Watching coaches?

JagsDad

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How many fans watch what the coaches are doing during the game? Do the coaches “coach” when the players come to the sideline? Or do they just watch the game? This is one of the things that drive me crazy! If all the coaches want to watch a game buy a damm ticket!!!! The players are on the field to learn, and they will not get better if they do not learn what they are doing wrong as it is happening. If any coaches want to chime in be my guest.
 
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Moparforever

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This is kinda funny cause I love watching our coach he is SO animated during the games. Always waiting on his signature “jump kicks” or the lovely” fairy twirl “ :D Yeah there is no moments of not coaching going on down on the sidelines. When something good or bad happens the iPad is out and they are showing kids what happened.
 
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JagsDad

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That should be happening on every sideline! Only coach that should be watching the whole game is the head coach and the coaches in the box!
 
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crest91

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I think it was 2014, Second round of the playoffs against West Rowan Crest offensive line coach had the boys sitting on the bench, and he just punched the hell out of his drawing board. I laughed my *** off. Crest won 28-7, but they definitely struggled against a team they should have destroyed
 

ForestCityMan

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A true coach is not just watching the game from the field or up top. A real coach is watching and studying opposing defenses and offenses. A real coach is watching his own player’s technique, looking to see what will work for certain formations and looks. A real coach will congratulate a player for making a good play or tell him what he can do better on making a bad play. By the way I am not a coach but I believe they are not “just watching the game”
 

smashmouth5

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Was at a game Friday that had coaches watching and it showed with effort on the field and the attitudes on the sidelines. Made me wonder if they stand and watch practice too.
 

JagsDad

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Was at a game Friday that had coaches watching and it showed with effort on the field and the attitudes on the sidelines. Made me wonder if they stand and watch practice too.
That is what I see. Talent and size and the players are not being coached to their potential.
 

RealJaguar01

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Forestview coaching has changed alot of the years. For one we didn't have anybody play 2 way football. When the offense came off the field the line went right to the bench and the backs and QBs behind us and the line coaches ( who was also I guess 2nd in command cuz our head coach was play caller )was drawing up on the marker board the formations we was in and made us point to where defenders was lining up and we adjusted from there and was not allowed off that bench until the D had forced a punt or they had given up 6. At some point the head coach would come back and say something. Half time was another story cuz you would NEVER be sitting in a group you wasnt a part of. Lineman with their own, backs and receivers and defensive players with the D Coordinator. You watch what's going on at Forestview now and it's the complete opposite, and its showing that no changes are being made. Now I'm not going to put down any coach on our staff but there are alot of changes that need to be made. owell into the Ashbrook game.
 

Deezheelz

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That is what I see. Talent and size and the players are not being coached to their potential.
I currently have a son at FV also and me and another parent were discussing this very same thing during the game Friday night. It’s actually something I’ve noticed every year my son has played their. Each unit comes off the field and disperse in different directions. No group huddling and coach’s asking nothing about what the players are seeing on the field. Never happened that way when I played ball across town. I can’t speak for halftime cause naturally we’re not allowed in there. I would love to see more position coaching on the sideline starting this week at AHS but it won’t happen.
 

Deezheelz

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And yes it was extremely disappointing to watch our rather big O-line not be able to fire off the ball and establish any kind of running game against an undersized SP d-line. Very disappointing!
 

patsfball

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Be thankful for good coaching on game night. I hate seeing a team lose due to being under coached.
I have seen my share of coaches that are no more than glorified cheerleaders on Friday nights.
 

Chopper747

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Its interesting to see non coaches advise on how coaches should coach, as if they are supposed to find a way to entertain the fans or interact with the players according to what people in the stands prefer or dictate.
 

RealJaguar01

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Its interesting to see non coaches advise on how coaches should coach, as if they are supposed to find a way to entertain the fans or interact with the players according to what people in the stands prefer or dictate.


I would love to see our coaches interact with players on game night when they come off the field, that's 1 how you learn and 2 how you fix problems...... we dont see that AT ALL
 
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Steelers71

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We take a few minutes after they come off the field to go over any adjustments, discuss what is going on, and then let them hydrate. Coach em up and then support the team.
 

Chopper747

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I would love to see our coaches interact with players on game night when they come off the field, that's 1 how you learn and 2 how you fix problems...... we dont see that AT ALL

yes but a coach is not obligated to coach the way YOU want to SEE things or how YOU think the players learn. All coaches are not the same nor is it for the avg ticket buyer to dictate how a coach does his job. They are not entertainers nor there to do the bidding of parents/fans.

Geez it's like coaches almost have to play politician half the time.
 
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CatholicCougs14

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How many fans watch what the coaches are doing during the game? Do the coaches “coach” when the players come to the sideline? Or do they just watch the game? This is one of the things that drive me crazy! If all the coaches want to watch a game buy a damm ticket!!!! The players are on the field to learn, and they will not get better if they do not learn what they are doing wrong as it is happening. If any coaches want to chime in be my guest.
Lol dude really? Not every coach is going to be saying stuff every play or huddle. As a coach I know I've yielded to our OC in huddles and just observed, noted things to bring up at halftime for adjustments. If a player comes off the sidelines and ask me something then I talk, teach and help, but to say that some coaches that silently watch and take mental notes should be in the stands is ludicrous. What about coaches who are just simply quiet by nature or what if everyone on the team knows who is going to be talking in the huddle on the sideline and that's why they do not speak.
Just because someone does not coach the way you want them to doesn't mean they're a bad coach at all.
 

Deezheelz

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I think some of you are missing the point of what we are saying here. Not saying a coach should be a cheerleader or a rabid fan in the stands. We’re talking about in game coaching where say the o-line coach takes the o-line and talks and asks questions about what the defense is trying to do to us and so forth and coach them up and be ready to make in game adjustments if need be. The OP is saying FV is not getting that from the staff and it shows that they are not.
 

JagsDad

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Interesting comments so far. I know not all coaches are the same. Not all players are the same. I have been watching high school football for over 40 years in Texas and North and South Carolina . I have watched teams that are being coached on the sideline and teams that are basically being ignored by the coaches. The teams that are not being coached on the sidelines are by far inferior teams, or better yet underdogs going into the next series of plays. If you go and watch any game and any team you can just about tell which team will win by watching the coaching staff. I was just wondering what other fans thought. If you take offense to my post, so be it!
 

Greenman12

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Coaching in games and coaching during the week are totally different. During the game is more adjusting the schemes and such while the coaching during the week will involve some work on technique and stuff as well as game preparation. Sometimes the things a coach sees in games can only be corrected during practice. A lot of times you see coaches writing stuff down during games to go over later so at that moment may not be the time to talk to the player about that.
 

Deezheelz

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I played football from 5 yrs old through two yrs of junior college and I never had a staff that didn’t ask my unit what the hell was going on out there and would then make adjustments accordingly in game. C’mon now!
 

frifalcon

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Coaches that you think are just standing on the sideline watching the game are actually trying to focus on what their players are doing out there. Some are verbal during the game and some are just quietly observing their players. I can assure you that when a team wins or loses a game, it is celebrated or mourned by players and coaches alike. If you are in the stands, watch the game. Coaches don't play.............
 

Moparforever

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You know right or wrong coaches need to be communicating with the players that have just come off the field. Talking with the players is key to me sometimes they can see things that coaches don’t see. Communication is huge
IMHO
 

CatholicCougs14

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You know right or wrong coaches need to be communicating with the players that have just come off the field. Talking with the players is key to me sometimes they can see things that coaches don’t see. Communication is huge
IMHO
Communication is huge, yes. However, not every coach needs to talk to every player. Sometimes it's better for one coach to talk to a player, not 4 or 5 different ones. It can cause confusion. Frifalcon brings up a very good point as well.
 

Deezheelz

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Oh I agree, not every coach on staff should be over at the bench talking to the db’s or lb’s or whoever but their position coach should at least make contact with his group for communication and adjustment purposes.
 
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egfan

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Our coaches spend most of their time carrying injured players off of the field!
 

Wolf4Lyfe

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This is sort of the problem we have run into at Lincolnton. In years past we have been good at making adjustments and coaching kids up on the sideline group by group. That hasn't been happening the past two seasons or so. Talent is there but if you got three people telling you different things it confuses the kids and causes them to play slower when they don't know what theyre doing.
 

Muchadoaboutnothin

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Can’t speak for other staffs but, we always had an offensive bench and a defensive bench. Each were even labeled by position where to sit. Your position coach coached you up while they watered up. Great system, till you quickly realize that 3/4 of your defense is your offense and vise versa. I know when I put together a staff I try to vary the coaches personally as much as possible. The staff needs the “rah, rah guy” but also needs the soft spoken “everything is going to be alright guy”. I think “we” all remember how we were coached and remember the face mask grabbing cussing coach. Those days are gone because kids now a days will just quit.
 
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ForestCityMan

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Looking back I loved that face mask grabbing cussing coach. He would make us drive that sled 100 yards up the field and then down the other side.
Also, anybody that stood straight up out of their stance was gonna be bear walking around the field.
 

Wolf4Lyfe

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Looking back I loved that face mask grabbing cussing coach. He would make us drive that sled 100 yards up the field and then down the other side.
Also, anybody that stood straight up out of their stance was gonna be bear walking around the field.
Nowadays you don't really see that because its "too hard". Kids aren't just being taught toughness like they used to. Its frustrating
 
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patsfball

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Looking back I loved that face mask grabbing cussing coach. He would make us drive that sled 100 yards up the field and then down the other side.
Also, anybody that stood straight up out of their stance was gonna be bear walking around the field.
no doubt, lol. And one 2minute water break in a 2.5 hour practice.
 
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I'll play devil's advocate here. From what I remember from a few years back, the OL coach at FV did not gather the OLine on the bench and coach 'em up. Maybe at one time, but not that I remember. What he did do is go to the one or two members of the line who could accurately describe and communicate what was happening. He did not have full group discussions. The discussion may have happened with those one or two far away from the bench, and away from the rest of the O Line. From there, adjustments were made with the coaching staff and individual players. Haven't seen FV play in a couple of years, but that's how I remember things being done with that specific position group.