No easy games any night. Not sure many or any other conferences can say that. Curious how the committee will treat that? Could it go 9 deep?
Will conf lift or devour itself?
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unfortunately I think its going to have a negative effect for some...cannibalism at its worst
I agree
8-9 team max make the NCAA tourney
The B10 may not have a #1 or #2 seed this year. Mich St is the best chance for that.
The teams that can't beat the stronger conf teams on the road will not make the NCAAs.
Road wins will have to be a factor in separating B1G teams for NCAA consideration.The majority of league teams probably will have 10 or more losses largely based on the inability to win on the road.A 18-13 record might be the norm unless some teams fade down the stretch allowing other teams to reach 20 plus wins.
I think the B1G will be (at least) a 10 bid league. One cant look at this in a vacuum. How are you getting more than 4 or 5 ACC teams in? More than 5 Big 12 teams? More than 3 or 4 Pac 12 teams?
The committee still needs to fill 68 lines. B1G is getting (at least) 10 teams in this year. And I wouldn't be surprised at all with 11. Watch.
for the Big conferences to make it the teams need to be in the top 44-48overall rankings.
The small conference champs will take up the 13-16 seed slots.
In past years they at times would not take a team from a power conference's bottom half with a losing conference record and took an additional midmajor team instead.
Sometimes it comes down to an extra team with 22 wins fromt eh A10 or a 19 win team that would be the 9th / 10th selection from a power conference.
If you look at the Top 40 NET rankings today (which is a pretty safe cutoff I think):
11 Big 10
4 Big 12
4 Big East
4 Pac 12
4 ACC
4 SEC
That's 31. And six (6) of those bids are automatics. So, 25 at large bids. 32 automatic bids overall. That's still only 57 bids in a 68 team field (all the automatics and the whole Top 40 NET from the Big 6 leagues). B1G might get 12.
After league play you may find a 5th team from a couple of the other conferences getting bids.Just say it is a choice between Rutgers and Pitt for a 12th seed in the NCAA where Pitt is the 5th ACC team or Rutgers is the 11th or 12 B10 team. Pitt may have the advantage this year because of their win.
The same would hold true if RU and SHU are being considered for the last 4 in
A strong conference can work against RU if a lot of teams are between 11-9 and 9-11 in conference vs other conferences where the 5th and 6th teams have strong conference winning records.
Based upon our past history ( of not making the tournament ) Rutgers needs to win a minimum of 20 games before the post B1G tournament. There are plenty of skeptics and many conference teams with more media pull around the country. Suffice to say Rutgers needs the next 2 games at home to have a fighters chance.
totally agree but they are home games
we need a couple of key road wins. I would say 3 from the list below while winning a bunch at home
coming up
@ Iowa
@19 Mich
@ 12 MD
@ 11 Ohio St
@ Wisc
@ 20 PSU
@ Purdue
and need redemption at home vs Ill
Looking at our OOC schedule I don’t see more than 3 wins out the 7 away games ... We have 8 remaining HOME games can we win 5-6 of those? ... this can be the year but they need to stay healthy and need Baker back ASAP... overall the season has been a joy to watch...
A little of both, lift and devour. There is no way 12 get in, unless Nebraska and Northwestern finish 1-19 or 2-18 each. That won't happen. Right now, you have 12 in the top 41 but eventually a couple teams will finish 5-15, 6-14, 7-13 and have no chance of getting in. I think you will see more top conferences of 12 teams or more move to the 20 game schedules that can, minus Big 12 and Big East can only do 18, 10 team conferences. Big East can after UConn joins. I think they are seeing the benefits of playing each other more with B1G overall conference strength.
The NET rankings are a guide,
you are making the mistake of thinking that all these schools stay in the top 40, we are early in the process, we have 75% of league games around the country still to play. Also dont just assume if you are in the top 40 or 50 you are getting a bid. It doesnt work that way
Last year
33 NC State
35 Clemson
38 Texas who by the way had 5 Q1 wins and 5 Q2 wins and a sos of 4
41 Furman
46 Memphis
48 Nebraska
49 Lipscomb
50 Penn State
52 TCU
53 Creighton
54 Indiana
you are making the mistake of thinking that all these schools stay in the top 40, we are early in the process, we have 75% of league games around the country still to play. Also dont just assume if you are in the top 40 or 50 you are getting a bid. It doesnt work that way
Last year
33 NC State
35 Clemson
38 Texas who by the way had 5 Q1 wins and 5 Q2 wins and a sos of 4
41 Furman
46 Memphis
48 Nebraska
49 Lipscomb
50 Penn State
52 TCU
53 Creighton
54 Indiana
I can say that if RU doesnt win a road game the rest of the year and finishes 1-11 on the road but wins 7 of 8 home games to finish 10-10 to finish 18-12 they really have a red flag but also with the way things are shaking out in the Big 10 they might be lacking the Q1 wins, they could rac up alot of Q2 wins at the RAC but it would actually be better to win on the road to have these wins as Q1. Using current net rankings, Michigan and Maryland are the only remaining Q1 opportunities at the RAC and Michigan just barely, now things can change and maybe Purdue or Indiana or Illinois move into the top 30 when all is said and done
thats why i still think its way too early, so many games to be played and so many changes to come.
thats why i still think its way too early, so many games to be played and so many changes to come.
I agree it is way to early but I think at least from a NET perspective, the momentum is with the BIG. With 12 Q1 (road) teams in the conference, road losses are not going to hurt too much. It will take some home loses to drop significantly.
Of course there is more to it then the NET but that's a start.
Of course there is more to it then the NET but that's a start.
the conference is well positioned and that is a good thing to see. Contrast that to the ACC which is pure trash this year