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They are good every year lol.

The issue with Virginia is the slow pace they play at makes them susceptible to upsets which usually hurts in a one and done tournament.

Umbc had a one in three thousand 3 point shooting game against them last year and they were without hunter. Tough luck
 
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A 16 seed is a 16 seed. There is no excuse for a 1 seed to lose to a 16.

It was always gonna happen at some point been close a number of times and several 15 seeds have knocked off 2. With the three point line in a one and done tourney anything can happen it’s a crapshoot
 

bucsrule8872

Heisman
May 30, 2005
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UVA can never stay healthy.

Seems like they always lose their best player right before the tourney, get a high seed, then get bounced.

They are possibly more snake bitten then we are and that's saying something considering our history of injuries.
 
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know1

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I would take Bennett in a heart beat.

And they don't really play slow. They play such good defense that the opponent's possessions are longer and that keeps the score lower since they don't have the ball as much.

He's been dominant in a great league for several years now, but he has struggled in the tournament.
 

TBCat

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Mar 30, 2007
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Virginia is never going to be the real deal. They can win regular season games but they won't make a final four. Not with their style of play. You can play good defense and it will get you so far but sooner or later you have to be able to win with offense as well. No matter how good your defense is somebody will get hot against you.
 
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darkshadesofblue

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Virginia can definitely go far in the tournament but if they suffer a critical injury of any kind, anything goes. Last two years they’ve had key players out
 
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MakinMusic_rivals

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Virginia will always struggle to win a championship. The style of play is too slow to win a championship. Simply will not happen. Take a look at average scores of all champions over the last 20 years. Virginia can’t get there with Bennett.
 
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Virginia is never going to be the real deal. They can win regular season games but they won't make a final four. Not with their style of play. You can play good defense and it will get you so far but sooner or later you have to be able to win with offense as well. No matter how good your defense is somebody will get hot against you.

Laughable take same garbage we heard about Gonzaga for years they’ll never make a final four
 
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Virginia will always struggle to win a championship. The style of play is too slow to win a championship. Simply will not happen. Take a look at average scores of all champions over the last 20 years. Virginia can’t get there with Bennett.

Yeah let’s crap on Bennett who’s got guys believing in his system which cal doesn’t despite having six times the talent
 
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Not crapping on Bennett at all. Simply laying out the facts of NCAA champions. His current system will not get there.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with his system. Eventually he’s gonna get a job at a bigger basketball school than uva and get better players and the scoring will increase
 

MakinMusic_rivals

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The average fan looking for a new coach is impulsive. The risk with Cal is he’s a solid coach recruiting great players but young and inexperienced. With those guys, he competes for championships regularly. Other solid coaches won’t get the players but may keep guys to upper classmen status. The risk with these coaches is they might get to an elite 8 or final four every 8-10 years. I prefer having a shot every year and maybe a legit shot every 2 or 3. That’s what we have now. Everyone is different.
 

MakinMusic_rivals

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I don’t think there’s anything wrong with his system. Eventually he’s gonna get a job at a bigger basketball school than uva and get better players and the scoring will increase

Maybe but I disagree. His system is simply too slow to play for a championship. If he makes that move, in order to play for a championship, his style of play/system will have to change. The numbers don’t lie.
 
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UVA is rinse and repeat. Great seeding, great defense, but flame out in the tournament. Doesn’t matter if they’re the number 1 overall seed, they have a chance to lose any game if a team shoots well. They just don’t put enough points on the board and never will in Bennet’s system.
 
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know1

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Dec 8, 2002
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The average fan looking for a new coach is impulsive. The risk with Cal is he’s a solid coach recruiting great players but young and inexperienced. With those guys, he competes for championships regularly. Other solid coaches won’t get the players but may keep guys to upper classmen status. The risk with these coaches is they might get to an elite 8 or final four every 8-10 years. I prefer having a shot every year and maybe a legit shot every 2 or 3. That’s what we have now. Everyone is different.

You think we had a shot last year? Or this year? We don't.
 

seccats04

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Dec 6, 2004
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You think we had a shot last year? Or this year? We don't.
Or Ulis' year? This is called a trend and so many fans are too blind to see it. Cal, the used car salesman, gets them every time.
 

kgargus

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Apr 15, 2007
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This Virginia team is better offensively than it seems people are giving them credit for. I think last week they hung a 100 on someone.
 

Aike

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Mar 17, 2002
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I would take Bennett in a heart beat.

And they don't really play slow. They play such good defense that the opponent's possessions are longer and that keeps the score lower since they don't have the ball as much.

He's been dominant in a great league for several years now, but he has struggled in the tournament.

I actually think Bennett would be the best choice, if Cal left suddenly. Anyone who can win multiple ACC titles at Virginia can do even more at Kentucky.

I don’t love the pace, but I think he’d also get better athletes here. His teams also do a good job of generating steals, and better athletes mean more fast break opportunities.

As much as this fan base enjoys winning, I think they would warm to Bennett fairly quickly.
 

mash_24

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Sep 26, 2011
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They do everything right that UK does wrong

That's not really true. They play a very similar pace to what Cal likes. They just usually are doing it with juniors and seniors. They play grinders. That's what Cal likes too. The reason they've not won a title and why Cal has only won one even with all the talent he's had is because it's extremely difficult to win 6 grinders in a row against good competition.
 

darkshadesofblue

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I actually think Bennett would be the best choice, if Cal left suddenly. Anyone who can win multiple ACC titles at Virginia can do even more at Kentucky.

I don’t love the pace, but I think he’d also get better athletes here. His teams also do a good job of generating steals, and better athletes mean more fast break opportunities.

As much as this fan base enjoys winning, I think they would warm to Bennett fairly quickly.
While I think Bennett can be successful here in the long run, ultimately I don’t think our fans would be satisfied with his style of play just like Tubby. It took him over 5 years to establish his system at Virginia. Packline is not something that can be learned in one year, he would not be a good fit here IMO.
 

Aike

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While I think Bennett can be successful here in the long run, ultimately I don’t think our fans would be satisfied with his style of play just like Tubby. It took him over 5 years to establish his system at Virginia. Packline is not something that can be learned in one year, he would not be a good fit here IMO.

If Cal left after this season, what are the options? That’s where I’m coming from.

There isn’t another Cal out there. He’s a force of nature. If you can’t get another Cal, you need to get a steadying influence. Today, that’s Bennett. Hopefully, by the time Cal actually leaves, it’s someone else.
 

know1

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Dec 8, 2002
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While I think Bennett can be successful here in the long run, ultimately I don’t think our fans would be satisfied with his style of play just like Tubby. It took him over 5 years to establish his system at Virginia. Packline is not something that can be learned in one year, he would not be a good fit here IMO.
Our fans would be fine with wins and championships. Style doesn't matter.
 
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Aike

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Our fans would be fine with wins and championships. Style doesn't matter.

To be fair, Bennett hasn’t gotten over the hump yet in the Tournament. But neither has anyone else we might be able to hire.
 
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Also we never know.....I mean with better athletes, it's entirely possible that Bennett plays a different style than what he's currently playing at UVA.
 

know1

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Also we never know.....I mean with better athletes, it's entirely possible that Bennett plays a different style than what he's currently playing at UVA.
No. This is his style. I think he's generally more adaptable than Cal, but he's not going to change much.
 

Pickle_Rick

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You think we had a shot last year? Or this year? We don't.

Damn! I'm glad you're here to let us know not to get our hopes up. But since you are here, what's the winning powerball numbers, Nostrodamus?
 

awf

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May 31, 2006
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TBH even if we played at a slow pace...........no one would care here........so long we were winning lol

This only becomes a topic during losses lol.

This it total horse crap........the reason people hated Tubby was because of the pace his teams played.....