where did we go wrong?

aTUfan_rivals

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Houston is playing for the baskekball championship, and SMU made the football playoff.
We used to be on a par with SMU and Houston. now we are cellar dwellers.

What happened?
 
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Gmoney4WW

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The main thing is money. Money makes the world go round. Even SMU has a larger student base than us. And both schools had access to a wealthier list of donors than we did. Ones that were willing to pay it out.
 

TUcandoit

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The main thing is money. Money makes the world go round. Even SMU has a larger student base than us. And both schools had access to a wealthier list of donors than we did. Ones that were willing to pay it out.
Wealthier is questionable. More? yes. We have some of the wealthiest alumns period (QT CEO, Walmart CEO, Dr. Phil, Hani Abdulaziz Al Hussein (Kuwaiti Petroleum Company CEO), and Ermirio Pereira de Moraes (Brazilian billionaire businessman). ) but they don't want to give to us for whatever reason.
 
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Gmoney4WW

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Wealthier is questionable. More? yes. We have some of the wealthiest alumns period (QT CEO, Walmart CEO, Dr. Phil, Hani Abdulaziz Al Hussein (Kuwaiti Petroleum Company CEO), and Ermirio Pereira de Moraes (Brazilian billionaire businessman). ) but they don't want to give to us for whatever reason.
Overall they are wealthier. You just name our top 5, and they compare favorably. But they all do not donate. If you our top 50 donors to their top 50 donors, thats where we pale. And most of the wealth over there donate to the athletics like crazy.
 

TU 1978

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One of the main reasons is the dreadful hiring of Gragg as the AD. That set us back a decade.
 
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Wealthier is questionable. More? yes. We have some of the wealthiest alumns period (QT CEO, Walmart CEO, Dr. Phil, Hani Abdulaziz Al Hussein (Kuwaiti Petroleum Company CEO), and Ermirio Pereira de Moraes (Brazilian billionaire businessman). ) but they don't want to give to us for whatever reason.
Its apparent...they moved on
 

Lumpuckeroo

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One of the main reasons is the dreadful hiring of Gragg as the AD. That set us back a decade.
Gragg was here just for the paycheck...nothing else . He didn't give a flip about Tulsa ,
just another flippant non-productive lamea$$ TU hire like so many we have seen before .
TU is small potatoes and they want to keep it that way , maybe some day we can go back
to being called Kendall College .
 
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Loca5174

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our Football Stadium and and Basketball arena are too small for Big Time games
That has nothing to do with anything. We haven’t scheduled huge opponents in a while but when OSU or OU are in town it sells out. Pretty sure the A &M and Miami games were sold out. We need to schedule these games and since we can only schedule 4 OOC games while the larger conferences can only schedule 3 with one being an FCS beat down day, then we are limited to who we can schedule. OU and osu are cheap to go to and have many upsides.
 

Loca5174

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Overall they are wealthier. You just name our top 5, and they compare favorably. But they all do not donate. If you our top 50 donors to their top 50 donors, thats where we pale. And most of the wealth over there donate to the athletics like crazy.
SMU went to the ACC knowing they wouldn’t be getting the shared funds for 7 years and the donors were willing to foot the bill for everything. Houston got the nod because of the basketball team and not the football team let’s be very transparent about that. They have big money in Texas that are willing to spend it and we don’t here.

Going back on my soap box again but NIL changed everything. Now that they can pay for players they do. The get on TV talking about how these business owners will pay players to come to their school. This NIL hurts the smaller conferences but really hurts the small schools such as Tulsa.
 

Babe the Blue Ox_rivals

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That has nothing to do with anything. We haven’t scheduled huge opponents in a while but when OSU or OU are in town it sells out. Pretty sure the A &M and Miami games were sold out. We need to schedule these games and since we can only schedule 4 OOC games while the larger conferences can only schedule 3 with one being an FCS beat down day, then we are limited to who we can schedule. OU and osu are cheap to go to and have many upsides.
OSU was the only sellout that year. 30k for A&M then 35k for Miami the following week.
 
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