so long to change, coach?
To answer your question;
If Cal does not change how he coaches and wins a championship, I will be completely shocked and realize again, I know less than I thought I knew currently as far as basketball strategy goes.
I do not think UK can win with the current coaching plan. If I was a betting man I'd give odds. Saying that it would be seriously near impossible for me to bet against UK.(Yeah who knows what goes on behind the scenes but the changes would be easily noticeable, even to my untrained capabilities where basketball is concerned on the floor. No question any changes would be noticeable, if not by me, some who post here and it would be highly broadcast here.) I have no issues saying, unless some serious coaching strategy changes happen, there is no way this team can win a championship.
If Cal does change the way he coaches noticeably and UK wins it all. I will be as happy as many on this site now would be. My question would also be.....
Why did it take so long to change, coach?
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Yes, I will gladly shut up and take any criticism coming my way as it will be deserved, but they aren’t winning a championship this year
He needs to park his ego and take some advice. He’s always talking about his coaching friends always calling him about his team, Utilize his assistants. Use some zone and zone press.
Blow the dust off his U Mass playbook and incorporate some of that structured offense which was so successful.
Blow the dust off his U Mass playbook and incorporate some of that structured offense which was so successful.
Well hell yes . It would prove to me that he is still capable of doing it. Despite the things I don’t like about Cal , the main reason I’m not a Cal fan is because I don’t think he has what it takes to win a championship or even go to a final four at this point in his life . Just like the last part of Tubbys tenure, I just don’t believe we can be a factor in the tournament as long as he is here .
We don’t have the type of talent to win it without a scheme to complement it. So yes, if he wins a championship, I’ll be the first to come back and say I was wrong. I bet my paycheck on the ‘96 team when I really couldn’t afford to do so. Had that much confidence in the team, scheme, and coach. In a much better spot financially than back then and wouldn’t risk $100 on Cal to win another.
that is a moot question Cal will never win another championship and may never make a final 4
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Would be awesome if he would coach like he did at UMass. Just a completely different coach back then. This version of Cal doesn’t cut it.
This. He can’t just out athlete/talent everyone anymore. Way too much parity.
This team with all the transfers feels like we're 2006 Tubby team. People already predicting us to finish 3rd behind Arkansas and Tennessee. We need to turn this narrative around and fast. We need to run Michigan out of the gym to start.
If aliens land in my front yard I'll try to get a picture
If I win the lottery I'll buy a small island
If UK wins the national championship I'll be very happy
But I will still want Cal gone.
My favorite thing is the numerous coaches and NBA scouts and NBA media who say how bad CALs offense is and how difficult it is for it to succeed now, and their are still people on here who actively defend cal
How much $$ would you be willing to bet me that a John Calipari coached Kentucky team never wins another national championship, this year or otherwise?
I’m looking around at CBB tonight and it’s pretty obvious after a few weeks who the best teams are. One of them is Tennessee. Another one unfortunately is Kansas, even though they lost tonight. Gonzaga is very average. So is Michigan State, and so are we.
Of course it would alter my stance, but look around dude. It ain’t gonna happen. These other teams play with a fire in their belly. We play like a bunch of scared clueless puppies who just pissed on the bedroom floor. Because our HC has devolved into a scared clueless wimp over the years.
Remember “refuse to lose”? Lol… nother lifetime ago.
Of course it would. If he doesn't win another title. His time at UK will be seen as a failure imo. Way too much talent to end it without another title.
My concern is that he will continue to stay and turn UK into IU
My concern is that he will continue to stay and turn UK into IU
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