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We jumped up to #169 in Kenpom.

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Knights 1212

All-American
Sep 9, 2003
27,562
8,519
113
I forget exactly but we were over #180 before the Drexel game and at this moment we are at #169 now. We just need to keep moving on up.
 
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Greene Rice FIG

Heisman
Dec 30, 2005
40,437
23,613
0
Crazy stat....we are 27th in effective height. Thinking about last year that is almost inconceivable. Effective height is height times minutes played. This number probably will come down. Our players won't shrink, but with freeman in foul trouble the minutes went to Sa and the 2 7 footers. However one could argue is Thiam improves and plays more it would make it go up.
 
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4theknights

Senior
Mar 9, 2012
729
752
73
Just wondering, if we started out #191, what would be good goal to end the year with this team? Do we crack the 100 plateau? Is it possible?
 
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RUONTHERISE

All-Conference
Jul 6, 2006
11,679
2,842
66
Hoping for a win over DePaul. Guessing a move in Kenpom up to low 150s with a win.
 
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RutgHoops

Heisman
Aug 14, 2008
9,243
12,431
102
Billy Garrett is a preseason 2nd Team All Big East selection. He was Depaul's 2nd leading scorer a year ago. He is likely to be the best player on the floor. Eli Cain (NJ kid-St Benedicts) was Depaul's third leading scorer a year ago and was an All-Big East frosh last season. Cain can shoot the three really well. McCallum is new and a JuCo kid and Docks is a 5th year kid who had a nice stretch at Western Kentucky (started his career at Butler). Leitao is a good HC and Depaul will be a well coached squad.

Not saying we can't win this game because we can. But this is a big step up from Drexel.
 
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Colbert17!

Heisman
Aug 30, 2014
17,456
18,915
113
Greene Rice FIG said:
Crazy stat....we are 27th in effective height. Thinking about last year that is almost inconceivable. Effective height is height times minutes played. This number probably will come down. Our players won't shrink, but with freeman in foul trouble the minutes went to Sa and the 2 7 footers. However one could argue is Thiam improves and plays more it would make it go up.
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Effective height!!?? That's a real stat!?? Holy crap the world's gone crazy!!
 
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Degaz-RU

Heisman
Dec 19, 2002
22,793
27,670
88
What is kenpom and why do we care what our ranking is after two games? Serious question, as I always see people on this site talking about kenpom, but I really don't know what the metrics are.
 
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BillyC80

Heisman
Oct 23, 2006
17,189
15,691
72
GRF, any word yet on our Effective Width ranking? With Gettys, Doorson and Bullock we must be in the top 10!
 
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Colbert17!

Heisman
Aug 30, 2014
17,456
18,915
113
Greene Rice FIG said:
Crazy stat....we are 27th in effective height. Thinking about last year that is almost inconceivable. Effective height is height times minutes played. This number probably will come down. Our players won't shrink, but with freeman in foul trouble the minutes went to Sa and the 2 7 footers. However one could argue is Thiam improves and plays more it would make it go up.
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My "vertical effectiveness" has declined. I'm going to lie down.
 
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HallX2

Senior
Mar 25, 2005
2,698
898
73
RutgHoops said:
Billy Garrett is a preseason 2nd Team All Big East selection. He was Depaul's 2nd leading scorer a year ago. He is likely to be the best player on the floor. Eli Cain (NJ kid-St Benedicts) was Depaul's third leading scorer a year ago and was an All-Big East frosh last season. Cain can shoot the three really well. McCallum is new and a JuCo kid and Docks is a 5th year kid who had a nice stretch at Western Kentucky (started his career at Butler). Leitao is a good HC and Depaul will be a well coached squad.

Not saying we can't win this game because we can. But this is a big step up from Drexel.
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Garrett is a fine player. Seems like he has been there forever. Has given the Hall fits for all his time at DePaul. Extra motivation I suppose.
 
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higgins3

All-Conference
Dec 15, 2012
7,319
2,434
113
RutgHoops said:
Billy Garrett is a preseason 2nd Team All Big East selection. He was Depaul's 2nd leading scorer a year ago. He is likely to be the best player on the floor. Eli Cain (NJ kid-St Benedicts) was Depaul's third leading scorer a year ago and was an All-Big East frosh last season. Cain can shoot the three really well. McCallum is new and a JuCo kid and Docks is a 5th year kid who had a nice stretch at Western Kentucky (started his career at Butler). Leitao is a good HC and Depaul will be a well coached squad.

Not saying we can't win this game because we can. But this is a big step up from Drexel.
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Their starting five seems to be lazy on defense. Lots of fouls. Early in the season, they ran 7 kids total. Garret is a strong driver, but has a very subpar three point shot. Back off him. Give him a little space off the 3pt line. I like Eli Cain a lot because he is Jersey bred. I hope he has a good game, but his team loses.
 
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RU-ROCS

All-American
Feb 5, 2003
12,469
7,713
113
RutgHoops said:
Billy Garrett is a preseason 2nd Team All Big East selection. He was Depaul's 2nd leading scorer a year ago. He is likely to be the best player on the floor. Eli Cain (NJ kid-St Benedicts) was Depaul's third leading scorer a year ago and was an All-Big East frosh last season. Cain can shoot the three really well. McCallum is new and a JuCo kid and Docks is a 5th year kid who had a nice stretch at Western Kentucky (started his career at Butler). Leitao is a good HC and Depaul will be a well coached squad.

Not saying we can't win this game because we can. But this is a big step up from Drexel.
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DePaul has big talented guards, but they are small in the front court. Their biggest starter is 6'7". They didn't play either of the their 6-10 guys in their first game. One is a freshman who probably was not ready and the other is a senior who has never been a big contributor. RU will need to exploit their lack of size in the inside game.
 
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higgins3

All-Conference
Dec 15, 2012
7,319
2,434
113
RU-ROCS said:
DePaul has big talented guards, but they are small in the front court. Their biggest starter is 6'7". They didn't play either of the their 6-10 guys in their first game. One is a freshman who probably was not ready and the other is a senior who has never been a big contributor. RU will need to exploit their lack of size in the inside game.
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I like the analysis. Lets outrebound them.
 
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knightfan7

Heisman
Jul 30, 2003
96,839
70,575
113
RutgHoops said:
Billy Garrett is a preseason 2nd Team All Big East selection. He was Depaul's 2nd leading scorer a year ago. He is likely to be the best player on the floor. Eli Cain (NJ kid-St Benedicts) was Depaul's third leading scorer a year ago and was an All-Big East frosh last season. Cain can shoot the three really well. McCallum is new and a JuCo kid and Docks is a 5th year kid who had a nice stretch at Western Kentucky (started his career at Butler). Leitao is a good HC and Depaul will be a well coached squad.

Not saying we can't win this game because we can. But this is a big step up from Drexel.
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Just asking. They were a bad team last year. They are universally picked to finish last in the Big East. If they have decent players and a good coach, what holds them back?
 
ScarletDave

ScarletDave

Heisman
Oct 7, 2010
34,677
15,512
85
I read DePaul's season preview from the Chicago Tribune ... they were bad last year (same level as when we were in the Big East, and we were bad but still would beat them) and are supposed to be worse this year. Lost talent, the re-hired their old coach, so hopefully it's a Throwback Thursday and we take them down without too much worry. For the record, they have played 1 game, they barely beat Robert Morris 78-71.
 
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RutgHoops

Heisman
Aug 14, 2008
9,243
12,431
102
knightfan7 said:
Just asking. They were a bad team last year. They are universally picked to finish last in the Big East. If they have decent players and a good coach, what holds them back?
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They may very well turn out to be a middling to bad basketball team. In fact if asked I would likely side with those experts who feel that way about Depaul. I do tend to let more of the season play out before deciding who I think is good or not. Simply was trying to give a high level overview of Deapul.

They would beat Drexel. Of that I am fairly certain.
 
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