Good read but heres a quote many of you will be interested in:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-state-enjoys-surprise-run-to-omaha/36029807/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-state-enjoys-surprise-run-to-omaha/36029807/
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Whatever Cohen does it will require some form of co-operation from Henderson so it won't turn into a huge PR nightmare. Right now national perception, and by that I mean national talking heads and folks who don't bleed maroon, is that Henderson has earned the job. Anyone who listened to the commentators during the Super Regional heard this commentary. So if Cohen wants to replace Henderson at seasons end, Henderson will need to issue a statement along the lines of "I'm flattered by the offer of the HC job but it's not what I want to do right now. I'm thrilled to remain as a position coach and will work with the new coach to make Mississippi State Baseball the best in the land" or something similar. If Cohen names [insert your favorite candidate not named Henderson here] as head coach and Henderson says "Gee I was hoping I'd get the job" or something similar it will be a PR disaster. National media will rake Cohen over the coals. Our opponents WILL use this against us in recruiting.
This is the tight rope IB is walking right now. And this is also why we pay him the big $$.
This thing will have to be done diplomatically AND with the co-operation of all parties in order to not turn into a huge PR cluster 17.
Otherwise Karma will get her revenge on us somewhere down the road...
This is the tight rope IB is walking right now. And this is also why we pay him the big $$.
This thing will have to be done diplomatically AND with the co-operation of all parties in order to not turn into a huge PR cluster 17.
Otherwise Karma will get her revenge on us somewhere down the road...
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The absolute best scenario for MSU at this point is for Henderson to remain for next year and then retire. We have a good team coming back that could be a national seed and have a chance to get back to Omaha. The players have bought in to Henderson and a one year agreement and a chance to "retire on top" is the best thing that can happen for everyone.
We've had a great season. Even if we go 0-2 this week, we've had a great season. But Gary Henderson is not the long term choice for MSU baseball. Logic over emotion, people.
We've had a great season. Even if we go 0-2 this week, we've had a great season. But Gary Henderson is not the long term choice for MSU baseball. Logic over emotion, people.
It’s a dang hot mess is what it is. How do you keep Hendo and Gautrea as position coaches but hire a new head coach? What kind of head coach doesn’t want to hire his own staff? Also would it demoralize the players if they think Hendo got pushed out? They obviously respect him and have responded to him.
The whole thing is kind of a mess when you think about it. Hendo is campaigning for the job no doubt. Did y’all hear him say how proud he was to be the head coach at MSU during a press conference after one of our recent games?
My first choice would be an up and comer that’s younger, but, for the sake of keeping the staff together, I feel like Hendo would be best for a trial run. You either disrupt the staff and sacrifice Gautrea or get Hendo as a head coach. What’s worse? There is a trade off either way, and Cohen will be rolling the dice.
The whole thing is kind of a mess when you think about it. Hendo is campaigning for the job no doubt. Did y’all hear him say how proud he was to be the head coach at MSU during a press conference after one of our recent games?
My first choice would be an up and comer that’s younger, but, for the sake of keeping the staff together, I feel like Hendo would be best for a trial run. You either disrupt the staff and sacrifice Gautrea or get Hendo as a head coach. What’s worse? There is a trade off either way, and Cohen will be rolling the dice.
At this point Cohen is taking a bigger and bigger risk by NOT keeping Henderson on as HC than by replacing him with the Next Big Thing.
"Hey John, did you really drop the reigning National Coach of the Year and replace him with Johnny Hotstuff x number of years ago? Seeing as you haven't been back to Omaha since that 2018 season how would you say that's working out?"
"Hey John, did you really drop the reigning National Coach of the Year and replace him with Johnny Hotstuff x number of years ago? Seeing as you haven't been back to Omaha since that 2018 season how would you say that's working out?"
The other aspect of this is that Cohen’s career probably cannot afford a flop right here. A former baseball coach of 20+ years whiffing on two straight baseball coaching hires would not be good for him. He knows that. Thats why I think you see either a big name proven guy (not likely), or whoever Cohen prefers between Butch and Henderson. Honestly speaking, its a pretty high floor for both of those guys, even if neither gets us to “hosting every year” status.
Best scenario has to be winning the whole freaking thing this year and Gary riding off into the sunset.
Did anybody read the article Ross Dellenger just put out about our season? Some stuff confirmed about Cannizzaro. Henderson flat out states he and his staff want to stay. Quotes from players and coaches. Apparently, Cannizaro was overwhelmed and addicted to his phone and neglected to coach. A lot of good stuff to read.
Damn that's a great article. Here's the juicy stuff about Cannizaro.
The reasons behind Andy Cannizaro’s bizarre end go well beyond the one publicized at the time of his ouster: an extramarital affair with a Mississippi State employee.
Those close to the program describe a 39-year-old man, overwhelmed with the job, who developed an obsession: his phone. They point to his stream of boastful posts on Twitter: a muscle-bound Cannizaro lifting in the school’s weight room.
Can a man’s fall from grace really center around him texting and tweeting? Those here say it was a significant part of a disconnect that grew between he and everyone else within the program. Some describe it as a phobia that resulted in disorganization, a sloppy team whose players admit that they were neither ready nor prepared for the season.
The case against Cannizaro mounted, and rumblings from those on and around the team trickled to athletic director and former baseball coach John Cohen. Things came to fruition after that first weekend—an 0–3 outing in a three-game series at Southern Miss—when disturbing details from the dugout emerged: a head coach buried in his phone while his squad played a game 15 feet away.
A person close to Cannizaro defended the coach on the accusations: “There are two sides to every story,” the person said. Cannizaro, a burly former eight-year professional player, politely declined comment in a text message. He hasn’t necessarily gone into hiding. He remains in Starkville. In fact, residents spot him around the town often—at the gym, a restaurant, a stop sign.
In a telling truth, staff members and players say no one has spoken to Cannizaro since his departure. The same goes for Cohen, the man who, after being elevated to athletic director, hired Cannizaro to replace him in November 2016.
The reasons behind Andy Cannizaro’s bizarre end go well beyond the one publicized at the time of his ouster: an extramarital affair with a Mississippi State employee.
Those close to the program describe a 39-year-old man, overwhelmed with the job, who developed an obsession: his phone. They point to his stream of boastful posts on Twitter: a muscle-bound Cannizaro lifting in the school’s weight room.
Can a man’s fall from grace really center around him texting and tweeting? Those here say it was a significant part of a disconnect that grew between he and everyone else within the program. Some describe it as a phobia that resulted in disorganization, a sloppy team whose players admit that they were neither ready nor prepared for the season.
The case against Cannizaro mounted, and rumblings from those on and around the team trickled to athletic director and former baseball coach John Cohen. Things came to fruition after that first weekend—an 0–3 outing in a three-game series at Southern Miss—when disturbing details from the dugout emerged: a head coach buried in his phone while his squad played a game 15 feet away.
A person close to Cannizaro defended the coach on the accusations: “There are two sides to every story,” the person said. Cannizaro, a burly former eight-year professional player, politely declined comment in a text message. He hasn’t necessarily gone into hiding. He remains in Starkville. In fact, residents spot him around the town often—at the gym, a restaurant, a stop sign.
In a telling truth, staff members and players say no one has spoken to Cannizaro since his departure. The same goes for Cohen, the man who, after being elevated to athletic director, hired Cannizaro to replace him in November 2016.
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I remember telling a friend before spring practice started that all this social media crap he put out was fine in the off season, but it needed to stop when practice started. Obviously, it never did. He was posting pictures from practice as he stood on the field during scrimmages. I guess that was far from the worst of it.
My question is why did we have to make the CWS for this to come out?
My question is why did we have to make the CWS for this to come out?
Actually it was firing a coach in the middle of a season and then missing out on the guy(s) they really wanted. Alleva thought he had a deal done but nope.
He tried to retire just two years ago when Cohen talked him out of retirement to become our pitching coach.
I do not understand how someone gets that distracted to the point where they can not function at work. I probably never will.
I'm not psychologist but I believe Andy's phone and the attention it generated for him became an addition. When you're obsessed with how you look and you put so much personal media out there for people to see, you're do it for a reason. You're doing it because it makes you feel good that people are commenting on what you've put out there. You're always wanting to see what the next person is saying about what you benched that morning or that they saw you shooting hoops or giving a pep talk to the girls basketball team. Every time he got a reply on his phone - his brain released a shot of dopamine and it made him feel good. This also happens when you're running around doing something you know your not supposed to be doing like sleeping with someone in the Athletic Dept.
ETA: If Andy really felt overwhelmed with the job - it would make sense that he'd do something that made him feel good and that thing was his phone and the connections and hookups it generated for him.
Really no different from someone that has a drug addiction.
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Neither ready nor prepared?? That's some Pulitzer Prize level writing. This guy must get paid by the word.
Maybe this kind of stuff is cumulative b/c
...it seemed obvious is his first season that the job wasn't over his head at all. The thing is, he not only sabotaged his career but he probably came damn close to sabotaging his marriage and family life.
...it seemed obvious is his first season that the job wasn't over his head at all. The thing is, he not only sabotaged his career but he probably came damn close to sabotaging his marriage and family life.
See also "[FONT="]Those here say it was a significant part of a disconnect that grew between he and everyone else within the program." Between he? Ugh.[/FONT]