What possibilities in recruiting for 2016

SkilletHead2

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Now that we have the coaching team in place (and what a great job!), what do we see as possible pick ups in terms of guys who can play this coming season?
 

Knights 1212

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I am a bit concerned. It is as everyone realizes late in the game for 2016 recruits. I really hope we can hold onto Thiam as that seems important to get a guy with length who can extend the defense. Hopefully Sanders returns and he, Johnson and Williams can man the guard positions and stay healthy. Bullock might be able to contribute a little at guard and small forward. Doorson and Diallo need to be healthy all season but a guy like Sa can really help us at PF and blocking shots as he was second in the nation for blocks by JUCO players. Hopefully he realizes that there is a good chance for major minutes with us and chooses RU. I think our staff as good as they are can possibly find another 4 year guy at this late stage of recruiting that can contribute for next season. I also hope we can get at least one 5th year graduate student who can help us next season. I do not want to see another 7 win season. We need to raise the bar on wins and show a much more competitive team in all games next season. I know I have not added much new here but like most of us I have faith in the coaching staff. I think we really need a 5th year guy who can contribute as a scorer at the SF position as we only have Laurent there and possibly Bullock for a few minutes a game.
 

Knights 1212

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True. We just need to get him to sign on the dotted line. That just might solve a major problem. We could possibly than go after a 5th year grad student at almost any position.
 

eja92

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I would be very surprised if Thiam is better than Laurent. Very.
I agree with this - I think Laurent will be a direct beneficiary of the improved coaching staff and better back court play. I think he has a lot of upside for this team and the work ethic to realize significant improvement this coming year.
 

LouDawgRU03

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Looks like the spring signing period started last week. Obviously Thiam hasn't signed yet. By keeping Shoes, do we expect him to sign here, or will he go elsewhere?
 

RU-Choppin-Ohio

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Like many have already stated Thiam brings a different aspect to the game. While there is very little video on the kid, I've been told he has a good shoot along with deadly 3pt shot.

YES.....They may form a great tandem splitting time at SF, Laurent is good working in the paint and around the basket. Thiam may be the outside shooter. Nice combination.
 
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ho26rus

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I am a bit concerned. It is as everyone realizes late in the game for 2016 recruits. I really hope we can hold onto Thiam as that seems important to get a guy with length who can extend the defense. Hopefully Sanders returns and he, Johnson and Williams can man the guard positions and stay healthy. Bullock might be able to contribute a little at guard and small forward. Doorson and Diallo need to be healthy all season but a guy like Sa can really help us at PF and blocking shots as he was second in the nation for blocks by JUCO players. Hopefully he realizes that there is a good chance for major minutes with us and chooses RU. I think our staff as good as they are can possibly find another 4 year guy at this late stage of recruiting that can contribute for next season. I also hope we can get at least one 5th year graduate student who can help us next season. I do not want to see another 7 win season. We need to raise the bar on wins and show a much more competitive team in all games next season. I know I have not added much new here but like most of us I have faith in the coaching staff. I think we really need a 5th year guy who can contribute as a scorer at the SF position as we only have Laurent there and possibly Bullock for a few minutes a game.


I would not be so quick to add you added nothing new
That was a good post
 

Scarlet Knut

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I agree with this - I think Laurent will be a direct beneficiary of the improved coaching staff and better back court play. I think he has a lot of upside for this team and the work ethic to realize significant improvement this coming year.
I agree. Love Laurent's game.
 
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shields

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Laurent had a game of 19 points and 15 rebounds vs Penn State and earlier in year 13 and 15 rebounds again I believe. Kid can play.
 

RutgHoops

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Laurent was certainly force fed big minutes due to our lack of depth but 46.5 FG%/9.5ppg/5rpg in B1G games is very good for a freshman. very good.
 
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RUMBA-JK

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Recognizing that there are some already identified (and verbally committed) highly desired prospects in the class of 2016 ... and - maybe a possibility one or two that has yet to be publicized
- AND considering that .....
NCAA SIGNING PERIOD for HS class of 2016 - Basketball (Regular Period)
START: April 13, 2016 ... END: May 18, 2016 (Division I)

What is the anticipated time frame for seeing National Letters of Intent being signed?
 

RUinFla

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OK, more internet fretting, like what we all did about publicizing the roster of assistants. We really do not know who the staff is looking at--we only know that in the assembling of the coaching staff, the cards were tightly held. Would assume that will be true with the selection of guys to fill out the roster, with little if any info coming out beforehand. As it should be, since the hoops world is full of predators.
TL
 

RUMBA-JK

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OK, more internet fretting, like what we all did about publicizing the roster of assistants. We really do not know who the staff is looking at--we only know that in the assembling of the coaching staff, the cards were tightly held. Would assume that will be true with the selection of guys to fill out the roster, with little if any info coming out beforehand. As it should be, since the hoops world is full of predators.
TL

No fretting here - just curiosity ...
simply wonder how things are going to unfold -
 

higgins3

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Look I like Laurent--but I don't remember him making many shots outside of 8 feet. If you are going to be the 3 you MUST be able to stretch the defense.

I think he gets down a semi reliable jumper by year 3. Maybe shoots it at .31-33 percent. I am a big fan of his game as well. Fast kid, I think Pikiell will try to get him going in transition more than Jordan did.
 
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Scarlet Shack

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You must have one forward on the floor that can stretch the defense ...thiam as a high post four could complement Laurent very well as well as freemen

The duo of freeman and Laurent however lacks outside shooting
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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You must have one forward on the floor that can stretch the defense ...thiam as a high post four could complement Laurent very well as well as freemen

The duo of freeman and Laurent however lacks outside shooting

Laurent was 5-22 from 3. Obviously the % is bad, but the fact he took (was allowed to take) 22 3s tell me there is a shooter there.
 
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ColonelRutgers

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It tells me a guy is taking bad shots out of his range and his coach is letting him get away with it.
 

motel00

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Laurent does not have good shooting form, doesn't bode well for any hope of him becoming a consistent outside threat.
 

Scangg

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3 point shooting is something you can work at. He won't be a sharp shooter maybe but hopefully develops a consistent jumper if he's wide open
 

motel00

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I've seen good shooters with good form become great shooters. I've never seen guys with bad form develop into good consistent shooters.
 

Bdodger2

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I've seen good shooters with good form become great shooters. I've never seen guys with bad form develop into good consistent shooters.

Agreed. Laurent is a good athlete who lacks basketball skills. He can still be a solid piece of a good team. His athleticism and hustle add value. I just do not see him as a quality shooter. If he could at least improve his ball handling skills that would enhance his value to the team.
 
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RU-Choppin-Ohio

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Agreed. Laurent is a good athlete who lacks basketball skills. He can still be a solid piece of a good team. His athleticism and hustle add value. I just do not see him as a quality shooter. If he could at least improve his ball handling skills that would enhance his value to the team.

Lacks basketball skills? That's harsh. He scored almost 10 points per game in B1G games as a true freshmen.

He does not have horrible form, maybe a little tweaking and taking a lot of shots in the gym.

He shot at around the .58 mark shows pretty good form.

 
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Bdodger2

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Lacks basketball skills? That's harsh. He scored almost 10 points per game in B1G games as a true freshmen

I will assume for purposes of this discussion that your stats are accurate. He is a very good athlete who scored in transition and around the basket. I will not attempt to determine whether his stats were higher against bottom tier Big Ten teams or were accumulated after the game was out of hand - a frequent situation for us last season. He is a wing who can neither shoot nor ball handle all that well. As a wing his skill set is below average. As I also noted, he does have value to the team due to his athleticism and hustle. If you consider that overall assessment harsh, so be it.
 

scarletrat

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bdodger, who would you say is realistic for us as 2016 commit(s)? what would make you happy?
 

RU-Choppin-Ohio

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I will assume for purposes of this discussion that your stats are accurate. He is a very good athlete who scored in transition and around the basket. I will not attempt to determine whether his stats were higher against bottom tier Big Ten teams or were accumulated after the game was out of hand - a frequent situation for us last season. He is a wing who can neither shoot nor ball handle all that well. As a wing his skill set is below average. As I also noted, he does have value to the team due to his athleticism and hustle. If you consider that overall assessment harsh, so be it.

Call me crazy....... I guess guys can't improve their ball handling or other aspects of their game from Year 1 to 2 to 3 to 4. As noted, his shooting form is good. If you look at that shot from the corner at the .55 second mark and tell me it's bad form....I'm lost at what you are seeing. Yes, it was only shot, but, that's the same form he showed all year.

AND yes, he average 9.5 PPG in B1G games as a True Freshmen. Sure, he scored most of those points in garbage time....:rolleyes:
 
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bdodger, who would you say is realistic for us as 2016 commit(s)? what would make you happy?

Scarlet - I really have no sense who is being targeted for 2016. I like Thiamm as a 4 year player. No idea whether his commitment is firm. I do not know if the staff is pursuing Manigault - he is a 6'7/6'8 power forward who de-committed from Pitt when Dixon left. Like Thiam, I like him as a solid 4 year player. I do not know whether Knight is close to him or desires to pursue him.

The staff appears to be working very hard. I simply have no sense of who they have targeted at this point or who is realistic.
 
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RickB113

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Agreed. Laurent is a good athlete who lacks basketball skills. He can still be a solid piece of a good team. His athleticism and hustle add value. I just do not see him as a quality shooter. If he could at least improve his ball handling skills that would enhance his value to the team.
WHAT?!?!?! This post shows an almost complete lack of ability to judge basketball talent. Laurent is one of the more skilled players we have had here in a long time. He has a shot a developing a complete game to almost all big ten levels by senior season. He has a good handle. Has shown the ability to finish in traffic. His form on his jumper is more than fine. In fact I would say it is good. Plenty good to develop into a 3 point shooter by Junior season. Above average athleticism. Again with good players around him I predict second third team all big ten as a senior.
 
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zebnatto

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I think I see Laurent more positively than most--doing at the college level what Dennis Rodman was able to do in the NBA: run the floor, create matchup problems due to being a "long" 6'6", rebound relentlessly. And if he can shoot from 18" all the better.