We just don't have the firepower
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Freeman continues to take some stupid shots, sometimes he's determined to put up a shot when he gets the ball and refuses to kick it back out. Took a couple of real head scratchers tonight.
Not sure how long it is going to take the staff to reprogram Corey Sanders. Corey should model his game after Melo Trimble.
With all the dribble penetration Corey had 1 assist, 1 desperation 3, and 1 basket off of dribble penetration. Beating his man off the dribble only to get empty possessions.
Everyone is pro Pikiell, including me. At some point the staff has to be blamed for our offensive woes.
With all the dribble penetration Corey had 1 assist, 1 desperation 3, and 1 basket off of dribble penetration. Beating his man off the dribble only to get empty possessions.
Everyone is pro Pikiell, including me. At some point the staff has to be blamed for our offensive woes.
Our roster has too many similar glue guys who are role players on a good team, they offer nothing offensively. Has anyone noticed any offensive improvement during the season in Thiam? Sa? Laurent? Even Sanders?It is disappointing to say the least. While we play harder and play much better defensively this season, offense is usually fueled by talent, and our roster just lacks that talent
Not a good game by CS tonight. Hard to argue with that. The difference between a 20 point loss and a 10 point loss.
Sanders struggles against the top guards in this league, always has. Has to take that next step or he will just be considered a good guard that played at RU.
RU just does not have the offense to win a game against a team like Maryland. They brought their A game and RU crumbled. I was worried a bit because Maryland played strong defense and we were really struggling in our offense, alot of lucky shots went down for us...Freeman 3, Sanders desperation 3, some lucky tip ins. I thought it was a matter of time before the floodgates were going to open for Maryland and said as much in the game thread
RU just does not have the offense to win a game against a team like Maryland. They brought their A game and RU crumbled. I was worried a bit because Maryland played strong defense and we were really struggling in our offense, alot of lucky shots went down for us...Freeman 3, Sanders desperation 3, some lucky tip ins. I thought it was a matter of time before the floodgates were going to open for Maryland and said as much in the game thread
Yeah it was not a good offensive night. But the game was lost on the defensive end.That was the worst half of defense we played the whole year. Maryland might as well been running their offense in practice. There was no pressure on the ball, no hedging on screens ,no group rebounding . Mike was a one man show for a good 5 minutes in every way, offense, defense, rebounding , loose balls. Our guards lousy defense allowing the Maryland guards to penetrate and then dish was too easy, and Corey and Nigel let their lousy defense affect hem on the offensive end. These are really hard games to take as a Rutgers fan when we do not play well especially in the second half. We have been waiting all year for CJ and Deshawn to take open shots which they did and they were made in the first half but our guards who have been carrying us offensively allow their crappy defense to affect their offense and become non factors. It is just so frustrating that we cannot get our top 6 to play one consistent game as a group.
Goru is on the money. 79 points allowed in 60 possessions is bad. 59 scored in 60 isn't terrible
2nd half was off charts bad. 47 points in a slow tempo game is jordanesque
2nd half was off charts bad. 47 points in a slow tempo game is jordanesque
I think the defense fell apart because the offense started to struggle at the start of the 2nd half...Maryland turned up the jets, it was only a matter of time before the gaskets blew. They moved the ball extremely well in the first half but seemed out of sync. You cannot put the blame on the defense that much when the other team is simply hands down better at every single position and can beat you inside and out. Maryland's A game as opposed to getting Northwestern's C game...that is the difference. We could play our A game and we were not beating Maryland tonight
Sorry. Interior D was bad, not getting 50 50s, Poor off the ball D, guys beat off the dribble, and too many MD OREBs.
Pikiell was very disappointed with the effort.
I thought Freeman and Gettys laid huge defensive eggs.
Pikiell was very disappointed with the effort.
I thought Freeman and Gettys laid huge defensive eggs.
Much better point guard. In fact of all positions on the court. The differential in the point guard position is the most lopsided.
I knew Trimble would school Sanders. Sanders has not shown up against the best guards in the league. To me something he really needs to do or he will just be another average good guard that came through the Banks. His hype far exceeds what he has shown on the court
what does Corey do well? At some point you have to conclude there is to many flaws in his game.
We have been epically bad offensively for the past 2 years. Yes supporting cast is real bad. Is he making players around him any better?
We have been epically bad offensively for the past 2 years. Yes supporting cast is real bad. Is he making players around him any better?
Maryland couldhave beaten almost every Big 10 team because they did play their A game, but this is where I disagree with your statement that if Rutgers played their A game and we were not winning . We played a D second half, a D on defense, A D on offense . If we play our normal tough defense Maryland as good as they looked because our defense was atrocious, doesn't come close to 79 points considering they were lucky to have 32 at the half . If we played our A game this is a game that goes to the wire . The game was lost on the defensive end and the Coach 's press conference puts the blame right there and he was not happy about it.
he cannot be point and be the offensive star this team needs...that is killing his game.
sorry but Rutgers' A game is not as good as Maryland's A game...they are a better team at every position and the bench players. Coaching wise Pike might have the edge
Our defense has neutralized every team's stars this year and make things more difficult to shoot to dribble to drive. Not tonight ! Last Maryland game we neutralized their whole team except for5 possessions that they hit 5 threes that was the difference between a win and a loss, along with our 10-24 foul shooting night . Tonight there was no resistance in the second half. We made M aryland look better than they are and better than they were playing lately.
sometimes we can, sometimes talent wins out. Trimble is a great guard and they can really move the ball better than most teams that RU has played. Remember in the first game,, Maryland went on a similar run to go up and put the game out of reach as well. Perhaps this just not a good matchup because of their quickness and ball movement
Trimble sets the tone offensively. Most of the time he penetrates to create for others.
CJ was the star of the game. Our guards were non-existent. First Half? Garbage points like make up fouls at the end of the game do not tell the accurate story of the game.
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Over analyzing it. Corey can't make our guys shoot better. We argue about the same things every year though so I am done. Last year it was Jordan's fault. This year it is the players fault. The reality is it was always the players fault. We CANT score because we lack players who can shoot. When can't score and the other team is raining threes it is tough to keep your head in the game on defense. I have personally been there. It weighs on you. I think Pike has done as good a job as possible of keeping these guys from breaking in games. Until we recruit some big time scorers it won't change. Defense is meaningless. It is what bad teams talk about and hang their hats on. Michigan is the best team in the big ten IMO and they are terrible defensively. Maryland was nothing great defensively and that they just whooped us. They can SCORE.
Open shots are easier to make than contested ones. How many times last night did Corey penetrate to the lane and pass? How many assists did Corey not get because players missed shots?
Corey is not to blame if he is following and listening to the coaching staff.
I only would blame the staff after a couple years of recruiting and the results remain the same. All the juggling in substitutions right now doesn't change the fact the team lack shooters.Trimble is a star player at Maryland because he can score and also pass to team mates who can finish around the basket as well as make 3 pointers.
The next 6 months are the biggest 6 months of the Pikiell era. He has a bunch of open scholarships he has to fill them with big time Rivals 150 type players not under the radar role player types. One way leads to a long and great career at the Banks for Pikiell the other way leads to another coaching search in four years.
I think the staff could be getting more out of the talent we have on the offensive end. Our record is 2-17. We are the worst offensive team in the B1G by far. We have serviceable low post offensive players and a guard that can blow by anyone off the dribble.
Can't keep reading how great Sanders is and how much Gettys will be missed and how Freeman was our best player in the 1sr half and how great Mike Williams is and how much better we will be next year and still be sitting at 2-17.
It all doesn't add up.
Can't keep reading how great Sanders is and how much Gettys will be missed and how Freeman was our best player in the 1sr half and how great Mike Williams is and how much better we will be next year and still be sitting at 2-17.
It all doesn't add up.
The other thought I have is about Shoes. So many of these players are his. I wasn't a fan of keeping him on board. How has he helped the program?
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I can't emphasize enough right now how much having outside threats are killing Sanders penetration game (which involves dishing out) and the spacing for Gettys and freeman
If you took Jerome Coleman and Ricky Shields and insert them in the line up at the two and three....with Sanders, Freeman, and Gettys....and have Johnson, Wiliams, Thima, Onaychi, and Doorson/Diallo getting 10-12 mpg of the bench.....I think we could be a on the right side bubble NCAA team right now....
I agree with you. The problem with Freeman's posting is compounded by the problem we have on offense. We don't move fast enough for this level competition. And if you notice what Maryland was able to do when a guy is driving towards the hoop; there's another player always cutting at the same time as another option and usually the ball is passed to that guy at the last second. This happened over and over again last night. Maybe we don't have enough guys who make that first move towards the hoop and stay in control to dump off the ball? But getting back to Freeman, his post move is in slow motion and maybe against non conference lower quality teams he can take the guy one on one and succeed. But in the big 10, he immediately gets doubled and sometimes tripled and doesn't pass the ball off fast enough or takes some wild shot where there's nobody to rebound.
There is an enourmous difference between Shields and Williams. Williams almost always wide open when he makes an outside shot. The slightest hand in his face throws him off. Ricky could stick it with a guy right in his face. Night and day between the two.
Actually there is. Ricky wasn't that great percentage wise, but Mike is very bad.
I still believe, and could be completely wrong, we would shoot the ball much better as a team if we were a better passing team and our players got better looks. A small part of our bad % is the fact that we don't take a lot of shots so our end of the shot clock heaves are a higher percent of our attmpts compared to other school. Again a small part of it. primary reason is we are just bad shooters.
I still believe, and could be completely wrong, we would shoot the ball much better as a team if we were a better passing team and our players got better looks. A small part of our bad % is the fact that we don't take a lot of shots so our end of the shot clock heaves are a higher percent of our attmpts compared to other school. Again a small part of it. primary reason is we are just bad shooters.
I think it is a BIG stretch to say that Corey isn't effective penetration because teams don't fear Mike Williams from the perimeter. It is because teams know he won't pass
Freeman isnt the problem...do you actually watch games??(hard to believe if U do)
Freeman 11pts/5 REBS 2 assists 1 steal 1 block
Sanders was 2-10 & a booming 6pts.............1 asst 1 REB nothing else.....
pls pls ple STOP driving right,,,,,they are ON to you !
pls...just once....pass it to CJ underneath the bucket
dispite you dissing arguably our best player
Freeman 11pts/5 REBS 2 assts 1 block 1 steal
Sanders was 2-10 & a booming 6pts.............much bigger problem
without Freeman we lose by 30pts
but please...continue the Freeman hate.....