Why is Morgan not in the game?

AFDawg

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I think they said after the game that she had been sick all week.
 

The Peeper

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Yep, she handles the ball well but has no business inside the paint which she repeatedly tries to do. Lost count of how many times she drives the lane and misses a layup
 

whosyourdawgy

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Y’all are all crazy as hell. When it gets crunch time, she has to be on the court. She doesn’t turn the ball over, is a great free throw shooter, and unless y’all forget, she’s clutch! Missed her shot late tonight but won’t do that often.
 

maroonmania

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Yep, she handles the ball well but has no business inside the paint which she repeatedly tries to do. Lost count of how many times she drives the lane and misses a layup

Her offensive game has totally gone out the window this year. Hard to believe that she's the same player that put up right at 40 points against Baylor last year.
 

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Her offensive game has totally gone out the window this year. Hard to believe that she's the same player that put up right at 40 points against Baylor last year.

That's an ignorant statement. If you're a knowledgeable fan you don't make that statement.
 

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I look at it like this "Vic knows what he's doing" not any of us so I'll leave it at that!
 

Hankp22

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A liability on the offensive end?

That is one of the craziest things I've read.

She has the best assist/turnover ratio in the SEC. We have two legit All-American options on the offensive end. And you also can add two high percentage shooters to that mix. It sounded like tonight was a very physical and defensive basketball game. We only had six turnovers. Her job is to be a leader and a point guard. She does it very well.

Threads like this differentiate those who know basketball and those who watch.
 

She Mate Me

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She has the best assist/turnover ratio in the SEC. We have two legit All-American options on the offensive end. And you also can add two high percentage shooters to that mix. It sounded like tonight was a very physical and defensive basketball game. We only had six turnovers. Her job is to be a leader and a point guard. She does it very well.

Threads like this differentiate those who know basketball and those who watch.

Yes, thanks for the sanity and game knowledge.
 

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2 pts 0-6 shooting 2 TO's 2 Assist in 32 mins and only forced 1 TO....edited to add she has made 2 shots in last 4 games...
 
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whosyourdawgy

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First time she went out of the game, Mizzou made 2 3 pointers bc Jazz didn’t guard her player and got caught in the lane. The other 3 was on Danberry when she did the same thing. Ok. So she didn’t have great numbers but the game flows much better when she’s out there. And her on ball defense is awesome. She has not looked for her shot nearly as much this season except for that one game when they just dared her to shoot and she killed em. But she is the stick that stirs our drink
 

whosyourdawgy

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I bet he doesn’t. We are 23-0 without her. We have 2 experienced Pg’s. Don’t need 3. Save her and have that talent for 4 years with significant minutes played instead of burning a year for 5-10 a game.
 

dogfan96

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Exactly.. she just doesn't look to shoot very much. Against LSU (I believe), she had 18 in the 1st half bc they were giving her the FT line jumper and she was making it pretty much every time. To say she's an offensive liability is absurd. She does go into some slumps but that will happen when you only average 5 FGA per game.
 

tcdog70

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Jazz is a super PG. Vic doesn't lose anything with her. Plus it gives William some rest and Her legs a break. Jazz would start on most college teams. I think maybe anything Vic does is OK with Me.
 

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Morgan played a phenomenal defensive game last night. I think it’s possible that she was totally gassed and simply needed a breather in the middle of the 4th.
 

maroonmania

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That's an ignorant statement. If you're a knowledgeable fan you don't make that statement.

I've watched multiple games this year and I've seen the same thing most every time. She is just not very good offensively right now at scoring the basketball and the stats bear that out (36% FG, 22% 3PT), by far the worst of any of our starters so there is nothing ignorant about what I said, its just a fact. 0-6 from the field last night and missed a wide open 15 footer that would have put the game away. But I've noticed you always run to defend her though if anything is mentioned on the subject. She helps in other ways but not much in being a scoring option at the moment.
 

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This is just completely wrong.
The team is different this year. Last year she was the 2nd scoring option and had to create when victoria was doubled.

this year she is suppose to find the open shooter... why her assist are through the roof and her shots are lower.
 

maroonmania

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This is just completely wrong.
The team is different this year. Last year she was the 2nd scoring option and had to create when victoria was doubled.

this year she is suppose to find the open shooter... why her assist are through the roof and her shots are lower.

Not sure if this is the William defenders group or what, but you are actually completely wrong. I understand she is taking less shots this year but her overall shooting percentage is down 10% points from last year and from 3 point range its down 14% points. She is just not making many shots even when she has the chance. Geez.
 
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This is just completely wrong.
The team is different this year. Last year she was the 2nd scoring option and had to create when victoria was doubled.

this year she is suppose to find the open shooter... why her assist are through the roof and her shots are lower.

Finally... out of the wilderness, the voice of reason speaks.
 
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Morgan played a phenomenal defensive game last night. I think it’s possible that she was totally gassed and simply needed a breather in the middle of the 4th.

Dude! Don't you know it's all about offense?

Just kidding. Yes, her defense last night was incredible. She put CONSTANT pressure on the ball last night and rarely gets credit for this.

No, she's not shooting the ball as well but she isn't shooting as much as she did last season. She doesn't have to. With Vivian and Big T averaging around 20 a game, she is not called on to contribute points like last season when Vivian struggled at times.

She has a different role this season and is doing it well without complaining. I promise you... if the situation arises that she is called upon to get some points to help us win, she will do it.

One last thing, it is refreshing to have so many contributions to discussions concerning the lady's team this year. There hasn't been the much talk about the girls on the Pack (at least that I can remember) and I'm glad no matter what the opinion is. They have earned some chatter for sure.
 

HueFreeze

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well that could be because by the time the ball gets back to her in most possessions he is having to force and create ...the only good shot she missed last night was the 1 at the free throw line ...she is probably shooting 85% from that spot throughout her career.

The dynamic of this team is different this year bri and dom were defenders Ro and Blair are offensive

So i am completely wrong Mo's job is not to run the offense efficiently and find the open shooter... What is her role?
 

maroonmania

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No, you are not wrong on that but what does that have to do with the price of eggs? I wasn't even talking about that part. She is obviously doing a good job of running the offense and playing defense and making FTs and that is why she is still starting. However, that has nothing to do with the fact that she is not hitting perimeter shots like she did last year, even when she is open. I don't even see how that's a debate. I mean if you want to say that those percentage drops are all due to her taking bad, guarded shots this year be my guest but that's not what I'm seeing. I have no confidence in her hitting a shot from the outside right now even if she's open. Amazes me how everyone on this board can analyze and criticize every aspect of every player on the men's team but if anything slightly negative is pointed out about any of our women players, even if it is a fact, then half the board feels the need to become defense attorneys.
 
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HueFreeze

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damn reading skills and ****

you said she is not an offensive player, because she is shooting 36 and 22
i said you were wrong because she can be an offensive player on any given night, but she is charged with running the offense
The reason her percentages are down is 1) she isn't shooting as much 2) when she does shoot, some times it is forced and late in the shot clock
we hardly ever run a play to get her an open look to knock it down ...very different than last year when she needed to be our 2nd scoring option and number 1 option when victoria was taking out of the game.
 

She Mate Me

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damn reading skills and ****

you said she is not an offensive player, because she is shooting 36 and 22
i said you were wrong because she can be an offensive player on any given night, but she is charged with running the offense
The reason her percentages are down is 1) she isn't shooting as much 2) when she does shoot, some times it is forced and late in the shot clock
we hardly ever run a play to get her an open look to knock it down ...very different than last year when she needed to be our 2nd scoring option and number 1 option when victoria was taking out of the game.

Excellent points. I would just leave it alone at this point. You've won the debate, but that won't be acknowledged by your adversary.

I'll just add that she's been the point guard for four years on a team that's won 112 games and counting. I think she might know what her role is better than some of us here.
 

maroonmania

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Excellent points. I would just leave it alone at this point. You've won the debate, but that won't be acknowledged by your adversary.

I'll just add that she's been the point guard for four years on a team that's won 112 games and counting. I think she might know what her role is better than some of us here.

Yea, great debate he has "won" even though every statistic supports exactly what I've watched in games. I said her offensive game had gone out the window in reference to her offensive scoring (READ the post as it referenced scoring total). She obviously still knows how to be a PG. BUT, according to the so called winning argument, shooting percentage is down because she shoots less (which has nothing to do with percentage) and the fact she is taking more bad shots forced at the end of the shot clock. Whatever, guess its good that William has 2 big time fans on the board regardless. On the flip side VV scoring efficiency has gone way up this year so kudos to her. Hopefully the former OM football coach will have no argument there.
 
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HueFreeze

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shooting percentage is down because she shoots less (which has nothing to do with percentage) and the fact she is taking more bad shots forced at the end of the shot clock. Whatever, guess its good that William has 2 big time fans on the board regardless. On the flip side VV scoring efficiency has gone way up this year so kudos to her.

...dude ...i need some asterisk
lets see if you can do this english
shooting harder shots and shooting less than last year ...you are going to have a lower percentage
think fg vs 3pt percentage


shooting easy shots and shooting less than last year ...you are going to have a higher percentage
think victoria vivians ...double teams last year ...driving to the basket this year
 

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I look at it like this "Vic knows what he's doing" not any of us so I'll leave it at that!

You clearly do not read the posts here. There are more than enough retired nba, nfl, mlb, ncaa, etc coaches on this board who all have more knowledge in their pinkies than any coach mstate has ever had.**
 
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