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TU_BLA

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UCONNs women's team will set a new record for most consecutive wins by the time the NCAA tournament rolls around. They will be somewhere close to 110 straight at that point barring a Jesus rising from the dead type of miracle. And everyone thought this would be a down year for Geno losing 3 players the caliber they did after last season.

Ridiculous how good they are.
 

astonmartin708_rivals

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UCONNs women's team will set a new record for most consecutive wins by the time the NCAA tournament rolls around. They will be somewhere close to 110 straight at that point barring a Jesus rising from the dead type of miracle. And everyone thought this would be a down year for Geno losing 3 players the caliber they did after last season.

Ridiculous how good they are.
Bigger fish in a very small pond.
 

TU_BLA

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Bigger fish in a very small pond.
They are the biggest fish in the entire country. Their non-conference schedule is one of the most demanding in the country. They routinely play Notre Dame, Baylor, Kentucky, Maryland and a bunch of top 20 teams year in and year out and play a lot of those games on the road as well. They started as #3 or #4 this season and then pummeled #2 Baylor and they got bumped to #1 over Notre Dame who was #1 and hadn't lost. UCONN then pummeled Notre Dame in South Bend and last week jumped on #4 Maryland in College Park (MD was game though, kept it under 10 which is impressive). Katie Samuelsson has sparked UCONN this year. She played a lot last year and looked lost at times and this year is avg. 20ppg. Napheesa Collier is avg 19ppg. Samuelsson is hitting 46% of her 3s and 2 other players are over 40% with 2 more at 37 and 38%. This team is different than last year's in that it goes 7 deep (last year was a 6 person rotation with a 7th in some blowouts).
 

astonmartin708_rivals

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They are the biggest fish in the entire country. Their non-conference schedule is one of the most demanding in the country. They routinely play Notre Dame, Baylor, Kentucky, Maryland and a bunch of top 20 teams year in and year out and play a lot of those games on the road as well. They started as #3 or #4 this season and then pummeled #2 Baylor and they got bumped to #1 over Notre Dame who was #1 and hadn't lost. UCONN then pummeled Notre Dame in South Bend and last week jumped on #4 Maryland in College Park (MD was game though, kept it under 10 which is impressive). Katie Samuelsson has sparked UCONN this year. She played a lot last year and looked lost at times and this year is avg. 20ppg. Napheesa Collier is avg 19ppg. Samuelsson is hitting 46% of her 3s and 2 other players are over 40% with 2 more at 37 and 38%. This team is different than last year's in that it goes 7 deep (last year was a 6 person rotation with a 7th in some blowouts).
I'm saying that Women's basketball is a "small pond". UCONN accumulates the best talent, and since there's no realistic incentive for the girls to go pro early, the best girls stay in school for longer. It just so happens they're staying at UCONN.
 

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I'm saying that Women's basketball is a "small pond". UCONN accumulates the best talent, and since there's no realistic incentive for the girls to go pro early, the best girls stay in school for longer. It just so happens they're staying at UCONN.
Got ya. Interestingly enough, outside of the top 15, parity was increased in women's college basketball almost more than the men's game.
 

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Got ya. Interestingly enough, outside of the top 15, parity was increased in women's college basketball almost more than the men's game.

Women don't necessarily get full scholarships in basketball at all D1 schools, do they? I wonder if that has any impact in parity?
 

lawpoke87

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Women don't necessarily get full scholarships in basketball at all D1 schools, do they? I wonder if that has any impact in parity?

I would be shocked if they didn't. In fact, they get two more ships than the men.
 

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Women don't necessarily get full scholarships in basketball at all D1 schools, do they? I wonder if that has any impact in parity?
They do get full scholarships in women's basketball unless a particular school chooses not to award the full amount of scholarship money allowed by NCAA rules. I do know there are schools that only award 12 full scholarships vs the 14 allowed by the NCAA. Men get 12. The school still needs to maintain their Title IX compliance making sure they award at least the same amounts for men's and women's athletes. Basketball, women's volleyball, football, and a couple other sports are what are called equivalency sports meaning you typically have a full scholarship for every roster spot. However most schools carry walk-ons. Coaches could divide a scholarship or two up. Baseball, soccer, track & field and others have a set number of scholarships that they usually divide among about double the roster spots. Baseball has something like 9.5 scholarships and usually divide it among 25-30 players. I had one of the coaches I work with share what the NCAA allows per sport and what the university gave him to divide amongst his 25 soccer players. So, yes, not all universities use the entire amount allowed by NCAA rules but in D-1 basketball that would be rare.
 

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I'm saying that Women's basketball is a "small pond". UCONN accumulates the best talent, and since there's no realistic incentive for the girls to go pro early, the best girls stay in school for longer. It just so happens they're staying at UCONN.

Because everyone knows that what girls accomplish could never be as great as what men accomplish?

The rationale you provide explains why top teams are better than bottom teams but not why UCONN has been better than other top teams and doesn't detract at all from what they've accomplished.
 

lawpoke87

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I don't think it has anything to do with what women's basketball can accomplish. Women's basketball in all but a few schools isn't a revenue sport (like men's basketball) and fewer schools (by a large margin) put the same effort into winning. Thus, you have a much smaller pool of schools which can challenge for national titles. This by no means should take away from what UConn and Gino have accomplished. He is an elite basketball coach (men's or women's). However, to ignore the fact that he isn't competing against the same caliber of coach and funding found in the boys game is short-sighted.
 

Gmoney4WW

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Nowhere did I see it said or implied that what women accomplish is inferior to men. You are railing against a point that no one made.
 

seniorgolfer

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They do get full scholarships in women's basketball unless a particular school
chooses not to award the full amount of scholarship money allowed by NCAA
rules. I do know there are schools that only award 12 full scholarships vs the
14 allowed by the NCAA. Men get 12.

Golly! Where have I been? It's been 13 for men for some years now......
Etou, Igbanu, Atson, Taplin, Korita
Scott, Birt, Magnay, Henderson, Edogi
Battle, Wheeler, Artison
 
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chito_and_leon

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I don't think it has anything to do with what women's basketball can accomplish. Women's basketball in all but a few schools isn't a revenue sport (like men's basketball) and fewer schools (by a large margin) put the same effort into winning. Thus, you have a much smaller pool of schools which can challenge for national titles. This by no means should take away from what UConn and Gino have accomplished. He is an elite basketball coach (men's or women's). However, to ignore the fact that he isn't competing against the same caliber of coach and funding found in the boys game is short-sighted.

This would explain why it's easier to stay in the top 20 perhaps but not why one team would win 85 or whatever in a row while playing all the best teams. UCONN isn't the only team really trying in women's basketball
 
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TU_BLA

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UCONN just tied their own record by winning their 90th straight game BY 65 POINTS OVER THE #20 TEAM IN THE COUNTRY!
 

lawpoke87

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UConn certainly has the best talent whether it's developed or Gino is simply does a better job of evaluations. UConn had 7 first round draft choices over the last 7 years including the top 3 picks in last years draft. No other program comes close.