week 9 attendance

Go Budaw · Nov 1, 2021

Leeshouldveflanked said:
Nothing to do with Covid or Leach. 100% due to Gameday Experience. Our AD hasn’t a clue on how to promote or run a MSU Gameday.

If you have a winning football team and the fans don’t show up, it’s on them for the attendance sucking. There’s a lot in play there….COVID, Halloween, fill in the blank hunting <fill in="" the="" blank="" with="" an="" animal="">season, small fanbase to begin with, but it all boils down to the fans. The AD, players, and coaches have more than done their job in terms of the product on the field.

And, nobody owes you a damn thing in terms of the “gameday experience”. It’s guaranteed to suck worse than sitting at home for everything that happens outside the stadium itself, no matter who you are or what school you visit. Either deal with it or just concede that it sucks across college football as a whole. MSU is par for the course for all schools.</fill>

johnson86-1 · Nov 1, 2021

57stratdawg said:
I think there is more going on than team performance and time slots. I feel like COVID has cost MSU 5% to 10% attendance, and I’m not sure they’re coming back. Definitely not in 2021.

I think we certainly are seeing an impact from Covid, but performance is still a big part of it too. We had three straight seasons where we pretty regularly just played like **** on offense. Even in 2018, when we had a good year overall, we had some extremely frustrating performances by that offense. We are getting better, but have still looked pretty bad at times this year. We're 8 games into this year and four of them have ranged from frustrating to infuriating to watch. Before this weekend, it was 4 our of 7 games. It's a lot to expect people to invest their entire weekend into the game with a significant risk that it's going to be frustrating as hell to watch.

Every game the team goes without laying an egg on offense is a game that is going to get more people to buy back into the team and the stadium experience. Hopefully we have truly turned a corner and we are going to be able to execute our offense going forward, with only the roughly once a year terrible game that Leach is known for (but in reality most coaches have, although some recruit well enough to avoid losses in those games).

natchezdawg · Nov 1, 2021

This behavior is not something unique to Mississippi State football fans...

there are a lot folks out there who simply can't have a good time anywhere, under any circumstance...

jxndawg · Nov 1, 2021

Talked to a buddy of mine who works in college athletics (not at MSU) a while back about declining attendance, esp. at football ... he said that the general consensus is that it's a stew made up of a bunch of issues, from all the games being on tv/streaming, increased ticket prices, etc. and that every school is trying to reverse it by making game day being an experience that you can't get on tv with amenities, activities, etc. My uneducated hunch is that every factor (availability of games on tv, being able to watch our game plus all the others by staying at home, avoiding cost/hassle of attendance) peels a certain number of fans away, and your Alabamas and such have so many fans that they can lose those folks and still have 100k left over who'll come to the game. But I also agree that winning will make more people want to be there in person, to be a part of it.

PirateDawg · Nov 1, 2021

dawgstudent said:
I do think people react to how "invested" Leach is. He is who he is but he isn't going to beat the streets asking for fan involvement. And I think fans pick up on that.

So, if Leach was jumping around, acting a fool on the sidelines you think the stadium would fill up for the next game?? Pleaaasseeee! What Leach does on the sidelines has nothing to do with butts in the seats. Winning is #1 when it comes to filling a stadium. Fans don't enjoy the long ride home after a loss. I didn't read any posts on here after the UK game complaining that "Leach didn't jump around like a monkey on the sidelines so I want my money back!"

The Peeper · Nov 1, 2021

Fans bitched so much about it taking so long to do it in cups they went to koozies to speed up the process

kired · Nov 1, 2021

$7 - $8 iirc

8dog · Nov 1, 2021

Add in the fact that a lot of people got their first taste of sitting at home last year when they had to and liked it. Also our stadium is abnormally large for population in our area.

Smoked Toag · Nov 1, 2021

8dog said:
Add in the fact that a lot of people got their first taste of sitting at home last year when they had to and liked it. Also our stadium is abnormally large for population in our area.

This is just hard for me to believe. Even the most hardcore season ticket holders have seen games on TV. This isn't some huge awakening or revelation. I mean you expect me to believe Joe SectionB sat in his recliner and lit his big green egg one day and was like, "WOW!!! I've been missing out!!!" Ain't no way.

People staying home are older people who are affected by COVID (and just logistics), and people with kids (who are spending their money on soccer or baseball). That's the real talk here.

NTDawg · Nov 1, 2021

SirBarksalot said:
How much are beers?

They don't take cash only plastic, so they are free. This was also my first game since the piss and the miss. I drank a lot of beers and have no idea how much I paid.

8dog · Nov 1, 2021

Ralph Cramden · Nov 1, 2021

If the game day experience is too ****** for any of yall you can feel free to donate your tickets to me. I will go experience the hard pretzels and bird **** for you.

Ralph Cramden · Nov 1, 2021

Im thinking about going to the TSU game. Tickets are dirt cheap and probly won't be crowded at all. Won't be as exciting as the Egg Bowl, but hey, it will be fun

greenbean.sixpack · Nov 1, 2021

jxndawg said:
Talked to a buddy of mine who works in college athletics (not at MSU) a while back about declining attendance, esp. at football ... he said that the general consensus is that it's a stew made up of a bunch of issues, from all the games being on tv/streaming, increased ticket prices, etc. and that every school is trying to reverse it by making game day being an experience that you can't get on tv with amenities, activities, etc. My uneducated hunch is that every factor (availability of games on tv, being able to watch our game plus all the others by staying at home, avoiding cost/hassle of attendance) peels a certain number of fans away, and your Alabamas and such have so many fans that they can lose those folks and still have 100k left over who'll come to the game. But I also agree that winning will make more people want to be there in person, to be a part of it.

At the very least we need Ceasefire to bring in extra towers on game day and/or beef up in stadium wifi. Neither work well in the Scoreboard Club.

Rezpup · Nov 1, 2021

johnson86-1 said:
I think we certainly are seeing an impact from Covid, but performance is still a big part of it too. We had three straight seasons where we pretty regularly just played like **** on offense. Even in 2018, when we had a good year overall, we had some extremely frustrating performances by that offense. We are getting better, but have still looked pretty bad at times this year. We're 8 games into this year and four of them have ranged from frustrating to infuriating to watch. Before this weekend, it was 4 our of 7 games. It's a lot to expect people to invest their entire weekend into the game with a significant risk that it's going to be frustrating as hell to watch.

Every game the team goes without laying an egg on offense is a game that is going to get more people to buy back into the team and the stadium experience. Hopefully we have truly turned a corner and we are going to be able to execute our offense going forward, with only the roughly once a year terrible game that Leach is known for (but in reality most coaches have, although some recruit well enough to avoid losses in those games).

This ^^^

Eta: despite a little less attendance the fans in the stadium have been Uber involved so I think the atmosphere has been very good

Maroonthirteen · Nov 1, 2021

dawgstudent said:
I think to get fans to buy back in - you need a coach that buys in. Leach himself isn't going to sell tickets outside of winning. He's not that type of guy. He's not going to do a statewide tour and hug babies and shake hands.

I get what you're saying. Mullen always asked and begged the fans to show up. He talked about it over and over. Mullen came across as anxious and high energy.

Leach only talks about exactly what he is asked. He seems to have an insouciant attitude towards all things.

of course on the list of why people don't come to games, this would rank around 100.

coachnorm · Nov 1, 2021

Ralph Cramden said:
Im thinking about going to the TSU game. Tickets are dirt cheap and probly won't be crowded at all. Won't be as exciting as the Egg Bowl, but hey, it will be fun

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Insofar as game day experience is concerned, an organization has to target an audience. Consider what the NFL is doing in London for its future intentions. If Miss St wants to fill up the stadium, it needs to get the youth engaged in the game. This means entertaining them to get interest? I will soon be 70 years old and understand that the old gray beards are only going to be around so long so our replacements need to be activated.

I personally have no complaints. It cost me a thousand dollars to fly into Starkville from to San Diego to watch a game but still my shelf life is getting short? Also, BTW you would have to put a gun to my head to get me to watch a SEC team play Tenn St.? If I lived locally and paid for season tickets and had the week eleven crap imposed on me, I would be enraged. No joy in that.

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