Way Too Early Player Evals

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So ... because RU is 2-0, and it is more enjoyable to post on this Board after wins, I thought rather than a post mortem (my usualy post-game threads), I'd do a prelimiamry evaluation of the individual players.

Yes, it is only 2 games. Yes, the games were against poor teams. Yes, it is WAY too early for any truly worthwhile evaluations. But, hey, isn't that part of the fun of it?

So .. here are some "Way Too Early" thoughts:

1) So far, it seems that RU's best defensive 5 is the best offensive 5, also: The starting 5 of Davis and Francis at G, Grant and Badalau at F and Ogbole at C. More on that later.

2) The reserves have not shown they are reliable, except for Buchanan. RU WILL need something form the bench other than Buchanan, but it is not clear yet where that will come from.

3) RU's defense is showing much better than last season, especially the rotations on help defense - and especially from the starting 5, and when Buchanan and Dortch are the subs. Beyond those 7, the defensive rotations do need some work.

4) So far, it seems like the coaching staff has made the correct choices in their starters, and in the 1st man off the bench (Buchanan) - Buchanan may be able to be very effective, getting near starters minutes off the bench, like Hyatt, perhaps - better defender, not as good a 3-point shooter - maybe a better all round contributor than Hyatt, and maybe not as streaky (all good, in my book).

Players "Way Too Early" Thoughts - in no particular order, but starting with the starting 5:

Davis: Continues to look better and improved. Yes, he struggled with his shot early. Still, in the first 2 games he is shooting 44% overall, 43% from 3, 5 assists and 1 turnover along with 4 steals. He is clearly RU's best on-ball defender, as well - which is needed. And RU's clear PG, and appears to be at least solid. First 2 games: 11.5 PPG, 4 rpg, 5:1 assist to turnover ratio.

Francis: Okay .. I believe I was perhaps the most negative the most unhappy, the most ... malignant ... poster on RU picking him up as a transfer, and the supposed role for him this season. Not only did he start the 1st 2 games, but it is clear he deserves to start. Also, surprisingly to me he has show a bit greater quickness than I anticipated, and most importantly, MUCH better defense than I expected. Yeah, against 2 low-level, poor teams, teams against which he is probably suited to play. And yeah, he remains small, and we still have no idea how he will hold up either offensively or defensively against P5 competition. Still, he clearly has ben pretty good so far. And also he and Davis are very clearly RU;s 2 best defensive guards .. for whatever that is worth. Downside in the "way Too Early" evaluation: 4 turnovers against Maine ... ugh ... He does have to clean that up.

Grant: Most improved player - as I had hoped. Yeah, again, against weak sister teams. But ... 2 double-digit scoring games, a double-double versus Maine, and showing a very improved handle dribbling and driving, an okay mid-range, and NOT wildly hoisting up 3's - only 1 3-point try in 2 games .. 60% FG, 69% FT ... 13.5 ppg, 8.5 rpg (leading rebounder), and at least solid defense. This is the type of improvement we need to continue - for him to continue to improve so that he can be a double-digit scorer in the Big Ten play. He looks like he belongs, and he looks like he knows what he is doing (this latter an important statement that you will see used for those who so far do NOT look like they know what they are doing yet).

Ogbole: Improved defensively - he does appear to know where to be, how to position himself better, etc. Solid rebounding. No shot-making skills, still - and never going to get there, we have to believe. And still, despite his overall athleticism and strength, his athleticism is not explosive: He is slow to get off the ground, limiting his shot-making and his ability to block shots.. He would be better as a 15-20 mpg guy - and is actually only averaging 20 mpg - though with 7.5 rpg in those 20 minutes per game. sigh ... 4-5 ppg, 7-8 rpg would seem the ceiling.

Badalau: Well .. color me impressed, and pleasantly surprised. Not a star, but he is clearly one of RU's 5 best players. He was never going to be as poor as the 1-12 FG showed in the first game, and is not as good as the 6-11 FG in the second game, but would seem the type of player to average 40%+ overall FG and 33%+ 3-point FG - which will be very helpful to the team. He is a legit 6'8", solid strength (so can defend the 4 and 5), and he also really looks like he belongs, like he knows what he is doing. His defense is pleasantly solid - good positioning, good footwork, despite a lack of top end quickness and speed. Reminds me of Cam Spencer's defense - deceptively solid. The coaching staff made the correct choice in starting and playing him.

Buchanan: I thought he was a sure-fire starter pre-season - but the staff decided otherwise. And I would continue to bring him off the bench as the 6th man, subbing for Grant or Badalau, as appropriate - or even Francis on occasion (though it looks like Zrno often directly replaces Badalau, while Buchanan subs for Grant). I think we can see why Buchanan is listed as a G on the roster: He is closer to 6'5" than his listed 6'7", and he triggers the offense when he is in there. We saw he can be an effective facilitator (4 or 5 assists versus Maine) and is a solid WF/G defender. No outside shooting tires (just 1 3-pointer). He will get a lot of FT's - so hopefully he will do a little better than the 60% he is at now. And he does look to back down smaller and same-size defenders when he is up against 1 on 1 defensive coverage.

Those top 6 players are a solid start to the team .. but .. well .. after that, it is dicier.

Other player comments, in groups:

1) Dortch and Fall: Dortch is better than Fall .. period. Fall looks unusable, practically, even though he may offer a little more offense. Dortch offers no offense, but definitely is improved defensively. If he gets 20 pounds heavier, Dortch would possibly be better than Ogbole (low hurdle, maybe, but for perspective, and looking towards next season).

2) Nwuli: Very, very athletic .. completely clueless on help defense, a little out of control on offense. Not atypical for a freshman playing his first few games - especially a freshman who may have a lot of potential, but needs continued development. Hard to give him a lot of minutes when he plays so little help defense. Cannot tell yet the quality of his on-ball defense.

3) Zrno and Lino Mark: So far, both look rathe clueless on offense and defense, but both appear particularly clueless defensively. Zrno was touted when recruited as a potential leading scorer for this tea, I fear he is PJ Hayes - maybe a more well-rounded offensive player than Hayes, but equally useless and damaging on defense. Zrno looks slow and like he does not know what he is doing on defense. And bad combo. My guess is he will get better, and have some moments when he hits a few 3's to help RU, but is no more than a deep rotational piece. Mark looks quick, yes, but also like he has not come close to mastering either the offense or defense - but especially the defense - at college level. Obviously, he is a well-regarded prospect with plenty of time to develop, even within this season. And RU WILL need one of Mark or Zrno, at least, to develop into a useful 15+ mpg guy. We do have 3 more easier games coming up in order to give them a small amount of time. Badalau is MUCH better than Zrno right now - he really looks like he belongs on the court in a way Zrno does not, yet.

4) Deeper Reserves: Powers/Ware. Powers looked athletic with some height, and moved well on the court in the 1st game, DNP in the 2nd game. Ware? Who knows ... deep emergency reserve.

At this stage, RU's best defensively and offensively productive rotation would appear to be the starting 5, Buchanan, Dortch to back up Ogbole, and Nwuli/Zrno/Mark as situational reserves to hold the fort while the top 6 (non-centers) grab some rest. Fall as 3-4 minutes per game as the 3rd Center.
 

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Badalau is def biggest surprise. He looks very comfortable out there and a quick shot release. I can see him still being effective in Big Ten play given his experience in Italy and what we’ve seen

Zrno while maybe disappointing early, does have the best looking stroke, despite the 2 airballs in game one. He will be needed to hit a couple 3s a game to be competitive in Big Ten play.

Dortch has a high motor, quick feet, and real length and jumping ability. He goes after rebounds better than any of our other bigs. If he rebounds he will play. But he’s an absolute zero on offense, like Ogbole.

Davis and Franics look good early, but we know what will happen in big ten play when the other guards are bigger, stronger, taller, longer and more talented.
 
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Degaz-RU

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Good post.

The key for any success this season will hinge on: (1) Badalau's and Francis' scoring abilities to translate in games against better competition; (2) the development of Zrno and Mark to be solid rotational guards off the bench; (3) Grant to continue his progression as a leader and scorer/rebounder, but need to see some threes from him; (4) JMike to continue his progression as a steady PG who can occasionally score 10+ points; and .... wait for it... (5) Ogbole being able to stay on the floor for 25 minutes.

On that last point, everyone is correct that Fall is unplayable. I like what I've seen from Big E thus far, as he is rock solid rebounding and setting picks in the flow of the offense, and pretty good defensively. After that, it's a huge dropoff at the Center spot. Dortch really can't be on the floor more than 15 minutes, so that leaves E to play 25 minutes.
 
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So ... because RU is 2-0, and it is more enjoyable to post on this Board after wins, I thought rather than a post mortem (my usualy post-game threads), I'd do a prelimiamry evaluation of the individual players.

Yes, it is only 2 games. Yes, the games were against poor teams. Yes, it is WAY too early for any truly worthwhile evaluations. But, hey, isn't that part of the fun of it?

So .. here are some "Way Too Early" thoughts:

1) So far, it seems that RU's best defensive 5 is the best offensive 5, also: The starting 5 of Davis and Francis at G, Grant and Badalau at F and Ogbole at C. More on that later.

2) The reserves have not shown they are reliable, except for Buchanan. RU WILL need something form the bench other than Buchanan, but it is not clear yet where that will come from.

3) RU's defense is showing much better than last season, especially the rotations on help defense - and especially from the starting 5, and when Buchanan and Dortch are the subs. Beyond those 7, the defensive rotations do need some work.

4) So far, it seems like the coaching staff has made the correct choices in their starters, and in the 1st man off the bench (Buchanan) - Buchanan may be able to be very effective, getting near starters minutes off the bench, like Hyatt, perhaps - better defender, not as good a 3-point shooter - maybe a better all round contributor than Hyatt, and maybe not as streaky (all good, in my book).

Players "Way Too Early" Thoughts - in no particular order, but starting with the starting 5:

Davis: Continues to look better and improved. Yes, he struggled with his shot early. Still, in the first 2 games he is shooting 44% overall, 43% from 3, 5 assists and 1 turnover along with 4 steals. He is clearly RU's best on-ball defender, as well - which is needed. And RU's clear PG, and appears to be at least solid. First 2 games: 11.5 PPG, 4 rpg, 5:1 assist to turnover ratio.

Francis: Okay .. I believe I was perhaps the most negative the most unhappy, the most ... malignant ... poster on RU picking him up as a transfer, and the supposed role for him this season. Not only did he start the 1st 2 games, but it is clear he deserves to start. Also, surprisingly to me he has show a bit greater quickness than I anticipated, and most importantly, MUCH better defense than I expected. Yeah, against 2 low-level, poor teams, teams against which he is probably suited to play. And yeah, he remains small, and we still have no idea how he will hold up either offensively or defensively against P5 competition. Still, he clearly has ben pretty good so far. And also he and Davis are very clearly RU;s 2 best defensive guards .. for whatever that is worth. Downside in the "way Too Early" evaluation: 4 turnovers against Maine ... ugh ... He does have to clean that up.

Grant: Most improved player - as I had hoped. Yeah, again, against weak sister teams. But ... 2 double-digit scoring games, a double-double versus Maine, and showing a very improved handle dribbling and driving, an okay mid-range, and NOT wildly hoisting up 3's - only 1 3-point try in 2 games .. 60% FG, 69% FT ... 13.5 ppg, 8.5 rpg (leading rebounder), and at least solid defense. This is the type of improvement we need to continue - for him to continue to improve so that he can be a double-digit scorer in the Big Ten play. He looks like he belongs, and he looks like he knows what he is doing (this latter an important statement that you will see used for those who so far do NOT look like they know what they are doing yet).

Ogbole: Improved defensively - he does appear to know where to be, how to position himself better, etc. Solid rebounding. No shot-making skills, still - and never going to get there, we have to believe. And still, despite his overall athleticism and strength, his athleticism is not explosive: He is slow to get off the ground, limiting his shot-making and his ability to block shots.. He would be better as a 15-20 mpg guy - and is actually only averaging 20 mpg - though with 7.5 rpg in those 20 minutes per game. sigh ... 4-5 ppg, 7-8 rpg would seem the ceiling.

Badalau: Well .. color me impressed, and pleasantly surprised. Not a star, but he is clearly one of RU's 5 best players. He was never going to be as poor as the 1-12 FG showed in the first game, and is not as good as the 6-11 FG in the second game, but would seem the type of player to average 40%+ overall FG and 33%+ 3-point FG - which will be very helpful to the team. He is a legit 6'8", solid strength (so can defend the 4 and 5), and he also really looks like he belongs, like he knows what he is doing. His defense is pleasantly solid - good positioning, good footwork, despite a lack of top end quickness and speed. Reminds me of Cam Spencer's defense - deceptively solid. The coaching staff made the correct choice in starting and playing him.

Buchanan: I thought he was a sure-fire starter pre-season - but the staff decided otherwise. And I would continue to bring him off the bench as the 6th man, subbing for Grant or Badalau, as appropriate - or even Francis on occasion (though it looks like Zrno often directly replaces Badalau, while Buchanan subs for Grant). I think we can see why Buchanan is listed as a G on the roster: He is closer to 6'5" than his listed 6'7", and he triggers the offense when he is in there. We saw he can be an effective facilitator (4 or 5 assists versus Maine) and is a solid WF/G defender. No outside shooting tires (just 1 3-pointer). He will get a lot of FT's - so hopefully he will do a little better than the 60% he is at now. And he does look to back down smaller and same-size defenders when he is up against 1 on 1 defensive coverage.

Those top 6 players are a solid start to the team .. but .. well .. after that, it is dicier.

Other player comments, in groups:

1) Dortch and Fall: Dortch is better than Fall .. period. Fall looks unusable, practically, even though he may offer a little more offense. Dortch offers no offense, but definitely is improved defensively. If he gets 20 pounds heavier, Dortch would possibly be better than Ogbole (low hurdle, maybe, but for perspective, and looking towards next season).

2) Nwuli: Very, very athletic .. completely clueless on help defense, a little out of control on offense. Not atypical for a freshman playing his first few games - especially a freshman who may have a lot of potential, but needs continued development. Hard to give him a lot of minutes when he plays so little help defense. Cannot tell yet the quality of his on-ball defense.

3) Zrno and Lino Mark: So far, both look rathe clueless on offense and defense, but both appear particularly clueless defensively. Zrno was touted when recruited as a potential leading scorer for this tea, I fear he is PJ Hayes - maybe a more well-rounded offensive player than Hayes, but equally useless and damaging on defense. Zrno looks slow and like he does not know what he is doing on defense. And bad combo. My guess is he will get better, and have some moments when he hits a few 3's to help RU, but is no more than a deep rotational piece. Mark looks quick, yes, but also like he has not come close to mastering either the offense or defense - but especially the defense - at college level. Obviously, he is a well-regarded prospect with plenty of time to develop, even within this season. And RU WILL need one of Mark or Zrno, at least, to develop into a useful 15+ mpg guy. We do have 3 more easier games coming up in order to give them a small amount of time. Badalau is MUCH better than Zrno right now - he really looks like he belongs on the court in a way Zrno does not, yet.

4) Deeper Reserves: Powers/Ware. Powers looked athletic with some height, and moved well on the court in the 1st game, DNP in the 2nd game. Ware? Who knows ... deep emergency reserve.

At this stage, RU's best defensively and offensively productive rotation would appear to be the starting 5, Buchanan, Dortch to back up Ogbole, and Nwuli/Zrno/Mark as situational reserves to hold the fort while the top 6 (non-centers) grab some rest. Fall as 3-4 minutes per game as the 3rd Center.
Badalau reminds me of the lengthy guard/forwards that Iowa has used to wreck us over the last decade.
 

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Lion good post and observations.

The key to any success is that Dylan Grant be prioritized. He has elevated his game with the improved handle and driving ability and wants to attack the rim every time. Once in BIg 10 play , we will get man to man defense almost exclusively unlike the zone these smaller out of conference teams play. I am confident from what I have seen that Dylan can be our go to scorer. If Dylan is guarded well he needs to spray it out and Badalau or Zrno or Francis has to knock down 3’s which is the one way to success. Buchanon can also handle man to man defense and can be used as well. Pike is subbing Buchanon for Dylan which is a mistake. They have to be on the floor together as 2 legitimate offensive threats that can breakdown their defenders.
Francis and Jmike , who looks improved and more confident , will be up against it in conference not just having a harder time scoring but defending as well.
Badalau and Zrno have to play but in particular shoot more like Cam Spencer than like JP Hayes if we are going to have any success. I like their Euro experience and we have to hope it translates.

Then the obvious issue is the Center spot. Ogbole although healthy has not developed offensively . Really think we can get away with Bryce playing center and his defense , block shot ability and rebounding is solid. But for the life of me , how he and I mean the staff has not developed one ounce of an offensive ability is shameful. He has been here a little over a year. His offensive rebounding has been good and his tip outs are as well , but if he just grabbed the damn offensive rebound and took it to the hole and flushed it , that would give us a chance. Pike and staff including Jay Young should be working this day and night. This team has some grit seems to play hard but will be up against it in conference.
Too early to see the freshman impact but thinking Nwuili and Mark will help here.
 
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If the 2 freshman can’t get minutes in these tuneups, then I can’t see them playing against P4 teams this year.
Nwuili and Mark played high level California high school basketball so they should be able to play in conference. They have not shined so far but they are freshman and are learning g especially defensively. Nwuili can play defense from his tape so they just need time.
 
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Excellent and fair post. My hope is that at least two of the next tier of players beyond the top six can improve fast enough to provide consistent minutes/contributions. It's a long season and we can't rely on just six guys. But as you said in your title - it's still early.
 
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Seems like for now we can only expect spot minutes for Nwulli, Mark, Powers, and Ware (and likely Fall unless he improves) which leaves us with this 9-man rotation, which I would play as follows:

5: Ogbole-20, Dortch-15, Fall-5
4: Grant-30, Badalau-10
3: Badalau-20, Buchanan-20
2: Francis-20, Buchanan-10, Zrno-10
1: JMike-30, Francis-10

In this scenario we’d have our best 5 players going 30 minutes each which means our spot players will have to step up to give those guys a breather and reduce their workload to get through the long season’s grind.
 

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Seems like for now we can only expect spot minutes for Nwulli, Mark, Powers, and Ware (and likely Fall unless he improves) which leaves us with this 9-man rotation, which I would play as follows:

5: Ogbole-20, Dortch-15, Fall-5
4: Grant-30, Badalau-10
3: Badalau-20, Buchanan-20
2: Francis-20, Buchanan-10, Zrno-10
1: JMike-30, Francis-10

In this scenario we’d have our best 5 players going 30 minutes each which means our spot players will have to step up to give those guys a breather and reduce their workload to get through the long season’s grind.
This proposal makes a ton of sense, for the most part, presuming the top 5 players' performance can translate to P4 games.

I suspect the staff will want to see if Nwuli and Mark can contribute at least 8-10 minutes per game each - if not more. Maybe build their skills, especially teach them how to better master Pikiell's defensive style and scheme - neither will play much until that happens, barring injury. But neither saw that time in the Maine game, eh? Not sure how that changes the minutes mix, or of it will happen.
 

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This proposal makes a ton of sense, for the most part, presuming the top 5 players' performance can translate to P4 games.

I suspect the staff will want to see if Nwuli and Mark can contribute at least 8-10 minutes per game each - if not more. Maybe build their skills, especially teach them how to better master Pikiell's defensive style and scheme - neither will play much until that happens, barring injury. But neither saw that time in the Maine game, eh? Not sure how that changes the minutes mix, or of it will happen.
Let’s hope that somebody emerges as this year’s Dylan Grant, who came on strong mid-season and left us fans scratching our heads as to why he wasn’t given more minutes earlier.
 

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If the 2 freshman can’t get minutes in these tuneups, then I can’t see them playing against P4 teams this year.
It takes different players different times to adjust to college basketball. Last year, Dylan Grant missed his first nine shots and seemed unplayable until the Big Ten schedule started. After that he became a starter and kept improving!
 

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Nicely done Jelly. Dont disagree with much.

Nwuli's bball iq improvement would be such an assett
 
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I’d like to see more Ware. He moved well in his limited time and hopefully he can progress quickly thru the season.
 

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I’d like to see more Ware. He moved well in his limited time and hopefully he can progress quickly thru the season.

I get why you say that.

But understand, that he and Kaden Powers went up against Rider’s deep bench. There has to be a reason Pike is choosing to put Fall in over him in non garbage time. There’s a good chance he’s not close to ready, unfortunately.
 

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I get why you say that.

But understand, that he and Kaden Powers went up against Rider’s deep bench. There has to be a reason Pike is choosing to put Fall in over him in non garbage time. There’s a good chance he’s not close to ready, unfortunately.

That makes sense, but sometimes you just have to throw guys into the fire to see how they respond.

It’s a low risk for the first 5 games of the season so I would err on the side of getting these guys some game tape at least. They can at least then see where they’re at vs live completion and we’re going to need them as we get deeper into the season.

one of the key benefits I see of this years team is just the # of bodies on the team. Hopefully that turns into real depth (jury still out), and you can play more guys so each minute of play has more effort behind it, rather than having a guy play 38 minutes and has to pace their effort.
 

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I think Powers is someone Id like to see get the spot minutes at guard before Lino next game, he at least looked pretty athletic in the short time he saw against Rider and has decent shooting pedigree.
 
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Seems like for now we can only expect spot minutes for Nwulli, Mark, Powers, and Ware (and likely Fall unless he improves) which leaves us with this 9-man rotation, which I would play as follows:

5: Ogbole-20, Dortch-15, Fall-5
4: Grant-30, Badalau-10
3: Badalau-20, Buchanan-20
2: Francis-20, Buchanan-10, Zrno-10
1: JMike-30, Francis-10

In this scenario we’d have our best 5 players going 30 minutes each which means our spot players will have to step up to give those guys a breather and reduce their workload to get through the long season’s grind.
As of today, if I had to do all I could to win a game that would be the minutes break down that I would use except I would have Ogbole play 25 minutes and Fall 0. If I got a safe lead I would try to get minutes for Fall, Nwuli and Mark. If it was a true blowout I would get minutes for Powers and Ware too. Hopefully Fall and the nonEuropean freshman will catch on and the bench will get deeper.
 
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Let’s hope that somebody emerges as this year’s Dylan Grant, who came on strong mid-season and left us fans scratching our heads as to why he wasn’t given more minutes earlier.
All you had to do was watch Grant play earlier and it was pretty clear why he wasnt getting more minutes early on. If there was an award for most improved, he deserved it.
 
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Badalau is def biggest surprise. He looks very comfortable out there and a quick shot release. I can see him still being effective in Big Ten play given his experience in Italy and what we’ve seen

Zrno while maybe disappointing early, does have the best looking stroke, despite the 2 airballs in game one. He will be needed to hit a couple 3s a game to be competitive in Big Ten play.

Dortch has a high motor, quick feet, and real length and jumping ability. He goes after rebounds better than any of our other bigs. If he rebounds he will play. But he’s an absolute zero on offense, like Ogbole.

Davis and Franics look good early, but we know what will happen in big ten play when the other guards are bigger, stronger, taller, longer and more talented.
Don't really know about Ogbole's offense. Outside of alley oops he doesn't ever touch the ball. I'm pretty sure he could have scored given the ball down low against Maine and Rider.
 

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Seems like for now we can only expect spot minutes for Nwulli, Mark, Powers, and Ware (and likely Fall unless he improves) which leaves us with this 9-man rotation, which I would play as follows:

5: Ogbole-20, Dortch-15, Fall-5
4: Grant-30, Badalau-10
3: Badalau-20, Buchanan-20
2: Francis-20, Buchanan-10, Zrno-10
1: JMike-30, Francis-10

In this scenario we’d have our best 5 players going 30 minutes each which means our spot players will have to step up to give those guys a breather and reduce their workload to get through the long season’s grind.
Sounds about right. I might even play Grant at some 5. Defensively it keeps him near the basket, and he might be our best rebounder.
 
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Don't really know about Ogbole's offense. Outside of alley oops he doesn't ever touch the ball. I'm pretty sure he could have scored given the ball down low against Maine and Rider.
Ogbole is valuable to the team if he does what he is good at, which is defense, blocking shots, rebounding and dunks. Unfortunately, he will probably hurt the team if they try to feed the ball inside to him to much because he doesn’t have good hands or much in the way of post moves. That being said, if he can stay out of foul trouble and defend Big Ten bigs effectively, he will be one of our most valuable players.
 

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Ogbole is valuable to the team if he does what he is good at, which is defense, blocking shots, rebounding and dunks. Unfortunately, he will probably hurt the team if they try to feed the ball inside to him to much because he doesn’t have good hands or much in the way of post moves. That being said, if he can stay out of foul trouble and defend Big Ten bigs effectively, he will be one of our most valuable players.
Maybe. He doesn't have great hands, but he has no post moves because the staff doesn't teach any post moves - ie. Myles Johnson and big Cliff.
 

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Excellent post and good replies.

Hopefully, Rutgers can develop a Press/Pressure defense to tire the opponents.
If not, the 5 position is likely to have 2 players foul out and end in some blowout games.
 

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Bc hand-eye
Maybe. He doesn't have great hands, but he has no post moves because the staff doesn't teach any post moves - ie. Myles Johnson and big Cliff.
bc you can’t fix uncoordination. Ogbole is even less coordinated and athletic than MJ. No hands, can’t dribble even one bounce, can’t shoot and rebounding “prowess” if you want to call it that is only due to height and camping out on D three feet from the basket. Both of them, offense zeros. Tall and nothing more. high major Basketball players only in the sense that they wear the Rutgers uniform.

Cliff marginally more coordinated but of course far more athletic. Still, anything other than a dunk was a miracle shot for him.