Why does Starkville hate Mississippi State?

[TXDawg.sixpack]

Lynn spruill is an arrogant bich.

She has done some good things for Starkville but she does some really dumb things too.

-Aj brown comments at natty celebration
-Talking down to people about COVID and gatherings while throwing parties at her house
-thinking it’s ok to have 3,000 people standing around businesses in the best part of Starkville and none of those people paying a dime into the economy

I loved the open container law at first but it needs to go. Too many unintended consequences.

Call me the R word if you want but statistically speaking you can’t have 3,000 people showing up without something bad happening. It’s a statistical fact.

Open container is not the problem. The problem is people with no tie to the university or town taking over the premier student hangout area and making it an unsafe environment for everyone, including themselves.

Could easily be solved, but apparently the city (or mayor) doesn’t have the courage to do what’s right.

 

[TXDawg.sixpack]

Yes and no. People had been begging for a legit nightlife area for decades. It finally happened. That kind of stuff comes along with that sort of thing in most cases now, for better or worse. You can't really have your cake and eat it too. A thing like that in a college town was never going to be people quietly eating and drinking and then getting an Uber home at closing time. It damn sure wasn't going to ever be a family friendly destination at night. A LOT of places struggle with this. Getting the right balance isn't simple. If it was nobody would struggle with it.

A town around here went wet several years ago. Before the downtown was a ghostown, especially at night. Now it's a legit place at night on the weekends. Would I go there after 8pm on the weekend? Nope, not my kind of thing.

What I saw Saturday night outside of Bin 612 is not normal and does not “just come along with” a legit nightlife area.

My daughter is a Sophomore at State. She and her friends won‘t go near the District on a big athletic weekend. For the record, she grew up in Houston and had no issues going to downtown Houston or The Heights or anywhere, really with her friends in high school.

 

[TXDawg.sixpack]

It is definitely an interesting phenomena. Everyone knows the situation, even glfr. I find it funny that folks lash out at Spruill, when it's far from her fault and like others have said, happening everywhere. Sort of like the catch-all 'blame the government'.

That said, I do wish these younger boomers would quit trying to solve this problem 'rationally' and quit talking about education or whatever. The only to get rid of folks is to run them off.

And whose job is that? The police (government).

 

[paindonthurt]

Open container is not the problem. The problem is people with no tie to the university or town taking over the premier student hangout area and making it an unsafe environment for everyone, including themselves.

Open container lead to that and I don’t really want open container to go away, but it 100% created an unintended consequence.

Could easily be solved, but apparently the city (or mayor) doesn’t have the courage to do what’s right.

Agreed but I’ve heard a couple of good ideas that supposedly came from meetings this week.

ID check points to get in district.
Specific cups from vendors that you’d have to purchase inside.
Possible cover and that cover may be used as credit to a bar.

Lot of students would be ok paying a cover to feel safe too.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

@paindonthurt you got what you wanted

#lynnlistens

 

[paindonthurt]

@paindonthurt you got what you wanted

#lynnlistens

What did she do?

 

[Maroon13]

The shooting did occur down Maxwell near Hobies. However, the problem is with large gatherings of people, whose intent is to flood an area and no intentions of patronizing any business. The bad actors follow.

This isn't just a Starkville thing either. It's all the big university towns are dealing with us.

 

[paindonthurt]

The shooting did occur down Maxwell near Hobies. However, the problem is with large gatherings of people, whose intent is to flood an area and no intentions of patronizing any business. The bad actors follow.

This isn't just a Starkville thing either. It's all the big university towns are dealing with us.

Not all of them but a lot of them. Some of them actually use basic policing tactics that work.

 

[Anon1774962825]

Then why are people beating a dead horse about open containers and cover charges? None of those things have anything to do with loitering.

Enforce the laws on the books the best you can, with the manpower you have. If you can’t do what’s necessary on high tourism weekends to cover all your bases (which is 99% guaranteed to be an issue with SPD), then hire more cops and carry a bloated police force year round. Raise taxes across the board on Starkville citizens and students to pay for it. Or scrap that whole idea entirely, and just accept more risk on those weekends, if its not a hill that the citizens and their elected officials are willing to die on.

Its a zero sum game at the end of the day.

The open container law allows people to loiter in the street with their own alcohol that they bought at the liquor store / gas station for extremely cheap and not have to go buy the liquor that is 3 times the cost in the cotton district bars. That invites hood rats that you are seeing in the district every weekend and runs off the people that aren’t broke because they don’t want to be around them. I think there are other ways to deal with it than to do away with open container. Maybe specific to-go cups from the bars are the only ones allowed on the street.

 

[johnson86-1]

The open container law allows people to loiter in the street with their own alcohol that they bought at the liquor store / gas station for extremely cheap and not have to go buy the liquor that is 3 times the cost in the cotton district bars. That invites hood rats that you are seeing in the district every weekend and runs off the people that aren’t broke because they don’t want to be around them. I think there are other ways to deal with it than to do away with open container. Maybe specific to-go cups from the bars are the only ones allowed on the street.

That will help but I would guess will result in one purchase and then refilling it on the street. Or no purchases and just sticking to pot, although that will help identify the people loitering and spending $0. I think they're going to have to do more to make the hood rats stop coming than if they had been on top of the situation from the get go.