Vanderbilt to remove 'Confederate' from building name

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http://www.tennessean.com/story/new...lt-remove-confederate-building-name/88771680/

[Under the agreement, Vanderbilt will pay $1.2 million, the equivalent of the gift made 83 years ago, to the organization's Tennessee chapter. In exchange, the chapter will relinquish its naming rights to the building.]

Vanderbilt University will repay an 83-year-old donation in order to remove from a residence hall what its leader called "a symbol and a reminder of racism, slavery and a very, very bloody Civil War."

Chancellor Nicholas S. Zeppos made the announcement Monday, capping a 14-year effort to rename Confederate Memorial Hall. The building, which has had that name etched into the stone above its entrance since it opened in 1935, stands in the heart of the university's freshman commons, and has frequently spurred debate about the university's attitude toward an increasingly diverse student body.

In an interview with The Tennessean, Zeppos — who arrived on campus as a law professor in 1987 — said he had long been in favor of changing the building's name.

"It's a symbol that is, for many people, deeply offensive and painful," Zeppos said in the interview. "And to walk past it or to have to live in that space is really something that I just don't think is acceptable."

The United Daughters of the Confederacy originally donated $50,000 in 1933 toward the building’s construction and naming rights in order to honor Confederate soldiers who died during the Civil War.

Vanderbilt previously attempted to rename the building Memorial Hall in 2002, but the Tennessee Division of the United Daughters of the Confederacy sued to keep the original name. A Tennessee appeals court ruled in 2005 that Vanderbilt could remove “Confederate” from the inscription only after it had returned the donation at its current value.

Anonymous donors recently gave the university the $1.2 million needed for that purpose; the Vanderbilt Board of Trust authorized the move this summer.

Doug Jones, the Nashville attorney who represented the Daughters of the Confederacy against Vanderbilt, called the move "a real slam on the history of our country."

“All it was was just a simple monument for the boys in Tennessee that died” in the Civil War, Jones said, adding that the name was not connected with slavery. “We think rewriting history’s just terrible. And I think it’s a very sad day for a school with that kind of reputation to be condoning that."

Universities across the country have faced similar decisions as they re-evaluated the implications of their buildings' names. Students and officials at Middle Tennessee State University in Murfreesboro have spent months pushing to remove the name of Nathan Bedford Forrest, a founder of the Ku Klux Klan, from a campus building. MTSU and the Tennessee Board of Regents approved the change, which now goes before a state panel.

Zeppos flatly rebuffed the criticism that changing the name of a residence hall would compromise the university's approach to its long and complicated history.

"We are not saying this is not part of Vanderbilt's history," he said. "I think we teach history by how we talk about these events.

"I don't think that that (name) was really teaching anyone history."

The longstanding effort to rename the residence hall took on renewed urgency over the past couple of years, as universities across Tennessee and the country grappled with the shadow of racism and slavery on their campuses. At Vanderbilt, founded in 1873 just eight years after the Civil War ended, the name change follows a series of changes made over the past year to address diversity, including the addition of a chief diversity officer to the university's leadership team.

In 2005, Vanderbilt officially began referring to the building as Memorial Hall, although the word Confederate remained on its facade. Students, faculty and high-ranking administrators argued passionately to remove the word at a town hall on the subject last fall.

Ariana Fowler, president of Vanderbilt Student Government, praised the university leadership for the decision to formally rename the residence hall.

“This action demonstrates the administration's attentiveness to student needs and concerns, as well as sets a great precedent for advocating on behalf of those who may feel marginalized on our campus,” Fowler said in the university statement. “This is an excellent next step in the direction of becoming an institution that not only admits diverse students, but ensures their care and support — one who is eager to eliminate any barriers that may stand in the way of such a goal.”

Zeppos said the decision to remove the mention of the Confederacy from the building spoke to the courage of students, faculty and staff who spoke out against it for years.

"I hope that they feel as if they've made a big difference in Vanderbilt and in Vanderbilt's history themselves," he said. "It hopefully says we have listened, we have made changes. But I don't think we should assume that our work is completed in any way."

Crews were already working Monday night to cover the name over the building’s entrance.

Reach Adam Tamburin at 615-726-5986 and on Twitter @tamburintweets.

Vanderbilt University began referring to Confederate Memorial Hall as Memorial Hall in 2005. The year was wrong in an earlier version of this story.
 

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Good.....hate things named after traitors. Confederates no different than Benedict Arnold. Motives may have been different, but actions weren't....
 
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http://www.tennessean.com/story/new...lt-remove-confederate-building-name/88771680/

[Under the agreement, Vanderbilt will pay $1.2 million, the equivalent of the gift made 83 years ago, to the organization's Tennessee chapter. In exchange, the chapter will relinquish its naming rights to the building.]

Vanderbilt University will repay an 83-year-old donation in order to remove from a residence hall what its leader called "a symbol and a reminder of racism, slavery and a very, very bloody Civil War."

Chancellor Nicholas S. Zeppos made the announcement Monday, capping a 14-year effort to rename Confederate Memorial Hall. The building, which has had that name etched into the stone above its entrance since it opened in 1935, stands in the heart of the university's freshman commons, and has frequently spurred debate about the university's attitude toward an increasingly diverse student body.

In an interview with The Tennessean, Zeppos — who arrived on campus as a law professor in 1987 — said he had long been in favor of changing the building's name.

"It's a symbol that is, for many people, deeply offensive and painful," Zeppos said in the interview. "And to walk past it or to have to live in that space is really something that I just don't think is acceptable."

The United Daughters of the Confederacy originally donated $50,000 in 1933 toward the building’s construction and naming rights in order to honor Confederate soldiers who died during the Civil War.

Vanderbilt previously attempted to rename the building Memorial Hall in 2002, but the Tennessee Division of the United Daughters of the Confederacy sued to keep the original name. A Tennessee appeals court ruled in 2005 that Vanderbilt could remove “Confederate” from the inscription only after it had returned the donation at its current value.

Anonymous donors recently gave the university the $1.2 million needed for that purpose; the Vanderbilt Board of Trust authorized the move this summer.

Doug Jones, the Nashville attorney who represented the Daughters of the Confederacy against Vanderbilt, called the move "a real slam on the history of our country."

“All it was was just a simple monument for the boys in Tennessee that died” in the Civil War, Jones said, adding that the name was not connected with slavery. “We think rewriting history’s just terrible. And I think it’s a very sad day for a school with that kind of reputation to be condoning that."

Universities across the country have faced similar decisions as they re-evaluated the implications of their buildings' names. Students and officials at Middle Tennessee State University in Murfreesboro have spent months pushing to remove the name of Nathan Bedford Forrest, a founder of the Ku Klux Klan, from a campus building. MTSU and the Tennessee Board of Regents approved the change, which now goes before a state panel.

Zeppos flatly rebuffed the criticism that changing the name of a residence hall would compromise the university's approach to its long and complicated history.

"We are not saying this is not part of Vanderbilt's history," he said. "I think we teach history by how we talk about these events.

"I don't think that that (name) was really teaching anyone history."

The longstanding effort to rename the residence hall took on renewed urgency over the past couple of years, as universities across Tennessee and the country grappled with the shadow of racism and slavery on their campuses. At Vanderbilt, founded in 1873 just eight years after the Civil War ended, the name change follows a series of changes made over the past year to address diversity, including the addition of a chief diversity officer to the university's leadership team.

In 2005, Vanderbilt officially began referring to the building as Memorial Hall, although the word Confederate remained on its facade. Students, faculty and high-ranking administrators argued passionately to remove the word at a town hall on the subject last fall.

Ariana Fowler, president of Vanderbilt Student Government, praised the university leadership for the decision to formally rename the residence hall.

“This action demonstrates the administration's attentiveness to student needs and concerns, as well as sets a great precedent for advocating on behalf of those who may feel marginalized on our campus,” Fowler said in the university statement. “This is an excellent next step in the direction of becoming an institution that not only admits diverse students, but ensures their care and support — one who is eager to eliminate any barriers that may stand in the way of such a goal.”

Zeppos said the decision to remove the mention of the Confederacy from the building spoke to the courage of students, faculty and staff who spoke out against it for years.

"I hope that they feel as if they've made a big difference in Vanderbilt and in Vanderbilt's history themselves," he said. "It hopefully says we have listened, we have made changes. But I don't think we should assume that our work is completed in any way."

Crews were already working Monday night to cover the name over the building’s entrance.

Reach Adam Tamburin at 615-726-5986 and on Twitter @tamburintweets.

Vanderbilt University began referring to Confederate Memorial Hall as Memorial Hall in 2005. The year was wrong in an earlier version of this story.
Good! Why honor a group of people who hated their country so much that they betrayed it?
 

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They can rename it BLM memorial Hall after another racist, lying group of people.

There's a huge difference.....BLM people aren't declaring their own nation and becoming traitors. Are they racist? Maybe. But good or bad, even racists are American. The southern states who seceded turned traitors.......
 

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There's a huge difference.....BLM people aren't declaring their own nation and becoming traitors. Are they racist? Maybe. But good or bad, even racists are American. The southern states who seceded turned traitors.......

Completely different time since our country was in it's infancy and the north was trying to take away their livelihood. BLM is a completely disingenuous organization. If it were a legitimate organization they would be protesting in Chicago and all inner city areas where they are killing each other and not where there is some make believe cop on black killing. The civil war a was a terrible time in our country, and I am not proud of what we did. What is going on in our inner cities is a direct result of our country's war on poverty that has done nothing but enslave more people than slavery every did. BLM saying they want dead cops now is what? A great uplifting slogan? It is inciting riots. Hands up don't shoot was a downright lie. BLM is nothing more than a gang of thugs.
 

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Completely different time since our country was in it's infancy and the north was trying to take away their livelihood. BLM is a completely disingenuous organization. If it were a legitimate organization they would be protesting in Chicago and all inner city areas where they are killing each other and not where there is some make believe cop on black killing. The civil war a was a terrible time in our country, and I am not proud of what we did. What is going on in our inner cities is a direct result of our country's war on poverty that has done nothing but enslave more people than slavery every did. BLM saying they want dead cops now is what? A great uplifting slogan? It is inciting riots. Hands up don't shoot was a downright lie. BLM is nothing more than a gang of thugs.

A HUGE misrepresentation or comparison. Comparing today's problems to forced bondage.......seriously? Come on, man.
 

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A HUGE misrepresentation or comparison. Comparing today's problems to forced bondage.......seriously? Come on, man.
More people are dependent on that govt check than were ever in slavery. What has the Great Society brought us? A bunch of dependent people who now think they've been disenfranchised by not having a job but not looking at what that govt check has brought to them. No motivation to do better. Hey, grandparents rioted, my parents rioted and now I'm going to riot and steal some stuff. I wonder why work boots are never taken when shoe stores are looted? Let's go hang out on the corner and wait on that $35,000 job to find me.
 

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More people are dependent on that govt check than were ever in slavery. What has the Great Society brought us? A bunch of dependent people who now think they've been disenfranchised by not having a job but not looking at what that govt check has brought to them. No motivation to do better. Hey, grandparents rioted, my parents rioted and now I'm going to riot and steal some stuff. I wonder why work boots are never taken when shoe stores are looted? Let's go hang out on the corner and wait on that $35,000 job to find me.

And you think that's the equivalent to forced bondage, rapes, murders, whipping, hangings, lynchings, being sold away from your family, etc etc etc.????
 

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And you think that's the equivalent to forced bondage, rapes, murders, whipping, hangings, lynchings, being sold away from your family, etc etc etc.????

addicted to dope, no job, sitting around getting into trouble, running drugs and then shot to death. You are right, it's not equivalent. They knew slavery was bad, they've been fooled by you libs into thinking that the great society was good for them.By the way, their own people sold them into slavery, not white people. Still being done to this day in many places in the world. Just so you know, I hate what we did to them. There was no excuse. What has happened since, has been bad, too. Government programs like the GS has been a detriment to society and we are now reaping the problems of those programs. Both white and black have suffered from free stuff. When something is free, it has no value. When you work and aquire things they become valuable. You aren't as likely to go burn your own **** down.
 

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addicted to dope, no job, sitting around getting into trouble, running drugs and then shot to death. You are right, it's not equivalent. They knew slavery was bad, they've been fooled by you libs into thinking that the great society was good for them.By the way, their own people sold them into slavery, not white people. Still being done to this day in many places in the world. Just so you know, I hate what we did to them. There was no excuse. What has happened since, has been bad, too. Government programs like the GS has been a detriment to society and we are now reaping the problems of those programs. Both white and black have suffered from free stuff. When something is free, it has no value. When you work and aquire things they become valuable. You aren't as likely to go burn your own **** down.

You do realize that the "slave trade" ended a LONG time ago? When the slave trade was banned in the United States (the year 1807; part of the compromises at the Constitutional Convention), it was the WHITES who would sell their American slaves, which was legal since technically they were not engaging in a "trade" of free people from other continents.....

So this entire defense of "Africans sold Africans" is not valid.......

And, sorry, but comparing this to slavery is bad and wrong. I respect you, and will refrain from making this personal, but this is way wrong to compare it to slavery. The numbers in 1860 say that only 11% of the African-Americans in the United States were "free". So, if you can prove that 89% of today's African-American population is "addicted to dope, no job, sitting around getting into trouble, running drugs and then shot to death", then you may have an argument. Sorry.
 

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You do realize that the "slave trade" ended a LONG time ago? When the slave trade was banned in the United States (the year 1807; part of the compromises at the Constitutional Convention), it was the WHITES who would sell their American slaves, which was legal since technically they were not engaging in a "trade" of free people from other continents.....

So this entire defense of "Africans sold Africans" is not valid.......

And, sorry, but comparing this to slavery is bad and wrong. I respect you, and will refrain from making this personal, but this is way wrong to compare it to slavery. The numbers in 1860 say that only 11% of the African-Americans in the United States were "free". So, if you can prove that 89% of today's African-American population is "addicted to dope, no job, sitting around getting into trouble, running drugs and then shot to death", then you may have an argument. Sorry.

I said more now, I was referring to numbers not %. African rounded up Africans and brought them to the slave trading ports. Are you saying that people aren't being enslaved now? It still happens and I was referring to places around the world not here. If you are going to defend govt giveaways, get ready for more Fergusons, Baltimores and Milwaukees. These cities have been run by democrats forever and they have proven that their approach has done nothing for the inner cities but making things worse. Tell me, what future do inner city kids have right now?
 

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You do realize that the "slave trade" ended a LONG time ago? When the slave trade was banned in the United States (the year 1807; part of the compromises at the Constitutional Convention), it was the WHITES who would sell their American slaves, which was legal since technically they were not engaging in a "trade" of free people from other continents.....

So this entire defense of "Africans sold Africans" is not valid.......

And, sorry, but comparing this to slavery is bad and wrong. I respect you, and will refrain from making this personal, but this is way wrong to compare it to slavery. The numbers in 1860 say that only 11% of the African-Americans in the United States were "free". So, if you can prove that 89% of today's African-American population is "addicted to dope, no job, sitting around getting into trouble, running drugs and then shot to death", then you may have an argument. Sorry.

So you know, I have always hated slavery and what it did. Our founding fathers struggled with it. They knew they needed the southern states to win independence and slavery was important to the south. They made a deal with the devil to defeat the british. We made the same deal with stalin in WW2. Of all the things wrong in our country, slavery was the one thing that I am most ashamed of. Some of my "statements" are hyperbole. While there were more slaves in 1850, there are still over 850,000 blacks in prison. It is a damn shame.