Why do people think Woodard ....

ToxicTimberDawg

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...is a big man? Because we go small a lot and play him at the 4? He’s 6’7 and the official roster lists him as a guard. To me, makes his ability to defend bigs all the more impressive. But, Multiple boards contain posts gushing about his agility and athleticism for “a big guy” or “a post player” or “someone his size”. I just wondered if anyone realizes he’s actually a natural 2/3 and he’s 6’7 so yea he should be pretty agile.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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i've seen more people posting about him playing bigger than his size. he plays bigger than Ado and Holman. That doesn't take much. Holman is wasted space because he tries to play like he is 6 1. might as well play smaller and get after it. Woodard gives you more at the 4 than Holman does.
 
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He’s a taller Jamont Gordon. He has the ability of a guard but is physical enough to bang with frontcourt players. His blocked shots at rim are proof enough.
 
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I don’t care if we play him as a guard or a forward, but he needs to play.

It’s a travesty that Ado and Holman get more minutes than him.
 

paindonthurt_

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6’7” isn’t exactly small. He is very athletic for a 6’7” guy.
If he continues to develop a shot and gets better, he’ll make some change.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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That’s a pretty good comparison. I don’t think he will be bringing the ball down the court as much which is good. Jamont played a lot like Peters at times. Jamont was more consistent consistent though. It’s hard to to find an exact comparison for him. His size and athleticism is something we haven’t seen. He looks like a defensive end or tight end playing basketball. Just really strong and got some bounce. He defenitely has nba 2-3 all over him with his ability to go from front to back court easily. He has a nice dribble and shot. He can also take it to the rim strong. His defense on this team is unmatched and the best we’ve seen in a while.
 

ColoradoDawg

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He is a very solid 3. Lots of physicality and he is a good defender. We are a different team when he and Perry are on the floor.
 

Grove Sh*tter

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I think Michael gholar is a better comparison. Jamont had ball skills and shooting skills to add to his 6'4" 240 lb "get out of my way while I plow asses to the rim" frame.

Gholar was longer and could jump out of the gym. That frame and athleticism with woodard's moxie is dangerous.
 

philduckworth

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Positions aren't that much of thing anymore. It's not 1998. Villanova won the national title starting 3 guards and 2 forwards. They basically played 4 guards and one big man a majority of the time.

Woodard is a 3/4.
 

Seinfeld

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Probably because he and Perry are doing things down low that we haven’t seen from an MSU post player aside from Ware in nearly a decade.

And I don’t mean that to sound snarky. It’s just a fact that up to this point, Howland has recruited a lot of post players that don’t particularly like to play the post, so when you see a kid like Woodard going all out and even blocking shots, it makes him seem a lot bigger than he actually is
 

Drebin

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He plays bigger than he is and is physical enough to defend the post. In this pussified era of the finesse stretch four, he can be dominant on both ends of the floor.

I love the kid and think he should be getting more of Holman’s minutes.
 

tcdog70

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Sep 24, 2012
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he is 6'7" with very long arms and a grown man's body who has Basketball IQ. Plus basketball skills. he can guard bigger players but bigger players can't guard Him. Wonder why he was Miss. player of they year 2 years in a row?
 

She Mate Me

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For some of you older guys, he reminds me of Clarence Weatherspoon. Just a man who knows how to play the game and plays hard all the time.
 

Drebin

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For some of you older guys, he reminds me of Clarence Weatherspoon. Just a man who knows how to play the game and plays hard all the time.

Yeah, Spoon was a different kind of player. He didn't really shoot the ball well from the perimeter. He played mostly at the three/four in the league, and he was a classic tweener, like Barkley was. Also like Barkley, he worked his *** off and probably played three or four inches taller than he was, and he just muscled guys off the glass.

Woodard is a lot more skilled with the ball than Spoon was, so Woodard will be a lot more capable to play the three and guard out there.
 

Crazy Cotton

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That's a great comparison. Weatherspoon wasn't fraid of nobody. He had a pretty decent NBA career considering he wasn't a freak athlete.
 
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6’7” isn’t exactly small. He is very athletic for a 6’7” guy.
If he continues to develop a shot and gets better, he’ll make some change.

Yep. I like to use Charles Barkley as an example. 6'6" and could bang with anyone under the goal, yet still drop outside and hit a perimeter shot or run the court on a fast break.

The Round Mound of Rebound.

 

She Mate Me

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Yeah, Spoon was a different kind of player. He didn't really shoot the ball well from the perimeter. He played mostly at the three/four in the league, and he was a classic tweener, like Barkley was. Also like Barkley, he worked his *** off and probably played three or four inches taller than he was, and he just muscled guys off the glass.

Woodard is a lot more skilled with the ball than Spoon was, so Woodard will be a lot more capable to play the three and guard out there.

Agree. Woodard definitely has more guard like skills and a better (but probably not stronger) physique. Just something about the way they both move around the basket is similar.
 

olblue.sixpack

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Positions aren't that much of thing anymore. It's not 1998. Villanova won the national title starting 3 guards and 2 forwards. They basically played 4 guards and one big man a majority of the time.

Woodard is a 3/4.

There are a lot of people that are having a hard time wrapping their minds around the concept of positionless basketball.
 

tcdog70

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Sep 24, 2012
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Spoon was just 6'4"--Woodard is more talented--but the Spoon just outworked people.
 
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